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Boone - 11 Jun 2005 02:17 GMT
Hi, please help I am having a problem I have never seen before.

The Problem:
Whenever the PC starts it launches the Win98 Set up Wizard that asks you
your name, company name, and product key code. (I've not entered the info as
I'm not sure what it will do to the existing files.) When I hit Cancel the PC
says it can not launch Windows and shuts down. This PC has worked for years.

What has changes/happened:
I have a win98 PC and was trying to install an upgrade to Norton Internet
Security 2005. It waned me that Norton Antivirus was installed and said that
that had to be removed through Add/Remove Programs before installing. I
uninstalled NAV 2001 through the control panel. When it warned about deleting
shared files, I said to leave all on the PC. After the uninstall, the PC
needed to reboot. After the reboot, when the PC powers up instead of
displaying the Windows logon box asking for User and Password, it launches  a
wizard that says it's the Win98 Set-up Utility and asks for name, company,
and Product Key Code. I have not completed the wizard because (1) it should
not be launched and (2) I'm not sure what it's going to do to the files
already on the PC.

Additional Information:
The PC will load in Safe Mode and all user and program files that I can
identify seem to be present. But. obviously something has been deleted or
corrupted. The question is what?

Question:
What should I do to fix this so that when Win98 launches it will not think
it needs to run set-up, but just allow my user to login and use their PC.

Thanks.

- Andrew
glee - 11 Jun 2005 04:31 GMT
Start in Safe Mode.
Click Start>Run, type   MSINFO32   and click OK.
In the left pane of the System Information window, click the + sign to expand the
"Software Environment" category.
In the left pane, click to select "Startup Programs"....they will appear in a list
on the right.
Press Ctrl-A on the keyboard, which will highlight everything in the list on the
right.
Press Ctrl-C to copy the list to the 'clipboard'.
Open a reply to this message, click in the body of the message and press Ctrl-V to
paste the list from the clipboard to the message, and post back to this thread.
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> Hi, please help I am having a problem I have never seen before.
>
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>
> - Andrew
Boone - 11 Jun 2005 18:34 GMT
Thank you for your post. Here is the information you requested. Any help is
greatly appreciated.

- Andrew

MSInfo32: Software Environment->Startup Program log

Office Startup    Startup Group    "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office\OSA.EXE" -b
Refresh    Startup Group    "C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\refresh.exe"
Iomega Watch    Startup Group    "C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IOWATCH.EXE"
Iomega Startup Options    Startup Group    "C:\Program
Files\Iomega\Tools\IMGSTART.EXE"
Iomega Disk Icons    Startup Group    "C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IMGICON.exe"
PowerReg Scheduler    Startup Group    C:\WINDOWS\Start
Menu\Programs\StartUp\PowerReg Scheduler.exe
ScanRegistry    Registry (Machine Run)    C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun
SystemTray    Registry (Machine Run)    SysTray.Exe
Multi-function Keyboard    Registry (Machine Run)    GWHotKey.exe
IntruderAlert    Registry (Machine Run)    C:\Program Files\Intruder Alert
99\ia99.exe /M
TaskMonitor    Registry (Machine Run)    C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
LoadPowerProfile    Registry (Machine Run)    Rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
StillImageMonitor    Registry (Machine Run)    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
CriticalUpdate    Registry (Machine Run)    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe -startup
EnsoniqMixer    Registry (Machine Run)    starter.exe
LoadPowerProfile    Registry (Machine Service)    Rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
Vshwin32EXE    Registry (Machine Service)    C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETWORK
ASSOCIATES\MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN\VSHWIN32.EXE
KB891711    Registry (Machine Service)    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
SchedulingAgent    Registry (Machine Service)    mstask.exe

> Start in Safe Mode.
> Click Start>Run, type   MSINFO32   and click OK.
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> >
> > - Andrew
glee - 12 Jun 2005 03:03 GMT
Back up the Registry:
Click Start> Run, type   scanregw  and click OK.
When it asks if you want to back up, say yes.

Open the Registry Editor (Start>Run>Regedit).
Navigate to, and select, each of these keys in the left pane of the regedit window:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Setup
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx

If there is any data in the right pane of any of these keys, other than "Default",
post back with what it says.

Also, have a look in the Win.ini file for anything in the load= and run= lines
(Start> Run> msconfig> Win.ini
tab> expand the Windows heading at top).  Anything there?

BTW, not likely related to your current problem, but IntruderAlert is listed as
spyware....you should uninstall it.
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> Thank you for your post. Here is the information you requested. Any help is
> greatly appreciated.
[quoted text clipped - 74 lines]
> > >
> > > - Andrew
Boone - 12 Jun 2005 03:59 GMT
Glen,

Thanks for your quick reply. I can tell you now that there's nothing in the
win.ini file. The rest I have to check out tomorrow and post back.

Thanks re: intruder alert. It's already on my list of things to fix. Somehow
I got tasked with cleaning up a friends PC; as always when you start into
cleaning up a PC that is used but not maintained the to do list is LONG.
Getting a good version of NIS running was one of the first.... and I got this
headache!

I'll post back with my results from the rest of your suggestions tomorrow.
Thanks for all your help have a good night.

- Andrew

> Back up the Registry:
> Click Start> Run, type   scanregw  and click OK.
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> > > >
> > > > - Andrew
Boone - 13 Jun 2005 02:52 GMT
Glen,

I response to your suggestions/questions:

1. scanregw did not find any errors, and I did the back-up as you suggested.

2. All the Reg Keys said "Default" in the right pane EXCEPT for:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Setup
Which was missing entirely.

3. The win.ini file had one line "load=" and that was it, just "load="

I hope this helps and look forward to your suggestions. Thank you for all
your help.

- Andrew

> Back up the Registry:
> Click Start> Run, type   scanregw  and click OK.
[quoted text clipped - 98 lines]
> > > >
> > > > - Andrew
glee - 13 Jun 2005 05:36 GMT
Start msconfig from the Run dialog, click Selective Startup, then see if "Process
Winstart.bat file" entry is greyed out or not.  If it is not greyed out, then the
file exists, and you need to uncheck it, click OK and restart.  Then see if the
Setup prompt still occurs in normal mode.
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> Glen,
>
[quoted text clipped - 115 lines]
> > > > >
> > > > > - Andrew
glee - 13 Jun 2005 21:08 GMT
Andrew,
Don't give up yet....let us know if you have a Winstart.bat
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Boone - 14 Jun 2005 03:11 GMT
Thank you for all your support and suggestions. I haven't given up.

The winstart.bat option was already grayed out and a search of the hard
drive did not come up with anything.

I also went back and srubbed all traces of Notron and IntruderAlert while I
was at it.

Still having the same problem with booting up. Any other suggestions? Thanks.

- Andrew

> Andrew,
> Don't give up yet....let us know if you have a Winstart.bat
glee - 14 Jun 2005 03:52 GMT
See if you can avoid the Setup Wizard at startup by doing a Clean Boot:
How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926
"CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

Post back with your results.  I am not sure at this point what is causing the Setup
Wizard to be called up at startup.  :-\  Still looking into that.....

For good measure, download and install this Windows update, even though it was
probably already installed once:
Windows Script 5.6 for Windows 98, Windows Millennium Edition, and Windows NT 4.0:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A8A18F6-249C-4A72-BFCF
-FC6AF26DC390&displaylang=en

It often breaks and causes troubles, especially when Symantec products are involved.

Also, from Safe Mode (not the clean boot), after uninstalling all Symantec products
through Add\Remove Programs, run the removal tool or tools they provide, based on
which programs you installed and which were upgraded from what version (confusing,
eh?):

Removing your Norton program using SymNRT: (this is for removing NIS2005)
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039?Open&s
rc=&docid=2001092114452606&nsf=nav.nsf&view=docid&dtype=&prod=&ver=&osv=&osv_lvl
=

Removing Norton AntiVirus 2003 or earlier by using the Rnav2003.exe removal utility
when Add/Remove programs fails: (this is to remove traces of the earlier version of
NAV)
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2001092114452606

<quote>
If you have a 2004 or 2005 Norton program and a 2003 Norton program and removing the
programs using Add/Remove Programs fails, then uninstall the 2005 first by reading
the document for your version and program listed in the References field. When the
2005 product has been removed, then follow the steps in this document to run the
Rnav2003.exe removal tool and remove the 2003 program
</quote>

You would first run SymNRT, then Rnav2003.
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> Thank you for all your support and suggestions. I haven't given up.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> > Andrew,
> > Don't give up yet....let us know if you have a Winstart.bat
Boone - 14 Jun 2005 22:41 GMT
Glen,

Thanks for the suggestions. In response:

I was not able to do do a clean boot (I still got routed to the Win98 set-up
wizard). After being routed to the set-up wizard and cancelling (which shut
down the PC), I restarted in Safe Mode to see what if anything happened. Even
though I had disabled Start-up Items in msconfig before attempting the clean
boot the following were checked after the attempt:

EnsoniqMixer (Sound card related, I think)
Office Startup
Refresh
Iomega Watch
Iomega Startup Options
Iomega Disk Icons
PowerReg Scheduler

Just wanted to confirm that this is alright.

Since I can't boot in anything other than Safe Mode, I'm not sure how I
would download and install the patch you suggest.

I have already used Rnav2003 to scrub the remnants of NAV 2001 from the
system. The boot problem was the result of trying to uninstall NAV 2001
through   Control Panel>Add/Remove Programs. It started immediately after the
restart that was part of this process. I never got to installing NIS 2005.
There are no other Symantec products on this PC.

Some time back you asked about Reg Keys. I replied that the following was
missing:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Setup
Is this an alright state?

Thanks for your help. All suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Andrew

> See if you can avoid the Setup Wizard at startup by doing a Clean Boot:
> How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> > > Andrew,
> > > Don't give up yet....let us know if you have a Winstart.bat
glee - 15 Jun 2005 04:39 GMT
> Glen,
>
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>
> EnsoniqMixer (Sound card related, I think)

Yes, that's the sound card utility for volume and so forth.

> Office Startup
> Refresh
> Iomega Watch
> Iomega Startup Options
> Iomega Disk Icons
> PowerReg Scheduler

I don't understand why any of these are re-enabling themselves...they should not be.
All of them are shortcuts in the StartUp folder (Start Menu> Programs>
StartUp).....drag the shortcuts out of that folder and drop them on the Desktop for
now, and restart in Safe Mode.  They should not re-enable themselves.  Post back
with the results.

> Just wanted to confirm that this is alright.
>
> Since I can't boot in anything other than Safe Mode, I'm not sure how I
> would download and install the patch you suggest.

<sigh> yeah.......although you could download it on another computer and burn it to
a CD to bring to the afflicted machine.

> I have already used Rnav2003 to scrub the remnants of NAV 2001 from the
> system. The boot problem was the result of trying to uninstall NAV 2001
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Setup
> Is this an alright state?

Yes, that key does not exist on my machine either.

> Thanks for your help. All suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Still thinking....been really busy, but hang in there.
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> > See if you can avoid the Setup Wizard at startup by doing a Clean Boot:
> > How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> > probably already installed once:
> > Windows Script 5.6 for Windows 98, Windows Millennium Edition, and Windows NT 4.0:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A8A18F6-249C-4A72-BFCF
-FC6AF26DC390&displaylang=en

> > It often breaks and causes troubles, especially when Symantec products are involved.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> >
> > Removing your Norton program using SymNRT: (this is for removing NIS2005)

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039?Open&s
rc=&docid=2001092114452606&nsf=nav.nsf&view=docid&dtype=∏=&ver=&osv=&osv_lvl
=

> > Removing Norton AntiVirus 2003 or earlier by using the Rnav2003.exe removal utility
> > when Add/Remove programs fails: (this is to remove traces of the earlier version of
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> > > > Andrew,
> > > > Don't give up yet....let us know if you have a Winstart.bat
Boone - 15 Jun 2005 22:38 GMT
Glen,

just thought I'd let you know that dragging the items from the starup folder
prevented  them from re-enabling themselves. The only item that was not in
the star-up folder was EnsoniqMixer, this did re-enable itself eventhough I
had disabled it in msconfig.

I look forward to your suggestion. Thanks.

Andrew

I don't understand why any of these are re-enabling themselves...they
should not be.
All of them are shortcuts in the StartUp folder (Start Menu> Programs>
StartUp).....drag the shortcuts out of that folder and drop them on the
Desktop for
now, and restart in Safe Mode.  They should not re-enable themselves.  Post
back
with the results.
glee - 16 Jun 2005 09:03 GMT
...and when you attempt the clean boot, you open msconfig, on the General tab click
Selective Startup, and uncheck these items:
Process config.sys
Process autoexec.bat
Process Winstart.bat (if it is not greyed)
Load Startup group items
Click OK, then restart
and you still get the Setup Wizard upon restarting....correct?
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> Glen,
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> back
> with the results.
Boone - 17 Jun 2005 00:36 GMT
Glen,

That is correct. The only items checked in msconfg are:
system.ini
win.ini

Startup itms is not checked, though it is partially selected after
attempting to boot the PC as Ensoniqmixer auto-enables itself.

- Andrew

> ....and when you attempt the clean boot, you open msconfig, on the General tab click
> Selective Startup, and uncheck these items:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> > back
> > with the results.
glee - 17 Jun 2005 03:50 GMT
See if you can get rid of the Symantec installer information by using the Windows
Installer Cleanup Utility:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290301

"  The Windows Installer CleanUp Utility does not:
• Remove Windows Installer.
• Remove files of any programs that are installed by Windows Installer,
such as Microsoft Office 2003.

The Windows Installer CleanUp Utility does:
• Provide a dialog box where you can select one or more programs that
were installed by Windows Installer. You select the programs on the
Installed Products list in the Windows Installer CleanUp dialog box.
After you make this selection, the utility removes only the Windows
Installer configuration information that is related to those programs.
• Remove the files and registry settings that make up the Windows
Installer configuration information for programs that you select.
If you use this utility to remove the Windows Installer configuration
information for your program and you plan to reinstall the program, you
should reinstall the program in the same folder where you originally
installed it. This prevents duplication of files on your hard disk or
disks.  "

The Setup Wizard may be appearing due to corrupted or damaged files in the
WINDOWS\Installer folder.
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> Glen,
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> > > back
> > > with the results.
Boone - 17 Jun 2005 18:08 GMT
Glen,

Thanks for the suggestion.

In Safe Mode I installed Installer Cleanup, and ran it from
Start>Programs>MS Installer Cleanup. The only items listed were:
Installer Cleanup
XML Parser & SDK

So, I was unable to clean any additional Program Installation info.

Ideas? Thanks.

Andrew

> See if you can get rid of the Symantec installer information by using the Windows
> Installer Cleanup Utility:
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> The Setup Wizard may be appearing due to corrupted or damaged files in the
> WINDOWS\Installer folder.
glee - 17 Jun 2005 19:57 GMT
The patch I suggested reinstalling is only 665 KB....download it on another
computer, copy it to a floppy, and transport it to the problem computer, then
reinstall it there.

Windows Script 5.6 for Windows 98, Windows Millennium Edition, and Windows NT 4.0:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A8A18F6-249C-4A72-BFCF
-FC6AF26DC390&displaylang=en

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> Glen,
>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> > The Setup Wizard may be appearing due to corrupted or damaged files in the
> > WINDOWS\Installer folder.
Boone - 18 Jun 2005 08:00 GMT
Done. Sorry to say, it had no effect. Ideas? Thanks.

Andrew

> The patch I suggested reinstalling is only 665 KB....download it on another
> computer, copy it to a floppy, and transport it to the problem computer, then
> reinstall it there.
>
> Windows Script 5.6 for Windows 98, Windows Millennium Edition, and Windows NT 4.0:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A8A18F6-249C-4A72-BFCF
-FC6AF26DC390&displaylang=en
glee - 19 Jun 2005 04:51 GMT
Actually, I thought the setup wizard's appearance might be something more common
that it is, apparently, as I ran your problem by some other MVP's and the previous
suggestions came in part from their input.  I will wait for your responses to Ben's
and Bill's suggestions, and see if anything show up there.  Barring that, you may
simply want to bite the bullet and complete the wizard.....it is quite possible that
nothing will be changed on the system when it's done.
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> Done. Sorry to say, it had no effect. Ideas? Thanks.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >
> > Windows Script 5.6 for Windows 98, Windows Millennium Edition, and Windows NT 4.0:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A8A18F6-249C-4A72-BFCF
-FC6AF26DC390&displaylang=en

Boone - 21 Jun 2005 04:03 GMT
Glen,

Got it! Thank you so much for all your help. See my reply to Bill's post
below if you want more info. You were a great help and I really appreciate
the time you spent on this.

Andrew

> Actually, I thought the setup wizard's appearance might be something more common
> that it is, apparently, as I ran your problem by some other MVP's and the previous
> suggestions came in part from their input.  I will wait for your responses to Ben's
> and Bill's suggestions, and see if anything show up there.  Barring that, you may
> simply want to bite the bullet and complete the wizard.....it is quite possible that
> nothing will be changed on the system when it's done.
Boone - 21 Jun 2005 04:09 GMT
Sorry my reply to Ben's post.

- Andrew

> Glen,
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> > simply want to bite the bullet and complete the wizard.....it is quite possible that
> > nothing will be changed on the system when it's done.
glee - 21 Jun 2005 12:15 GMT
Glad to hear it.  Yes, restoring a previous registry would be the logical next step
, as Ben suggested.  I am glad it worked for you.
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> Sorry my reply to Ben's post.
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> > > simply want to bite the bullet and complete the wizard.....it is quite possible that
> > > nothing will be changed on the system when it's done.
Bill Watt - 14 Jun 2005 06:42 GMT
If you still have the problem try deleting all temporary files in
the C:\Temp and C:\Windows\temp folders.

Regards,

Bill Watt  
Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
____________________________________________________

>Thank you for all your support and suggestions. I haven't given up.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> Andrew,
>> Don't give up yet....let us know if you have a Winstart.bat
Boone - 14 Jun 2005 22:28 GMT
Thank you. I tried this. It had no affect. Any other suggestions? Please???
(Sorry, I don't mean to sound desperate.)

- Andrew

> If you still have the problem try deleting all temporary files in
> the C:\Temp and C:\Windows\temp folders.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> >> Andrew,
> >> Don't give up yet....let us know if you have a Winstart.bat
Bill Watt - 13 Jun 2005 03:36 GMT
Glen,

Forget the name but isn't there a Winstart file or something like
that that runs Setup at boot?

Regards,

Bill Watt  
Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
________________________________________________

>Start in Safe Mode.
>Click Start>Run, type   MSINFO32   and click OK.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Open a reply to this message, click in the body of the message and press Ctrl-V to
>paste the list from the clipboard to the message, and post back to this thread.
glee - 13 Jun 2005 05:28 GMT
I can't remember, Bill.  I was sort of hoping someone else here would, and pop in
with the info.  :-)
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> Glen,
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> >Open a reply to this message, click in the body of the message and press Ctrl-V to
> >paste the list from the clipboard to the message, and post back to this thread.
glee - 13 Jun 2005 05:32 GMT
Winstart.bat is a file that could be the cause here....thanks for jarring the
memory, Bill.
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> Glen,
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> >Open a reply to this message, click in the body of the message and press Ctrl-V to
> >paste the list from the clipboard to the message, and post back to this thread.
Ben Myers - 15 Jun 2005 15:50 GMT
Try starting the computer using "Step by step confirmation"(tap the F8 key
repeatedly during bootup).  This should show which part of the bootup
process is being executed when the setup program is started.

Ben

> Hi, please help I am having a problem I have never seen before.
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> - Andrew
Boone - 15 Jun 2005 19:37 GMT
Ben,

Thanks for jumping in here. All help is greatly appreciated!

Running a step-by-step boot results in the following:

Process System Registry
Startup log (bootlog.txt)
Device= C:\Windows\Himem.sys
Device=C:|Windwos\DBLBuff.sys
Device=C:|Windwos\IFSHLP.sys

Process Startup comand file (autoexec.bat)
[Here it individually selects each line in the autoexec file]
Win
Load all windows drivers
vnetsup.vxd
ndis.vxd
ndis2sup.vxd
javasup.vxd
C:\Windows\System\vrtwd.386
C:\Windows\System\vfixd.vxd
vnetbios.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\cmapieng.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\cyberkrn.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\vshinit.vxd
vgartd.vxd
vredir.vxd
dfs.vxd
msmouse.vxd

[...and at this point the PC boots to the Win98 Set-up Wizard]

Any ideas???

Thanks.
- Andrew

> Try starting the computer using "Step by step confirmation"(tap the F8 key
> repeatedly during bootup).  This should show which part of the bootup
> process is being executed when the setup program is started.
>
> Ben
Bill Watt - 16 Jun 2005 02:17 GMT
Ben had a good idea. Have also you tried the Bootlog option on the
menu? If not, try that then look at the Bootlog.txt file in the root
with Notepad. See what's there after the mouse loads, it should be
near the bottom of the file. You could copy/paste from the mouse
down and post it.

Regards,

Bill Watt  
Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
____________________________________________

>Ben,
>
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>>
>> Ben
Boone - 17 Jun 2005 14:58 GMT
Bill,

Thanks for the suggestion:

When I do an F8>Bootlog.txt start the PC fails (goes into Win98 Set-up
Wizard).  Cancelling out of that causes the PC to shut down, so I then have
to start in Safe Mode.

The result is that the Bootlog.txt file is for the second start in Safe Mode
(I think), but there is another bootlog.prv which from the .prv extension and
date-time stamp is from the Bootlog.txt start-up attempt.

Below is the info you suggested looking at:

Init = Mouse
Status = Mouse driver installed
InitDone = Mouse
Init =
LoadStart = atm32.dll
LoadSuccess = atm32.dll
LoadStart = DISPLAY.drv
LoadSuccess = DISPLAY.drv
LoadStart = V128SYS.DLL
LoadSuccess = V128SYS.DLL
InitDone = DISPLAY
Init = Display Resources
InitDone = Display Resources
LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\serife.fon
LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\serife.fon
LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\sserife.fon
LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\sserife.fon
LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\coure.fon
LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\coure.fon
LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\symbole.fon
LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\symbole.fon
LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\smalle.fon
LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\smalle.fon
LoadStart = DIBENG.DLL
LoadSuccess = DIBENG.DLL
LoadStart = DIBENG.drv
LoadSuccess = DIBENG.drv
LoadStart = TOOLHELP.DLL
LoadSuccess = TOOLHELP.DLL
LoadSuccess = user.exe
LoadStart = MSGSRV32.EXE
LoadSuccess = MSGSRV32.EXE
Init = Final USER
InitDone = Final USER
Init = Installable Drivers
InitDone = Installable Drivers
Init = TSRQuery
InitDone = TSRQuery
Terminate = User
Terminate = Query Drivers
EndTerminate = Query Drivers
Terminate = Unload Network
EndTerminate = Unload Network
Terminate = Reset Display
EndTerminate = Reset Display
EndTerminate = User

Does anything stand out to you? Thanks for the help.

Andrew

> Ben had a good idea. Have also you tried the Bootlog option on the
> menu? If not, try that then look at the Bootlog.txt file in the root
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Ben Myers - 17 Jun 2005 13:01 GMT
Start the computer in Safe mode, then start Windows Explorer, find
and double-click the following files:

C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\PowerReg Scheduler.exe
C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe
c:\windows\GWHotKey.exe
C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
c:\windows\mstask.exe
c:\windows\Rundll32.exe
c:\windows\starter.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
c:\windows\system\SysTray.Exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETWORK ASSOCIATES\MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN\VSHWIN32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA.EXE
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\refresh.exe
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IOWATCH.EXE
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IMGSTART.EXE
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IMGICON.exe
C:\Program Files\Intruder Alert 99\ia99.exe

If nothing unusual happens, expand and highlight "c:\windows\tasks",
then right-click each item in the right window and select "Run".

Ben

> Ben,
>
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> >
> > Ben
Boone - 17 Jun 2005 18:06 GMT
Most of these did nothing noticible.

A couple of comments:
> C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\PowerReg Scheduler.exe
Was located in  C:\...\Disabled Startup Items
> c:\windows\mstask.exe
Was located in C:\windows\system\
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETWORK ASSOCIATES\MCAFEE
Was missing entirely
> C:\Program Files\Intruder Alert 99\ia99.exe
Was missing emtirely

[Not that I expect it makes much difference.]

I also did your suggestion to Run all the items in c:windows\tasks
Most started and then shut down immediately. Except for:
Maintenance and Cleanup which Run

Comments? Thanks for you input.

Andrew

> Start the computer in Safe mode, then start Windows Explorer, find
> and double-click the following files:
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> > >
> > > Ben
Ben Myers - 18 Jun 2005 17:30 GMT
Try restoring a previous registry by starting the computer in "Command
Prompt" and type "scanreg  /restore".  If that doesn't help, find the
Windows setup executables on the hard drive, rename them temporarily
and see what effect that has.  You also might try StartupList.  I suggest
you extract the executable to the c:\ drive in Safe mode and run it with
the "/full" switch.

c:\startuplist  /full

http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/startuplist.zip

Ben

> Most of these did nothing noticible.
>
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> > > >
> > > > Ben
Boone - 21 Jun 2005 04:14 GMT
Ben,

Thank you! I did find a old back-up the registry and was able to reinstall
it. This allowed the PC to boot (with a bunch of errors), but I was then able
to clean the reg & system files. All is good now.

Thank you.

Andrew

> Try restoring a previous registry by starting the computer in "Command
> Prompt" and type "scanreg  /restore".  If that doesn't help, find the
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>
> Ben
 
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