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rick56 - 07 Feb 2006 03:16 GMT
I am reinstalling Windows 98 SE after partitioning and formatting the C:
drive. I had successfully flashed the bios to "see" the 30GB hd. Before the
old bios only saw 8GB of the drive. At the point where the Windows 98 setup
screen appears and I click continue, the progress bar goes to 11-13% then
hangs and the computer crashes. Scandisk does not come up with any drive
problems. Also my monitor freezes with light blue color streaks running
horozontally? I have searched data bases and have never seen this before. Any
help would be great, thanks.
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Ron Badour - 07 Feb 2006 16:43 GMT
Rick,

More specific details please.  Exactly what has occurred in the
reinstallation process when the problem occurs?  Have all the files copied,
is it detecting hardware, etc.?  With the info you've currently provided, I
would suggest that you remove or disable all cards and devices except for
the hard drive, display adapter and CDRom drive.  Then give it another shot
and see if the installation will complete.

By the way, did you flash the BIOS when the PC was still working or did you
do it and then format the drive?

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Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
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>I am reinstalling Windows 98 SE after partitioning and formatting the C:
> drive. I had successfully flashed the bios to "see" the 30GB hd. Before
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> Any
> help would be great, thanks.
rick56 - 08 Feb 2006 05:22 GMT
Ron the system hangs up suddenly just seconds after I click continue in the
first sreen that appears in Windows98 setup. It hangs before it can copy the
files and way before it has detected any hardware. It is the first sreen that
says 15-60 minutes to go until Windows loads. I have an 8MB PCI video card
installed, and a PCI internal modem card, those are the only cards in this
system. I will pull the video card and see if the OS loads. I flashed the
BIOS with Mr. BIOS from a download when the system was functioning properly.
It worked fine and when the system boots if I hit escape I can get into setup
which I have done several times. The Mr. BIOS now "sees" my Maxtor 30GB HD
and my Fujitsu 2GB D: drive. But I needed to reformat and partition the drive
in order to use all of the capacity. I have done that but now when I try to
reinstall 98 it hangs up. Thanks
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> Rick,
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rick56 - 08 Feb 2006 05:52 GMT
Ron, one other thing, it does copy some files and checks the registry. Then
when it goes to the screen where the setup wizard takes over it freezes up
after 11% when I click continue. I put in an older ISA video card and that
did not fix it, still hangs at 11% into the install? I hope this gives you a
better idea? If not let me know and I will try to provide more info. Thanks
much
Rick
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> Rick,
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Ron Badour - 08 Feb 2006 13:36 GMT
Rick

I think Bill's recommendation is the logical step to take.

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Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
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> Ron, one other thing, it does copy some files and checks the registry.
> Then
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>> > help would be great, thanks.
mdp - 08 Feb 2006 20:17 GMT
I agree with Bill too.  Better to copy the Win98 directory to the C: drive
and install from the HD.  However, check your CD for any smudges and
scratches.  This is often a problem as these CDs are very old and many do
not notice or check.

> Ron, one other thing, it does copy some files and checks the registry.
> Then
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>> > Any
>> > help would be great, thanks.
Bill Watt - 08 Feb 2006 07:43 GMT
>I am reinstalling Windows 98 SE after partitioning and formatting the C:
>drive. I had successfully flashed the bios to "see" the 30GB hd. Before the
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>horozontally? I have searched data bases and have never seen this before. Any
>help would be great, thanks.

Rick,

This MS Article may help you find out what Setup is trying to do
when it hangs.
Description of Windows 98 Setup Process.  (Q195568)
http://tinyurl.com/d2rbz

If it turns out to be when it is extracting and copying files from
the CD try copying the Win98 folder on the CD to your HDD and run
Setup from there from Dos, this often eliminates some problems. Be
sure to install into the Windows folder if it tries to install into
a different one.

From the C:\ prompt enter:
MD C:\Win98
Copy D:\Win98\*.* C:\Win98
Where D: is your CDrom drive.
Then run Setup from the Win98 folder and you won't need your
CDrom. Whenever Windows needs something from the CD it will go there
instead.

Regards,

Bill Watt  
Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
rick56 - 13 Feb 2006 02:34 GMT
Bill, Thanks for the infomation. I haven't touched the system in a few days.
I will give your suggestion a try and let you know if it does the trick.

I appreciate it

Rick M
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> >I am reinstalling Windows 98 SE after partitioning and formatting the C:
> >drive. I had successfully flashed the bios to "see" the 30GB hd. Before the
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> Bill Watt  
> Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
rick56 - 13 Feb 2006 03:13 GMT
Sorry I meant Bill
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Rick56

> >I am reinstalling Windows 98 SE after partitioning and formatting the C:
> >drive. I had successfully flashed the bios to "see" the 30GB hd. Before the
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> Bill Watt  
> Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
rick56 - 16 Feb 2006 04:27 GMT
Bill,

Can you tell me again the DOS commands in order to load the Win98 folder
directly'
to the HD? I tried it and kept getting the error bad command or file name? I
have not
used DOS in awhile and my DOS 6.22 book does not have instructions on how to
load From the CD right to the hard drive. When I typed MD C:\Win98 it came
back with the directory already exists? So then I entered CD Win98, it went
to it but when I tried the Copy E:\Win98\*.* C:\Win98 it said to many
parameters? What am I doing wrong? Help! Thanks

Rick
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> >I am reinstalling Windows 98 SE after partitioning and formatting the C:
> >drive. I had successfully flashed the bios to "see" the 30GB hd. Before the
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> Bill Watt  
> Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
Bill Watt - 16 Feb 2006 07:27 GMT
>Bill,
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>Rick

Is there anything in the Win98 folder when you enter
Dir C:\win98 /p?
If it contains dozens of CAB files that means the folder on the CD
has already been copied. If it includes Setup.exe then run it to
install Windows.

If the folder contains misc. files then install into a Win98cd
folder instead:
Boot with a Win98 startup diskette with CDrom support.
Enter   C:
From the C:\ prompt enter:
MD C:\Win98cd
Copy E:\Win98\*.* C:\Win98cd
Where E: is your CDrom drive.
Then run Setup from the Win98cd folder and you won't need your
CDrom.

Let us know.

Regards,

Bill Watt  
Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
Bill Watt - 16 Feb 2006 07:32 GMT
>If the folder contains misc. files then install into a Win98cd
>folder instead:

That should be COPY into a Win98cd folder instead. Install into
C:\Windows.

Regards,

Bill Watt  
Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
rick56 - 17 Feb 2006 06:48 GMT
Bill,
Sucess! Thank you very much for the help, all thats left to do is reload the
drivers for my video card and setup my dial up. What a relief.

Thanks a Million
Rick
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Rick56

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> Bill Watt  
> Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
Bill Watt - 17 Feb 2006 07:19 GMT
Glad you got squared away and thanks for reporting the results.

Regards,

Bill Watt  
Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
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>Bill,
>Sucess! Thank you very much for the help, all thats left to do is reload the
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>> Bill Watt  
>> Computer Help and Information  http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
 
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