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monkey - 15 Aug 2005 23:39 GMT
i wonder if anyone can help me- i have a computer with windows 98, and i
would like to re-install it (im selling the computer) but i would like to
wipe all of my information from it, so that its just plain, '98, with none of
my files or changes, just as it would have been when i bought it.

someone told me i need to format my hard drive to do this- id also like to
know how to do that is anyone can explain it to me!

if anyone has any ideas how i could do this i'd be really grateful, thank you!
Jon_Hildrum - 16 Aug 2005 00:17 GMT
The Windows setup disk made during install will do this.

If not you can get a windows setup disk from www.bootdisk.com

Make sure that bios is set to boot from A: (floppy ) first.
You can enter bios by using ctrl -del during the initial boot process on
most computers. Some uses F1 or F10 keys. Typically there will be a note
saying what to do during initial boot to get to bios.

Insert the floppy in drive a: Restart the computer.
At the A:> prompt type format C:
This will format the C drive.
Insert the Win98 CD in the CD drive and type at the a:> prompt CD <drive
letter for CD drive) \Win98\setup.

Note: The drive letter for the CD will appear during boot up process.

WARNING: Make sure you have the Retail full version of win98 or an OEM
version before doing this. You cannot make a clean install from the Retail
upgrade version without a qualifying product (Win 3.1 diskset or a win95
CD).
You also need the product code. It can easily be obtained prior to
formatting the drive. It cannot be obtained after doing this.

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>i wonder if anyone can help me- i have a computer with windows 98, and i
> would like to re-install it (im selling the computer) but i would like to
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> if anyone has any ideas how i could do this i'd be really grateful, thank
> you!
William - 19 Aug 2005 16:44 GMT
Hello, I too have reformatted my hard drive and I am now trying to get my
windows 98 reinstalled. I have tried your suggestions and I am still getting
the same results. Every time I try to reinstall Windows I get the same
message,Bad command or file name.Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.

> The Windows setup disk made during install will do this.
>
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> > if anyone has any ideas how i could do this i'd be really grateful, thank
> > you!
Ron Badour - 19 Aug 2005 18:25 GMT
I already gave you a link to specific instructions on installing W98--if you
missed it:

I have complete installation instructions here:

http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html

Once you get all the drivers installed and the system is running as you want
it, do a defrag.  Once that is done, get a program that will overwrite all
the "blank" area on your hard drive so that data cannot be easily retrieved.

Eraser:  http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/ Freeware that overwrites the "blank"
data on a hard drive.

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Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips:  http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

> Hello, I too have reformatted my hard drive and I am now trying to get my
> windows 98 reinstalled. I have tried your suggestions and I am still
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>> > thank
>> > you!
William - 19 Aug 2005 18:55 GMT
Thanks Ron for your quick respose.No I didn't miss it, in fact I thought it
was very informative. I tried your instructions also but still came up with
the same results. You were talking about modifying the startup disk but I
don't know how to access those drivers to add to my startup disk.

> I already gave you a link to specific instructions on installing W98--if you
> missed it:
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> >> > thank
> >> > you!
Mikhail Zhilin - 19 Aug 2005 20:31 GMT
>Hello, I too have reformatted my hard drive and I am now trying to get my
>windows 98 reinstalled. I have tried your suggestions and I am still getting
>the same results. Every time I try to reinstall Windows I get the same
>message,Bad command or file name.Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.

William, please, step by step:

What you are doing, and what you are typing (verbatim) while installation.
Something like:

=====
1. Boot from the diskette.
2. Type:
format C:
3. After format is finished, type:
E:
setup
4. At this moment I get a message "Bad command or file name"
=====

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Mikhail Zhilin
 MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
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>> The Windows setup disk made during install will do this.
>>
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>> > if anyone has any ideas how i could do this i'd be really grateful, thank
>> > you!
William - 20 Aug 2005 20:02 GMT
Yes that is pretty much what I am doing.After I reformat, I reboot so I can
load the temp drivers for  CD ROM support. When this is done I get the drive
letter A:\>.I change this to E:\> and after this I have typed in E:\>Setup
and also E:\>Win98\setup and also tried E:\>CD Win98 also E:\>Setup.exe and I
always get Bad command or file name.

> >Hello, I too have reformatted my hard drive and I am now trying to get my
> >windows 98 reinstalled. I have tried your suggestions and I am still getting
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> >> > if anyone has any ideas how i could do this i'd be really grateful, thank
> >> > you!
Jon_Hildrum - 20 Aug 2005 20:36 GMT
Is the drive letter for the CD E: ??

Is the CD in the drive and is it a retail or OEM CD ??

If above is yes then this should start setup
 E:\Win98\setup
Note: No > after E:

This is assuming your at and A:> prompt.
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> Yes that is pretty much what I am doing.After I reformat, I reboot so I
> can
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William - 20 Aug 2005 21:07 GMT
Thanks. I think it is a OEM CD.I tried your suggestion and still no luck.

> Is the drive letter for the CD E: ??
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Mikhail Zhilin - 20 Aug 2005 21:26 GMT
William, to add to Jon:

After you boot from the diskette -- you'll see two messages; one of them says
what is the Ramdrive letter (it is the drive with the diagnostic tools), and
the other one -- what is CDROM letter.

If the standard Startup Disk (diskette) is using, then CDROM drive letter is
always one letter higher than Ramdrive letter, and (because of the same
reason) -- one letter higher than CDROM letter in the working system.

So probably you use the wrong CDROM letter, and it has to be F: but not E:

I assume you see
E:\>
prompt, and type yourself only:

setup

in this line, so the whole line you see is "E:\>setup".
Then type not E: command at mine step 3, but F: instead.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
 MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

>Yes that is pretty much what I am doing.After I reformat, I reboot so I can
>load the temp drivers for  CD ROM support. When this is done I get the drive
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>> >> > you!
William - 20 Aug 2005 22:32 GMT
Thanks guys,I really appreciate your patience and understanding. This is what
I am seeing after I reboot and load the temp drivers, Drive E=Driver MSCDOO1
unit 0. Now under this I am still seeing drive A:\> and this is where I am
changing the letter to E. This is why I have been using E as my CD ROM
letter. I tried to use F as the drive letter as you suggested and got the
message Invalid drive specification.

> William, to add to Jon:
>
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> >> >> > if anyone has any ideas how i could do this i'd be really grateful, thank
> >> >> > you!
Jon_Hildrum - 21 Aug 2005 01:22 GMT
Try the following:
at the A:> prompt type CD E:

Then use explorer and see what is on the E:drive
If you see a folder called Win98 then at the E:> prompt type cd\win98

Now at the E:\win98 prompt type setup.

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> Thanks guys,I really appreciate your patience and understanding. This is
> what
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>> >> >> > you!
William - 21 Aug 2005 03:17 GMT
Thanks for your suggestion. I tried it and got invalid directory.I also
checked the ram drive,it is virtual drive D.From everything I have found and
with the suggestions that have been offered, everything sounds like it should
have worked. Is it possible that I am doing something wrong or maybe missing
something. I have used this disk to reinstall windows 98 before and it seems
as well as I can remember that after formatting i just typed in E:\ and
changed the drive and then typed in setup and it started, but for some reason
it is not working this time.

> Try the following:
> at the A:> prompt type CD E:
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> >> >> >> > you!
Ron Badour - 21 Aug 2005 05:39 GMT
Please follow the directions I gave and if necessary, print them out.  I
would make a new floppy boot disk as described (it doesn't create a ram
drive which often confuses people).  Once you get to the end of the boot,
look at the screen and see what letter was assigned to the CDRom drive.  At
the A: prompt, type that letter--for example, D:        and hit enter.  To
see what is on the D: drive, type:   Dir       and hit enter.  If you see a
directory you want to change to, type:   CD setup                and hit
enter.  You can always tell what directories and files are available by
using the Dir command--great when you get lost.
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Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips:  http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

> Thanks for your suggestion. I tried it and got invalid directory.I also
> checked the ram drive,it is virtual drive D.From everything I have found
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Ron Badour - 21 Aug 2005 05:34 GMT
That is a bad command Jon.  To change partitions, one types:  E:   (or
whatever)     and hits enter.  Once in the partition, one changes
directories by typing:  CD Windows (or whatever) and hitting enter.  Been a
while since you loaded 98, right :-)

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Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips:  http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

> Try the following:
> at the A:> prompt type CD E:
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Jon_Hildrum - 21 Aug 2005 14:19 GMT
Thanks you are correct Ron. Been awhile since I have used Dos.

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> That is a bad command Jon.  To change partitions, one types:  E:   (or
> whatever)     and hits enter.  Once in the partition, one changes
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>>>> >> >> > you!
William - 22 Aug 2005 02:32 GMT
Thanks guys. I do appreciate all of your suggestions. I think I have found my
problem. I beleive my Windows 98 CD is bad. Could someone tell me where I can
purchase a new one?

> Thanks you are correct Ron. Been awhile since I have used Dos.
>
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> >>>> >> >> > you!
Gary S. Terhune - 22 Aug 2005 04:51 GMT
EBay, or any number of online vendors like Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-4977521-9935823.

If you live in or near a large population center, you might find local shops
that still have a few copies.

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> Thanks guys. I do appreciate all of your suggestions. I think I have found
> my
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***** charles - 21 Aug 2005 14:35 GMT
Hi Jon,

You may be a victum of not putting spaces where they are needed.
When they say type in "cd\win98" they really mean type in the cd
and then a space and then type in \win98 and then hit the return key.
If you are tryping to run the setup command you should be in the
directory on the cd that is the WIN98 directory off the root.  If you
are in the correct place and you do a "dir" command, you should see
lots of files including the "cab" files.  If you do not, you are not in the
correct location.

charles.....

> Try the following:
> at the A:> prompt type CD E:
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> >> >> >> > you!
Ben Myers - 20 Aug 2005 07:20 GMT
Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and create a Windows 95
version B boot floppy.  This uses DOS version 7, which is sufficient for
installing Windows 98.  Use it to start the computer in question, insert
your Windows 98 CD, then type "R:\win98\setup" and press "Enter".

Ben

> Hello, I too have reformatted my hard drive and I am now trying to get my
> windows 98 reinstalled. I have tried your suggestions and I am still getting
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> > > if anyone has any ideas how i could do this i'd be really grateful, thank
> > > you!
Ron Badour - 16 Aug 2005 02:08 GMT
I have complete installation instructions here:

http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html

Once you get all the drivers installed and the system is running as you want
it, do a defrag.  Once that is done, get a program that will overwrite all
the "blank" area on your hard drive so that data cannot be easily retrieved.

Eraser:  http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/ Freeware that overwrites the "blank"
data on a
hard drive.
Signature

Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips:  http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

>i wonder if anyone can help me- i have a computer with windows 98, and i
> would like to re-install it (im selling the computer) but i would like to
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> if anyone has any ideas how i could do this i'd be really grateful, thank
> you!
 
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