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trying to reload win98 from boot disk

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Norm - 20 Feb 2005 21:39 GMT
After uninstalling Norton Internet Security, Windows 98SE would not reboot.  
It gave me the error "Fatal exception 0D occured at 16A7:000014E3.  Press any
key to continue."  Pressing any key causes the computer to hang (black
screen).  I rebooted using the Win98 boot disk that allows access to a
CD-ROM.  When I type "setup" to re-install Win98, I get the error message:
"Windows setup requires 'largest excecutable program size'to be at least
442,368 bytes to run."  I have rebooted and reinstalled before and never
encountered this.  Microsoft support has no articles for troubleshooting
either problem.  HELP!!

Norm
John John - 20 Feb 2005 21:56 GMT
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B289727

John

> After uninstalling Norton Internet Security, Windows 98SE would not reboot.  
> It gave me the error "Fatal exception 0D occured at 16A7:000014E3.  Press any
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> Norm
Norm - 21 Feb 2005 18:03 GMT
Thanks, John John.

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B289727
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> > Norm
John John - 21 Feb 2005 20:07 GMT
You're welcome.

John

> Thanks, John John.
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Norm - 25 Feb 2005 14:49 GMT
John John,
I tried your suggested solution (from the Microsoft document) and it did not
work.  I cannot run scandisk from the win98 boot disk.  I get an error
message to the effect that there is insufficient conventional memory to run
scandisk and that I should try to load some drivers into high memory.  The
only drivers loaded are the CD-ROM drivers from the boot disk.  I wouldn't
know how to load a driver into high memory anyway.  I tried to run setup from
the CD-ROM and, after "xcopying" the whole disk to a folder on my hard drive,
from the hard drive using the "/is" suffix but I got the same original error
message that I referred to in my original posting.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
John John - 25 Feb 2005 15:28 GMT
I'll have to reread the thread and refresh my memory.  In the meantime
look at this:

How to Increase Conventional Memory for MS-DOS-Based Programs
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;134399

A quick try would be using REM to not load (or unload) the CD-ROM
drivers in the Autoexec.bat file.  Open the file with edit (edit
a:\autoexec.bat) and find the line that has MSCDEX and at the begining
of the line add REM .   Note that there is a space after REM.  It will
look something like this when done:

REM whatevertext.....\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001

Save the file, reboot the pc and try again.

That by itself should free up quite a bit of conventional memory.

To boot the pc with the same boot disk and regain CR-ROM support re-edit
the file and undo the REM changes after you're done.

John

> John John,
> I tried your suggested solution (from the Microsoft document) and it did not
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> message that I referred to in my original posting.  Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
Mikhail Zhilin - 25 Feb 2005 17:00 GMT
> there is insufficient conventional memory to run scandisk

This message has nothing with the drivers loaded in memory. And you
can't do anything with it -- if not to rebuild the drive in whole.

See:
"Your Computer Does Not Have Enough Free Memory to Defrag the Drive"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q229154

(Scandisk is mentioned there, too -- because of the same reason).
--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
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>John John,
>I tried your suggested solution (from the Microsoft document) and it did not
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>message that I referred to in my original posting.  Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.
John John - 25 Feb 2005 17:25 GMT
Ahah!  Yes indeed, and now that I have reread the thread the original
problem points to some of the same causes:

•  The amount of space on the hard disk has been reported incorrectly.
•  You installed drive overlay software, but you did not follow the
correct installation sequence. For example, you may have to press the
SHIFT key or use a similar keystroke combination to start your computer
when you use a disk.

Thanks for picking up on it.  The drive overlay software seems to be the
constant in the errors.  At this juncture rebuilding the drive might be
the only viable option.  Good catch, thanks again Mikhail.

John

>>there is insufficient conventional memory to run scandisk
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>>message that I referred to in my original posting.  Any help would be greatly
>>appreciated.
 
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