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Larry - 21 Apr 2004 19:25 GMT
Trying to copy files from a floppy to my Windows 98 computer, I get a
message:  "Cannot copy [filename].  System cannot read from specified
device."

Does this indicate a flaw in the floppy diskette itself, or something
wrong with the floppy drive?

Larry
AAH - 21 Apr 2004 19:31 GMT
First check the format of the floppy disk.
Is it  1.44mb, 1.68mb or 1.72mb?

Trying to copy files from a floppy to my Windows 98 computer, I get a
message:  "Cannot copy [filename].  System cannot read from specified
device."

Does this indicate a flaw in the floppy diskette itself, or something
wrong with the floppy drive?

Larry
Art - 22 Apr 2004 06:02 GMT
or 2.88 mb's -- my old IBM 486 with Windows 3.1 had one of these ---
never really caught on -- they had Superdisks with 120 mb's that could
also handle normal floppies and now we have cd and dvd burners.

: First check the format of the floppy disk.
: Is it  1.44mb, 1.68mb or 1.72mb?
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: Larry
glee - 21 Apr 2004 19:41 GMT
Either.
Try copying something from a different disk and see if the error still occurs.
Try the diskette in question in another drive on another computer.

Those two tests should give you the clues you need.

Also, some older drives will give an error when reading, if the heads are out of alignment.
Try pushing in slightly on one corner of the diskette, while it is being read.
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> Trying to copy files from a floppy to my Windows 98 computer, I get a
> message:  "Cannot copy [filename].  System cannot read from specified
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> Larry
Larry - 21 Apr 2004 22:38 GMT
Basic logic.  :-)

Larry
Menno Hershberger - 21 Apr 2004 20:53 GMT
"Larry" <larry328@att.net> wrote in news:OIhGI38JEHA.3592
@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> Trying to copy files from a floppy to my Windows 98 computer, I get a
> message:  "Cannot copy [filename].  System cannot read from specified
> device."
>
> Does this indicate a flaw in the floppy diskette itself, or something
> wrong with the floppy drive?

  Since you've already got answers to this, I'd like to mention
something a Microsoft support tech told me on the phone once when I was
trying (while he waited) to make a Windows 98 startup disk on two
different machines. It took three times before I found a floppy that
would work.
  He said something to the effect... "Over the years they've been able
to develop hard drives that are almost as fast as memory, but *nothing*
has been done for floppy drive technology."
  Actually, I think it gets worse over the years. Back in about 1998
when I started out with an old DOS machine, I don't remember hardly
*ever* having any trouble with floppy disks. I still have the 6 disk
installation set for Windows 3.1, and here a couple of weeks ago I
installed 3.1 on an old computer without any problem at all.

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glee - 22 Apr 2004 04:14 GMT
> "Larry" <larry328@att.net> wrote in news:OIhGI38JEHA.3592
> @TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
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> installation set for Windows 3.1, and here a couple of weeks ago I
> installed 3.1 on an old computer without any problem at all.

I agree....I find quite a lot of bad diskettes in a new package these days (or diskettes that go bad soon after being written to), whereas I have a lot of floppies from years ago that are still good.  I even have still-working 5.25-inch floppy disks that are at least 12 or 14 years old.
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Larry - 22 Apr 2004 13:36 GMT
> I agree....I find quite a lot of bad diskettes in a new package these days (or diskettes that go bad soon after being written to), whereas I
have a lot of floppies from years ago that are still good.  I even have
still-working 5.25-inch floppy disks that are at least 12 or 14 years
old.

I'd be curious to know what kind of computer you're still using that has
a 5.25 disk drive!

Larry
Hugh Candlin - 22 Apr 2004 17:06 GMT
> > I agree....I find quite a lot of bad diskettes in a new package these
> days (or diskettes that go bad soon after being written to), whereas I
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> I'd be curious to know what kind of computer you're still using that has
> a 5.25 disk drive!

If he's like me, he simply cannibalized them from old XTs, 286s or 386s.
They come in handy when you run into an old game or application, or want
to transfer data from an old DOS machine which lacks a 3.5 drive.

I have a few 5.25 drives myself in some of my PCs, and on my parts shelf,
along with video cards, sound cards, NICs, external modems, etc.

I can throw in a 'me three" with respect to the lack of reliability
of floppy disks.  I would strongly recommend that anyone who has anything
of value only on a floppy immediately copy it to a hard drive somewhere
and burn it to a CDR or CDRW.  The floppy disk variance is all over the map.
Some can be read in any drive.  Some can be read in every drive bar one.
Some can be read in one drive only.  Some cannot be read, period.
Art - 23 Apr 2004 01:35 GMT
You are completely correct.

: > > I agree....I find quite a lot of bad diskettes in a new package these
: > days (or diskettes that go bad soon after being written to), whereas I
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: Some can be read in any drive.  Some can be read in every drive bar one.
: Some can be read in one drive only.  Some cannot be read, period.
Art - 23 Apr 2004 01:34 GMT
My IBM PCjr with 640 kb's (upgraded from 128 kb's) of memory, a 5.25
low-density floppy drive, an EGA monitor, keyboard and joystick.  It
is great for old games and fun to use for programming in BASIC.

: > I agree....I find quite a lot of bad diskettes in a new package these
: days (or diskettes that go bad soon after being written to), whereas I
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: Larry
glee - 23 Apr 2004 04:14 GMT
Oh, please don't make me go upstairs!  ;-)
Actually, there is an old Apple-compatible up there with no hard drive,and two 5.25" floppy drives, and a 286 PC with a 5.25" drive....plus, as Hugh suggested, the cannibalized drives and those sitting on the shelf with the rest of the recycled parts.
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> > I agree....I find quite a lot of bad diskettes in a new package these
> days (or diskettes that go bad soon after being written to), whereas I
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> Larry
Menno Hershberger - 23 Apr 2004 05:56 GMT
My stuff is in the basement! I've got an Atari like 850XL or something...
I'm not going down to look. Still works though, but the picture on the TV
screen is a little fuzzy.  I'm sure I have at least 3 5-1/4" disk drives
down there, and I have a currently running 98 machine with one installed
in it. People have had me copy stuff off some of those old 5-1/4" disks
and put them on 3-1/2's for them. I have about 50 old 5 1/4" disks with
my own stuff on them from way back.

> Oh, please don't make me go upstairs!  ;-)
> Actually, there is an old Apple-compatible up there with no hard
> drive,and two 5.25" floppy drives, and a 286 PC with a 5.25"
> drive....plus, as Hugh suggested, the cannibalized drives and those
> sitting on the shelf with the rest of the recycled parts.

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Menno Hershberger - 22 Apr 2004 21:24 GMT
> "Larry" <larry328@att.net> wrote in news:OIhGI38JEHA.3592
> @TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
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>    Actually, I think it gets worse over the years. Back in about
> 1998....
   
    Uh, make that 1988... :-)

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Art - 23 Apr 2004 01:37 GMT
I think the 3.5 drive is one of the cheapest components in modern day
computers and the computer manufactures do not expect it to be used
very much.

: > "Larry" <larry328@att.net> wrote in news:OIhGI38JEHA.3592
: > @TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
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:      Uh, make that 1988... :-)
 
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