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mac 98 - 27 Feb 2004 20:26 GMT
Hi --

I'm getting on start up:

error RUNDLL  = MMSYSTEM.DLL at 0001:00000032

in an earlier posting someone wrote :

edit file system.ini  and add :drivers=mmsystem.dll to
boot section of file. If this is the correct fix can
anyone elaborate what this means?
I tried to add the mentioned name in dos with the make
directory md\ command with no luck.

thanx in advance ~ Mac
glee - 27 Feb 2004 23:56 GMT
The MD command is for creating a directory (folder)...you are trying to edit the system.ini file, so I can't see why you tried MD

Can you boot Windows, in normal mode or in Safe Mode?

Have a look here:
Error Messages in Mmsystem.dll or Rundll32:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=kb;en-us;138835

Please provide the exact error message you are receiving.
If you get an "illegal operation" error message, click the "Details" button, and post back with the exact details word for word, up to but not including the memory registers.
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mac98 - 28 Feb 2004 17:26 GMT
Glee -  thanks for your time ......The details on your
link I've cut and pasted below -

To correct this problem, follow these steps:

1.. Use any text editor (such as Notepad) to edit the
System.ini file.
2.. Add the following line to the [boot] section of the
file:       drivers=mmsystem.dll
3.. Save and then close the System.ini file.
4.. Restart your computer.

What exactly is the 'system.ini' file ?  When I was in
dos I opened the  directory for the system.ini file and
inserted the line of text that's suggested.  But
obviously, I have no idea .....

MEANTINE, to answer your other question, I couldn't get
windows to open at all because I had another problem - a
VxD Pelmouse situation and someone on the news group
suggested I load a new mouse. And I did and the blue
screen of death disappeared but created this new issue
whereby I can only start the computer in Safe Mode. If I
don't, at start up I get 'system.ini' can not be
found and then it says to reload windows with the disk.
And I have the disk, so I suppose it's no big deal ?
BUT I have something like 2gb's of files I don't want to
lose or I'd reinstall windows in a heart beat.
I have another newer computer that is on XP pro, do you
think I could simply hardwire the two together and send
the files over to the new computer? Will that work in
safe mode?

I knew some situation would arise and this would
happen....I've been
procrastinating taking my files off the hard drive.  Oh
well.

Once again - thanks for your time and consideration.

~ mac

>-----Original Message-----
>The MD command is for creating a directory (folder)...you are trying to edit the system.ini file, so
I can't see why you tried MD

>Can you boot Windows, in normal mode or in Safe Mode?
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>Please provide the exact error message you are receiving.
>If you get an "illegal operation" error message, click the "Details" button, and post back with the exact
details word for word, up to but not including the memory
registers.
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glee - 29 Feb 2004 04:57 GMT
Can you boot into Safe Mode?
To enter Safe Mode,  start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.
Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

In Safe Mode, click Start>Run, type  system.ini  and click OK.
Check under the [boot] section to ensure that there is a line that says: drivers=mmsystem.dll
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> Glee -  thanks for your time ......The details on your
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mac 98 - 02 Mar 2004 21:44 GMT
Hi again....

.....safe mode is not a problem.

System.ini is the problem. When you boot in regular mode
the screen is all black except for the words: System.ini
is missing, please use the Windows disk to reboot your
system, or something to that effect.
So, when you boot in Safe mode and tab up to 'run' from
the Start menu, the system can't find system.ini.
I went to 'find' and entered system.ini and nothing came
up from the search.
I then went into 'Explorer' and went thru every file to
look for system.ini and found nothing - I did find
ROSystem.ini and opened that in note pad and typed
drivers=mmsystem.dll but I suspect I'm not close to where
I'm supposed to be. I then went looking for 'cab' files
to see if I can extract the file 'system.ini' and
couldn't find any cab files. Why will 'safe mode' not let
me open my D: drive, so I can extract the file from the
disk? I just thought of something, can I copy the
system.ini file from the disk to a floppy from another
machine? What is system.ini anyway? Is it the operations
file?

thnx again for your patience. ~ Mac

>-----Original Message-----
>Can you boot into Safe Mode?
>To enter Safe Mode,  start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu (boot menu)
appears.
>Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.
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glee - 03 Mar 2004 04:04 GMT
Do you have WinZip or a similar unzipping program installed?
If so, we can try extracting the system.ini file from one of the backups (.cab files) that windows creates at boot-up each day.

I am reluctant to use the usual registry and .ini file restore method, as so many days have passed since your original post, and because that might bring you back to the original situation you had where you could not start at all.  

I also can't say if your surviving .cab backups have a copy of the system.ini file....so let's have a look.

First, boot into Safe Mode, then click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show All Files" and click OK.
Open Windows Explorer or My Computer, and navigate to the C:\Windows\Sysbckup folder.
Look for some files named in this format: rb###.cab, where ### will be something like 001 or 002, and so on.
Open the most recently-dated one using WinZip, and see if a copy of the system.ini file is enclosed.
If it is, extract the system.ini file to the C:\Windows folder, then restart windows and see if it will start in normal mode.

If the .cab file does not contain a copy, open another of the rb###.cab files, until you find one with a copy of the system.ini

If none have a copy, or if there are no .cab files there, we will have to try an alternate method to create a basic system.ini file.
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mac 98 - 04 Mar 2004 17:58 GMT
Glen...

Sorry about being tardy. The problem computer and the one
I'm writing on are not at the same location.

I'll try all of the following suggestions and let you
know ASAP which probably won't be today.

'till then and Thankx

~Mac

>-----Original Message-----
>Do you have WinZip or a similar unzipping program installed?
>If so, we can try extracting the system.ini file from one of the backups (.cab files) that windows creates at
boot-up each day.

>I am reluctant to use the usual registry and .ini file restore method, as so many days have passed since your
original post, and because that might bring you back to
the original situation you had where you could not start
at all.  

>I also can't say if your surviving .cab backups have a copy of the system.ini file....so let's have a look.
>
>First, boot into Safe Mode, then click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show All
Files" and click OK.
>Open Windows Explorer or My Computer, and navigate to the C:\Windows\Sysbckup folder.
>Look for some files named in this format: rb###.cab, where ### will be something like 001 or 002, and so on.
>Open the most recently-dated one using WinZip, and see if a copy of the system.ini file is enclosed.
>If it is, extract the system.ini file to the C:\Windows folder, then restart windows and see if it will start in
normal mode.

>If the .cab file does not contain a copy, open another of the rb###.cab files, until you find one with a copy of
the system.ini

>If none have a copy, or if there are no .cab files there, we will have to try an alternate method to create
a basic system.ini file.
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mac 98 - 05 Mar 2004 17:19 GMT
Glen,

That was interesting.

I found the cab files you spoke of.
I checked the dates for the latest one and extracted it
to the c:/windows folder. And rebooted.
It took me back to the reason I first started this
correpondence:
Invalid VxD dynamic link called from PELMOUSE (02) +
00000IC to device ''000C'', service 3.

When I posted the error message above someone told me my
mouse was bad; I changed it with the drivers and the
error message disappeared. And then the run.dll error
started....and that's where you came into the picture.

Sooo- I went ahead and checked the dates of all the cab
files and I checked the dates of the files I'm trying to
save and Voila. I found a cab file that was dated after
my last entry to the files I need.

I went back and extracted an early cab file with the
system.ini and C'est tout. That's it.

Problem solved.

thank you for your time and patience, it's nice.

~mac


>-----Original Message-----
>Do you have WinZip or a similar unzipping program installed?
>If so, we can try extracting the system.ini file from one of the backups (.cab files) that windows creates at
boot-up each day.

>I am reluctant to use the usual registry and .ini file restore method, as so many days have passed since your
original post, and because that might bring you back to
the original situation you had where you could not start
at all.  

>I also can't say if your surviving .cab backups have a copy of the system.ini file....so let's have a look.
>
>First, boot into Safe Mode, then click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show All
Files" and click OK.
>Open Windows Explorer or My Computer, and navigate to the C:\Windows\Sysbckup folder.
>Look for some files named in this format: rb###.cab, where ### will be something like 001 or 002, and so on.
>Open the most recently-dated one using WinZip, and see if a copy of the system.ini file is enclosed.
>If it is, extract the system.ini file to the C:\Windows folder, then restart windows and see if it will start in
normal mode.

>If the .cab file does not contain a copy, open another of the rb###.cab files, until you find one with a copy of
the system.ini

>If none have a copy, or if there are no .cab files there, we will have to try an alternate method to create
a basic system.ini file.
>> Hi again....
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glee - 06 Mar 2004 04:30 GMT
So, if I am reading that correctly, you can boot into normal mode now, without error?  
If that is the case, I am glad you were able to get it worked out, and thanks for the feedback.
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