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Win98 locks up after processor upgrade to 3.06g P4

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127.0.0.1 - 21 Apr 2004 00:20 GMT
Just upgraded my machines processor from a P4 1.7ghz  to P4 3.06ghz.

Although my motherboard (Abit TH7IIRAID) doesnt offical support the 533fsb I
managed to
get it working using a mulitpler of 23 x 133 FSB and locking the AGP/PCI and
memorys.

Anyway it seems that as soon as windows 98 is loaded and it locks up at the
same place
all the time. I dont think its a program thats loading up as its done it
before any programs
are loaded - asking for the drivers for a device.

I can't work out what is causing the lockups and it works fine in windows
safe mode.

As soon as I put my P4 1.7 in again it works fine (tried this 3 times).

I have windows XP on a removable drive and it works fine... I ran prime95
for 3 hours
and also memtest runs fine on XP. So I think some driver is loading up or
something in windows98
is loading up which doesnt like the P4 3.06 processor.

Is there anyway to find out what driver is causing it to lock up ? I tried
removing devices in
safe mode but when I boot up again it detects them and loads them back up.

My inital guess is it could be the RAID HP370 drivers but its hard to
pinpoint since there are
no conflicts.

Anyone have any idea what it could be or what I can do to track it down ?

TIA
Ron Badour - 21 Apr 2004 00:28 GMT
Although the symptoms are not quite the same, I wonder if this is a player:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=312108

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127.0.0.1 - 21 Apr 2004 00:57 GMT
> Although the symptoms are not quite the same, I wonder if this is a player:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=312108

I think thats only a problem on windows 98.. forgot to mention im using
win98se and AFAIK it
doesnt have this bug.
here_and_there - 21 Apr 2004 00:59 GMT
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Possibly a network device driver - original version cannot handle over
2.2GHz  It's NDIS - read the following
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;312108

If it is not that (which I think you do need), boot to DOS command
line, select the option for a bootlog, then examine bootlog.txt to
find at what point the startup fails.
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 21 Apr 2004 08:28 GMT
So did the network driver fix the problem or is it another
driver or something else?
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127.0.0.1 - 21 Apr 2004 14:18 GMT
> So did the network driver fix the problem or is it another
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Its not NDIS as im using WIN98SE and it doesnt have this bug.

I dont know what it is... and im having to use bloatware XP to type this :(

I tried the bootlog.txt but it freezes here:

InitDone = TSRQuery

[000400FF] Starting Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)

[000400FF] Started Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)

[00040100] Enumerating Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)

[00040100] Enumerated Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)

Terminate = User

Terminate = Query Drivers

EndTerminate = Query Drivers

Terminate = Unload Network

EndTerminate = Unload Network

Terminate = Reset Display

EndTerminate = Reset Display

EndTerminate = User

Not very helpful!!
Tacitus - 21 Apr 2004 02:57 GMT
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Not sure if this applies:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;312108

Win95/98 has problems with 2.1ghz or higher.

Tac
Hugh Candlin - 21 Apr 2004 05:33 GMT
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You may need the NDIS HotFix

Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 312108
Windows Protection Error in NDIS with a CPU That Is Faster Than 2.1 GHz
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;312108

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Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 188867
Troubleshooting Windows 98 Startup Problems
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q188867

Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 186588
Description of the Automatic Skip Driver Agent (Asd.exe) Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;186588

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Greg - 21 Apr 2004 22:19 GMT
  New line of thought couls it be Hyperthreading
 that is causing your problem. I am running a 2.6
 Celeron with no problems yet it'S only 6 Mth old.
 But I ro recall something about Win98-SE and
 Hyperthreading causing wierd problems that is the
 reason we setteled an 3 2.6 machines.
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