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Rob - 24 Oct 2006 08:04 GMT
Trying to figure out something for a friends computer, he is running Windows
98, and Norton AntiVirus 2001, whenever he attempts to do a virus scan, it
will not scan the boot record ot the master boot record while in Windows. It
says the drive is unavailable, but if you do it in DOS it works just fine.
The rest of the scan in Windows works perfectly, unsure of what to do.
Rick Chauvin - 25 Oct 2006 02:00 GMT
I've got v2001 on my 9x partition as well.

I vaguely remember something about that at one time, but will have to think
about it again to remember.

You can always uncheck that option in Options> Manual Scan, Master & Boot
records and retick it, etc...  ...I'm trying to remember what it was though
that would lock them... ..I will sleep on it to remember.

Maybe even a reinstall but that may be overkill just to solve the issue.

nite
Rick

> Trying to figure out something for a friends computer, he is running
> Windows 98, and Norton AntiVirus 2001, whenever he attempts to do a
> virus scan, it will not scan the boot record ot the master boot record
> while in Windows. It says the drive is unavailable, but if you do it in
> DOS it works just fine. The rest of the scan in Windows works perfectly,
> unsure of what to do.
Rob - 25 Oct 2006 03:21 GMT
That would be appreciated

> I've got v2001 on my 9x partition as well.
>
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> > DOS it works just fine. The rest of the scan in Windows works perfectly,
> > unsure of what to do.
Rick Chauvin - 26 Oct 2006 00:16 GMT
> That would be appreciated

besides the suggestion I've already given yesterday..
.my brain is drawing a 'not remember' card today.
I tried to search for some to jog my memory or get some answers, but I
don't have enough time to research it for you, very sorry, however here's a
start for you to ask around at these forums and/or search them to see if
you can get some hits.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=symantec+forum+nav+2001

let us know how you make out.

good luck

Rick
Rob - 26 Oct 2006 02:09 GMT
Thanks for the links, found the info, Symantec problem after def update, lots
of people having it. Can only wait on Symantec. Appreciate the help!

> > That would be appreciated
>
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>
> Rick
Rick Chauvin - 26 Oct 2006 04:19 GMT
> Thanks for the links, found the info, Symantec problem after def update,
> lots of people having it. Can only wait on Symantec. Appreciate the help!

Rob, please give the links in reference to what you found about it.

Rick
Rob - 28 Oct 2006 01:10 GMT
Here is the link to the webpage I found the info on, there are no fixes, but
explains what the problem is and how it came about

http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-software/486946-norton-systemworks-2001-driv
e-access.html


> > Thanks for the links, found the info, Symantec problem after def update,
> > lots of people having it. Can only wait on Symantec. Appreciate the help!
>
> Rob, please give the links in reference to what you found about it.
>
> Rick
Rick Chauvin - 29 Oct 2006 23:39 GMT
Okay thank you for the link Rob.

At first without realizing it when I replied to your original post, my NAV
was also affected, but since I do not inoculate my boot records (option
available on the tab> Options> Other> Inoculation> Inoculate boot records)
..I did not get that error; however the short of it all - when doing a
manual scan it freezes my system in other ways too.

I doubt Symantec will ever fix this whole issue now - actually I think they
made the change to move out 2001 on purpose as a forceplay.
My subscription time was up not long ago anyway.

Because I'm an avid tracker and partition image user I have the
availability and was able to easily isolate what changes were made and
revert just my NAV 2001 back to the last good i32 available which is
20060705-018-i32.exe (intelligent updater package) which this one was just
before they made their changes; however, naturally Symantec made it so that
it was not backwards compatible (meaning you just can install that older
distributeable definition package and have everything be fine again)  I
probably could make a file/registry install and write-up for people to be
able to change their systems back to the July 5th date to be able to work
normal again, however it would be a moot point since going forward they
would increasing be susceptible to new viruses; I won't be a party to that.

I have always used the exceptional NOD32 antivirus on my W2000 & WXP
partitions, and since it works on W98 too I will just install it there.
I only kept NAV2001 on Win98SE because it was one of the last
nice programs that Peter Norton's crew had a hand in that worked really
well, before Symantec took over and completely disgraced every
single thing they touch since then - it's beyond comprehension the
company and support ineptness, not to mention the excessively
clumsy large registry footprint on all their products that still work like
crap, as compared to let's say something like NOD32 footprints simplicity.
It's a no contest.  Goodbye NAV2001, it's been fun while it lasted.

Keep up posted though Rob if you hear anything new, thanks.

Rick

> Here is the link to the webpage I found the info on, there are no fixes,
> but explains what the problem is and how it came about

http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-software/486946-norton-systemworks-2001-driv
e-access.html


>> > Thanks for the links, found the info, Symantec problem after def
>> > update, lots of people having it. Can only wait on Symantec.
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>>
>> Rick
Jonny - 25 Oct 2006 04:07 GMT
Believe such would misidentify such as changes.  If the user wasn't familiar
with such, he or she could wipe out a 3rd party boot manager as an example.
Normally in the mbr.  Similar with a new install of another OS like Win2k or
XP acting as boot manager.  Resident in the partition's boot record instead.
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Jonny

> Trying to figure out something for a friends computer, he is running
> Windows
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> says the drive is unavailable, but if you do it in DOS it works just fine.
> The rest of the scan in Windows works perfectly, unsure of what to do.
 
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