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breezyyb - 31 Jan 2007 12:41 GMT
can I hook my laptop to my desktop, and be able to get online with both?
exactly how do I go about doing so if possible? Ithe laptop has win98 SE and
the desktop has winXP home...thanks
Ron Badour - 31 Jan 2007 13:12 GMT
It depends on the hardware capabilities of your laptop.

I'd go with a wireless router and a wireless laptop adaptor card (if the
laptop has a card port) so you could retain the mobility of the laptop;
however, if your PC has a NIC port, you could use a cable which would also
save you a few bucks.  Go to buy.com (for example) and search on:  "wireless
router" and "wireless card laptop."
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> can I hook my laptop to my desktop, and be able to get online with both?
> exactly how do I go about doing so if possible? Ithe laptop has win98 SE
> and
> the desktop has winXP home...thanks
breezyyb - 31 Jan 2007 14:45 GMT
I dont want the computers to be hooked up together all the time, just to
get a few games on the laptop, as it has no CD rom drive....could I do it
that way?

> It depends on the hardware capabilities of your laptop.
>
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> > and
> > the desktop has winXP home...thanks
Ron Badour - 31 Jan 2007 16:27 GMT
What hardware does the laptop have (modem, NIC, card port, USB port)?

Do you want to get on the internet with the laptop and if so, does it have a
modem?  If so, why does it have to be connected to the desktop?

Or, are you just interested in getting some games and transferring them to
the laptop?

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>I dont want the computers to be hooked up together all the time, just to
> get a few games on the laptop, as it has no CD rom drive....could I do it
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>> > and
>> > the desktop has winXP home...thanks
Gary S. Terhune - 31 Jan 2007 18:05 GMT
My impression is that he wants to run CD-based games on the laptop, using
the CD drive on the desktop. The kind of games where you have to have the CD
inserted and accessible.

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> What hardware does the laptop have (modem, NIC, card port, USB port)?
>
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> >> > and
> >> > the desktop has winXP home...thanks
Ron Badour - 31 Jan 2007 19:23 GMT
I would have never come to that conclusion, Gary :-)

Oh breezyyb, how about telling us exactly what you want to do?

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> My impression is that he wants to run CD-based games on the laptop, using
> the CD drive on the desktop. The kind of games where you have to have the
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>> >> > and
>> >> > the desktop has winXP home...thanks
breezyyb - 01 Feb 2007 00:15 GMT
very sorry it has taken so long to reply...what I would like to do is hook
the 2 computers together and try and get the laptop online. what does it
have?? its got a PMCIA card and thats it, its set up for dialup and I have
cable. it doesnt have a
cd rom. I would like to get a few games on it that are already on my
desktop, like gamehouse,solitaire,etc....I guess transferr them would be a
better term. and about getting it online, I guess I just wanted to know if
you can do that sort of thing...so thats not at the top of the list for
me...I dont know if I know what to do or what to hook together with what
cords..serial port,com port...I am just a bit befuddled.
so I hope this answered all the things you asked,
(and I had left out in the begining!!  sorry)
      I hope to hear from someone soon, but its not an emergency...whenever
you guys have the time!!  thanks again!!   breezyyb~~pennie

> I would have never come to that conclusion, Gary :-)
>
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> >> >> > and
> >> >> > the desktop has winXP home...thanks
Gary S. Terhune - 01 Feb 2007 02:05 GMT
Do you have a broadband connection for the Desktop? DSL or Cable? If so, do
you only have a simple modem with one single LAN outlet that connects to
your desktop machine, or are there more than one outlet. DSL/Cable modems
come in three basic flavors:

Modem-only: One single LAN (ethernet) outlet that you connect directly to
the computer, to a network switch or to a network router.

Modem + Router: As the name implies, it includes the modem and more than one
LAN (ethernet) outlet that you can use to connect to more than one machine,
switch(es) or more router(s).

Modem + Router + Wireless: All of the above plus additional wireless
capability for the router.

Which do you have? Or does your XP desktop only have a dial-up connection?
It would be easier to start from where you are than to enumerate all of the
possibilities that are out there. Also, does your laptop have a LAN port
(looks like telephone port only wider)?

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> very sorry it has taken so long to reply...what I would like to do is hook
> the 2 computers together and try and get the laptop online. what does it
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> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > the desktop has winXP home...thanks
Ron Badour - 01 Feb 2007 04:49 GMT
The easy way to transfer games is to use a memory stick providing your
laptop has a USB port.

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> very sorry it has taken so long to reply...what I would like to do is hook
> the 2 computers together and try and get the laptop online. what does it
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>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > the desktop has winXP home...thanks
breezyyb - 02 Feb 2007 11:59 GMT
hi again..ok, upon looking at the laptop, it has no USB port...(GASP!)...all
it has is the PMCIA card which I assume should have some sort of wire/cord
attached. my desktop has the modem and router that Mr. Terhune described. we
are hooked up to
with our cable company...
  I do really apologize for not giving all this info to start with...I
thought it would just be a matter of hooking up a serial port cable and off I
would go!! wow!
  but thanks again for taking the time...breezyyb

> The easy way to transfer games is to use a memory stick providing your
> laptop has a USB port.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> > emergency...whenever
> > you guys have the time!!  thanks again!!   breezyyb~~pennie
Gary S. Terhune - 03 Feb 2007 22:38 GMT
A PCMCIA card is a way to plug in any number of items to a laptop. It's like
a PCI slot in a desktop machine. What you probably want is a PCMCIA Ethernet
adapter that you can plug into that slot, and a cable to connect it to the
router. Here are some examples http://tinyurl.com/2lpsbp

If your router was wireless, then I would recommend a PCMCIA wireless
adapter instead of a PCMCIA Ethernet (hardwired LAN) adapter.
http://tinyurl.com/2jxmbq However, this would also require that you purchase
a wireless gateway to connect to the router. Not cheap, unless you can
convince your cable company to upgrade you to some sort of combination
modem/router/wireless for not too much. http://tinyurl.com/3dsq28

Note that there are also PCMCIA USB cards available. For network connection,
I'd much prefer the LAN or wireless option, since USB cables are much more
expensive. Your router would also require a USB output, which many do, or I
*think* there's a way to do "Direct Cable Connection" to the desktop using
USB, but it's by far the more limited option.

Considering what you say you have now, a PCMCIA Ethernet adapter and a
decent length of Ethernet cable is by far the cheapest solution, and it
happens to also be the easiest to set up. Wireless would be the most
convenient solution, since it allows the laptop to go anywhere in the house
or yard. It's also the most expensive, by far. USB is probably the least
convenient and the hardest to set up, but if you were to replace your router
with one that had USB output, the PCMCIA card could then double for any
number of other USB purposes. Considering how relatively inexpensive PCMCIA
cards are, I'd suggest just getting one if you need it, and leaving it out
of the networking equation.

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> hi again..ok, upon looking at the laptop, it has no USB
> port...(GASP!)...all
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>> > emergency...whenever
>> > you guys have the time!!  thanks again!!   breezyyb~~pennie
Jeff Richards - 03 Feb 2007 23:08 GMT
What does the label on the PCMCIA card say?  It could be a modem, an
Ethernet card, memory or a number of other things.
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> hi again..ok, upon looking at the laptop, it has no USB
> port...(GASP!)...all
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> would go!! wow!
>   but thanks again for taking the time...breezyyb
breezyyb - 04 Feb 2007 14:23 GMT
hi again...
 the card that was in the laptop is a "data/fax modem...PCMCIA from
IBM"...there is nothing but the card...nothing attched to it. so I went out
and got this "D-Link 10/100 fast ethernet notebook adapter"...and guess what?
I cant install the thing because I dont have a cd-rom inthe laptop...I think
I am about to give up here!! I seem to be getting beat all the way around!
 If you have no more ideas that all right...I did put the card into the
laptop, and it fits nicly but there it sits and nothing happened when its
hooked up to the internet....the laptop doesnt even seem to recognize it the
card, but I was hoping something good would happen!! I have hit a dead end
huh?
              thanks for all your help!!!  pennie

> What does the label on the PCMCIA card say?  It could be a modem, an
> Ethernet card, memory or a number of other things.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> > would go!! wow!
> >   but thanks again for taking the time...breezyyb
Gary S. Terhune - 04 Feb 2007 17:03 GMT
Haven't even come *close* to a dead end, yet.

The drivers required by a PCMCIA network adapter should fit on a floppy. The
laptop has a floppy drive, doesn't it?

Alternatively, the laptop now has a modem, which means you can make a
dial-up connection to the internet, which means you can download the drivers
package from D-Link if they won't fit onto a floppy, or perhaps you can do
it using two floppies. Certainly shouldn't require more than that.

What model is your D-Link card? Who do you get your internet service from?
With those two answers, especially the first one, I can almost certainly
come up with a way for you to install your D-Link card.

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> hi again...
>  the card that was in the laptop is a "data/fax modem...PCMCIA from
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>> > would go!! wow!
>> >   but thanks again for taking the time...breezyyb
breezyyb - 05 Feb 2007 03:41 GMT
ok...we're not dead yet...the model # of the D-Link is DFE-690TXD. and I have
my service from our cable company, mediacom. we have NO dial up here in the
house...we dont even have a house phone!!  :)
  hope that will help you to help me...THANKS!!!  pennie

> Haven't even come *close* to a dead end, yet.
>
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> >> > would go!! wow!
> >> >   but thanks again for taking the time...breezyyb
Gary S. Terhune - 05 Feb 2007 22:50 GMT
OK, using your XP machine go here:
http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=DFE%2D690TXD#drivers

(If that doesn't work in your email client, click here:
http://tinyurl.com/27fxbd)

In the box that says "Drivers", click on the "98" icon. That should open a
small window that describes the driver download. Click on "Download". That
will start a download. Save it to your Desktop, or better yet, you should
create a folder on C:\ called "Downloads", another folder inside that one
called "98 Laptop", another inside that called "D-Link", and save the
download to that folder. I save all drivers and other downloads to a
Downloads folder, using a well structured set of folders. Makes them easy to
find later.

Copy that downloaded EXE to a floppy to transfer to your laptop. It's only
84 KB. Copy the file from the floppy drive to another new set of folders
resembling the one above. Double-click it, and when prompted where to save
the files, click Browse and browse to the folder where you saved the EXE
file. DO NOT save to the TEMP folder as prompted.

Shut down the system, insert the card, then restart. Windows should detect
the new hardware during startup and prompt you to install it. Click Next,
choose "Search for best driver...", then Next. On the next dialogue, uncheck
everything except "Specify location", then use the Browse to browse to the
location where you unpacked the files earlier, going one step further and
clicking on the WIN98 folder that is now there. If there aren't any driver
installation files in the folder, it won't let you click OK. Then click on
through to finish the process.

You will also need to have your original Windows 98 installation files
available, but I'm betting they're already on your system, and Windows will
automatically locate them.

You'll have to restart your system for everything to work. Make sure to
connect the cable to the router, also. If you can't then connect to the
internet, use the Start>Run box to run WINIPCFG. Click Release All, then
Renew All. Try the internet again. If you still have no luck, go to Network
applet in Control Panel and tell us what's listed there.

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> ok...we're not dead yet...the model # of the D-Link is DFE-690TXD. and I have
> my service from our cable company, mediacom. we have NO dial up here in the
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> > >> > would go!! wow!
> > >> >   but thanks again for taking the time...breezyyb
 
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