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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / General Topics / December 2003PDF files take forever to open - please help
My system is running Win98SE. And, I have the following installed: - Adobe Acrobat v5.0 - Adobe FrameMaker v5.5 - Adobe PhotoDeluxe Business Edition v1.1 Whenever I try to open a PDF file, the initial Adobe Acrobat image opens and seems to stay that way for minutes. Anyone know what might be causing this problem? What program is associated with PDF files? What program opens? Adobe Acrobat or Acrobat Reader? If AcroReader, which version? You certainly don't want full Acrobat opening just to read PDF files. That's like using Photoshop as an image viewer. Those programs are editors, creation tools, and quite heavily laden. Where are you opening them? In a browser (clicking on web links) or are these locally stored files? Maybe due to "Updating Online Components? Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling? How about trying AcroReader 6? There are too many possible issues to go into here. Adobe products are incredibly complex. I see that you have also posted to the Adobe groups, though my reply will not appear there, probably. You're probably going to get better answers there, though depending on your responses to the above, I might be able to offer further suggestions. I find it endlessly, er, "entertaining" trying to keep my Adobe products on their best behavior.  SignatureGary S. Terhune MS MVP for Windows 9x *Recommended Help Sites* http://www.dts-l.org http://www.mvps.org http://www.aumha.org How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=newswhelp +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > My system is running Win98SE. And, I have the following installed: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Whenever I try to open a PDF file, the initial Adobe Acrobat image opens and > seems to stay that way for minutes. Anyone know what might be causing this problem? > What program is associated with PDF files? What program opens? Adobe Acrobat or > Acrobat Reader? If AcroReader, which version? You certainly don't want full > Acrobat opening just to read PDF files. That's like using Photoshop as an image > viewer. Those programs are editors, creation tools, and quite heavily laden. PDF files are associated with the following: "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe" "%1" Adobe Reader v5.0 opens when PDF files are double clicked. I only have Adobe Reader v5.0 installed but, in Control Panel's "Add/Remove Programs", it is listed as: - Adobe Acrobat v5.0 Sorry about the confusion. > Where are you opening them? In a browser (clicking on web links) or are these > locally stored files? The PDF files are locally stored files. > Maybe due to "Updating Online Components? Have you tried uninstalling and > reinstalling? How about trying AcroReader 6? Sure, I'll try uninstalling AcroReader v5.0 and installing AcroReader 6. > There are too many possible issues to go into here. Adobe products are > incredibly complex. I see that you have also posted to the Adobe groups, though [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > seems to stay that way for minutes. Anyone know what might be causing this > problem? I don't know that AcroReader 6 will seem like an improvement. Neither one of them is lightening quick, and everything else being equal, it seems like 6 is slower... But the simple act of uninstalling/reinstalling either may "fix" things. It's my impression that Adobe Products aren't really written with Windows users as priority. The whole logic underlying much of their stuff would appear to be born of Mac logic instead, and the translation has never seemed to worked well. Not really clear that I have that right, it's just my impression. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS MVP for Windows 9x *Recommended Help Sites* http://www.dts-l.org http://www.mvps.org http://www.aumha.org How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=newswhelp +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > What program is associated with PDF files? What program opens? Adobe Acrobat or > > Acrobat Reader? If AcroReader, which version? You certainly don't want full [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > > seems to stay that way for minutes. Anyone know what might be causing this > > problem? Yes, installing AcroReader 6 after uninstalling AcroReader 5 did improve the speed at which PDF files open. Although it's not lightening fast, it is no longer taking minutes to load a PDF file. > I don't know that AcroReader 6 will seem like an improvement. Neither one of > them is lightening quick, and everything else being equal, it seems like 6 is [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > this > > > problem? Glad to hear it. I suspect you may get more satisfactory results if you now uninstall v6 and reinstall v5, though gunginess may still remain in the Registry entries for v5 that only a manual cleansing can remedy. Considering the pig that v6 is, it might be worth a try. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS MVP for Windows 9x *Recommended Help Sites* http://www.dts-l.org http://www.mvps.org http://www.aumha.org How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=newswhelp +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Yes, installing AcroReader 6 after uninstalling AcroReader 5 did improve the > speed at which PDF files open. Although it's not lightening fast, [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > > this > > > > problem? Thanks for the suggestion but I'm happy with v6. > Glad to hear it. > [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > > > this > > > > > problem? On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:30:18 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" >I don't know that AcroReader 6 will seem like an improvement. Neither one of >them is lightening quick, and everything else being equal, it seems like 6 is >slower... But the simple act of uninstalling/reinstalling either may "fix" Dunno whether it's because I have the "full" version 6 viewer vs. trimmer editions of versions 5.xx, but I find 6 materially slower. However, version 5.00 has been bugfixed to 5.05 (as I recall) then hopped up slightly to 5.1 - so if you want to "upgrade your way out of trouble", you can do so from 5.00 without having to commit to 6. >---------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - The Festering Season: Tis the time to be drunk and disorderly >---------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - Having the full Adobe Design Suite, I can tell you that as a class they are slow and heavy to open in Windows. The trade off is stability, capacity, and relative durability once they are up and running. AcroReader 6 *seems* to be slow even scrolling, sometimes, but I'm beginning to think this is more due to poorly executed PDF writing on many fronts. Yes, 5.05 seems to be the best of class at this time (not sure I spent much time with 5.1), but as I say, that may be due to lack of "features" that in 6 can be handy--provided the file itself is rigged for such use. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS MVP for Windows 9x *Recommended Help Sites* http://www.dts-l.org http://www.mvps.org http://www.aumha.org How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=newswhelp +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:30:18 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The Festering Season: Tis the time to be drunk and disorderly > >---------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - When I went from Adobe Reader 4 to 5, it was like going from day to night. 5 is terribly slow. I was thinking of going back to 4, but maybe someone will let us know if 6 is faster loading. Henry > > What program is associated with PDF files? What program opens? Adobe Acrobat or > > Acrobat Reader? If AcroReader, which version? You certainly don't want full [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > > seems to stay that way for minutes. Anyone know what might be causing this > > problem? It's been awhile since I made that upgrade from version 5 to 6, but if I remember right, version 6 might be faster AFTER the first time it's invoked, due to (the then) resident code being kept in memory. Perhaps someone else here remembers. > When I went from Adobe Reader 4 to 5, it was like going from day to > night. 5 is terribly slow. I was thinking of going back to 4, but [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] >>>> and seems to stay that way for minutes. Anyone know what might be causing >>>> this problem? I think *perhaps* a large factor in AcroReader response is whether you have other Adobe Products installed, and how many additional components. I *feels* like every related portion of the Registry and other components are enumerated during startup of any Adobe product. Font enumeration is also a slow an tedious one in many of them. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS MVP for Windows 9x *Recommended Help Sites* http://www.dts-l.org http://www.mvps.org http://www.aumha.org How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=newswhelp +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > It's been awhile since I made that upgrade from version 5 to 6, but if I > remember right, version 6 might be faster AFTER the first time it's invoked, [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > >>>> and seems to stay that way for minutes. Anyone know what might be causing > >>>> this problem? > When I went from Adobe Reader 4 to 5, it was like going from day to > night. 5 is terribly slow. I was thinking of going back to 4, but > maybe someone will let us know if 6 is faster loading. > > Henry I installed 6 and it was twice as slow as 5. I uninstalled 6 and went back to 5. willille >> When I went from Adobe Reader 4 to 5, it was like going from day to >> night. 5 is terribly slow. I was thinking of going back to 4, but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I installed 6 and it was twice as slow as 5. I uninstalled 6 and went back to > 5. willille Not after it's been "initialized" the first time, is it? I mean, after you have used it once after bootup, when you bring it up again it's pretty fast (or so I thought). My experience is that 6 is noticeably slower to load, and more piggy in other ways, too. Still, it has some nice features that I've found indispensable in my work, though my current state of mental chaos prevents me from remembering what they are, <s>. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS MVP for Windows 9x *Recommended Help Sites* http://www.dts-l.org http://www.mvps.org http://www.aumha.org How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=newswhelp +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> When I went from Adobe Reader 4 to 5, it was like going from day to > >> night. 5 is terribly slow. I was thinking of going back to 4, but [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > have used it once after bootup, when you bring it up again it's pretty fast (or > so I thought). |
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