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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / General Topics / November 2006McAfee remnant in startscreen
Hi, I just got the AVGfree anti-virus program up and running :) and so far so good, so I backed up (just in case, even though it is outdated) and then uninstalled my old McAfee 1997 one. However, on startup I am still seeing a short McAfee scan on the top of the screen in MSdos before it goes to Windows98. It just has the McAfee scan file name and then says "bad file name" and goes to C: prompt and then disappears. How can I get it to go away and save time getting to Windows? Thanks, in advance, for advice on this. RVW Try this: Go to Start > Run > type in "miscofig". System configuration Utility pops up: In "Startup", scroll down and see if any McAfee stuff is listed > uncheck (just McAfee) items if there. Do the same with "Win.ini."...... If this doesn't help, ask someone who really knows. lol ... That's MSCONFIG.  SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm > Try this: Go to Start > Run > type in "miscofig". > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > If this doesn't help, ask someone who really knows. lol ... It sure is. Thanx Gary. Hate when someone does that, lol. Sounds like something got left behind in Autoexec.bat, Win.ini, System.ini or Config.sys. A command is being issued to run the McAfee scan, the executable isn't found so it fails and quits trying. Run SYSEDIT from the Start>Run box and review those files for the relevant entry or entries. To disable the line containing the suspected problem command, put a semi-colon at the beginning of the line. Test to see if the problem is fixed. If so, you can remove the line(s) altogether. If you run into a problem booting, use the F8 key during startup to get to the Startup Menu, then choose Safe Mode and undo whatever edit you performed previously. Then look harder. Personally, I'm betting on a line in Autoexec.bat, but only McAfee knows for sure, <s>. Perhaps McAfee has a cleanup utility like the one Norton provides? SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm > Hi, > I just got the AVGfree anti-virus program up and running :) and so far so [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > RVW The orphaned entry should be found in the autoexec.bat file, and the line (or possibly two lines) can be removed using Sysedit. I've forgotten the details of the entry but it calls one of the scan executables in the McAfee program folder, which is no longer there after an uninstall.....hence the bad command message, obviously. I've removed this from a number of autoexec.bat files in the past, after uninstalling McAfee. BTW, there *is* a McAfee clean-up tool, called VSCleanupTool.exe: http://tools.mcafeehelp.com/doc.php?siteid=1&docid=71541&support=ts but it appears to be for McAfee Virus Scan versions 9 and 10, and may not work with the old version the OP refers to. SignatureGlen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ > Sounds like something got left behind in Autoexec.bat, Win.ini, System.ini or > Config.sys. A command is being issued to run the McAfee scan, the executable isn't [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> RVW What a team, ;-) SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm > The orphaned entry should be found in the autoexec.bat file, and the line > (or possibly two lines) can be removed using Sysedit. I've forgotten the [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >>> >>> RVW > I just got the AVGfree anti-virus program up and running :) and so far so > good, so I backed up (just in case, even though it is outdated) and then [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > name" and goes to C: prompt and then disappears. How can I get it to go away > and save time getting to Windows? 1. This looks like a standard DOS error message when a file called (e.g. by a BATch file) is not found in the current filepath. 2. At boot, the error message is prompted by AUTOEXEC.BAT or CONFIG.SYS. But standard implementations of Win98 do not require either. (They can load only DOS apps, most of which Windows overrides.) So REName both as something else and see whether you reboot faster. SignatureDon Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) While that is an OK short term way to find out which file is involved, there are often entries in those files that *are* needed, for language code pages, for instance, or to load certain drivers or other program components. It's really better to view the files' contents and analyze them, then disable specific lines as appropriate. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm >> I just got the AVGfree anti-virus program up and running :) and so far so >> good, so I backed up (just in case, even though it is outdated) and then [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Windows overrides.) So REName both as something > else and see whether you reboot faster. Hi all, Hey, thanks to all for the suggestions! I tried the SYSEDIT and deleted the line in the Autoexec.bat file. The text was gone after that, but a C:\> was still showing up. I was halfway through posting about that when I got kicked of the internet for some reason...grr...anyway, all's well because I went back and closed up the spaces between the lines after the one I had deleted, and now it's all gone except for a blinking curser screen for a few seconds...thanks again Gary and glee! > While that is an OK short term way to find out which file is involved, there > are often entries in those files that *are* needed, for language code pages, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Windows overrides.) So REName both as something > > else and see whether you reboot faster. If that was the *only* line in autoexec.bat, you can delete the entire file. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm > Hi all, > Hey, thanks to all for the suggestions! I tried the SYSEDIT and [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >> > Windows overrides.) So REName both as something >> > else and see whether you reboot faster. > Hey, thanks to all for the suggestions! I tried the SYSEDIT and > deleted the line in the Autoexec.bat file. The text was gone after that, but [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > deleted, and now it's all gone except for a blinking curser screen for a few > seconds...thanks again Gary and glee! To prevent AUTOEXEC.BAT echoing to the screen, make its first line @ECHO OFF SignatureDon Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) Hi Don, The first line in the file is: "C:\PROGRAM~1\GRISOFT\AVGFRE~1\BOOTUP.EXE" I thought putting @ECHO OFF Before it would make the AVG boot scanner screen go invisible, but I tried it and to my surprise it had no effect on it! Hmmm. (And, note to Gary: the file had 11 lines and now has 10 since I took out the Mcafee one.) In hindsight I am not sure if taking out the text saves any time afterall. The blinking curser is there for about 17 seconds after the second Win98 flag screen closes and then the blue screen comes on and then the desktop. I would have to go back and put the Mcafee line in again to check for sure, I guess, to see if there is any time difference. On the lighter side, I could just stare at the ceiling while it is loading, lol. RVW > > Hey, thanks to all for the suggestions! I tried the SYSEDIT and > > deleted the line in the Autoexec.bat file. The text was gone after that, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > screen, make its first line > @ECHO OFF The last few lines in my autoexec.bat.... cls echo. echo. echo. echo. echo This moment of suspense is brought to you by Bill Gates. > Hi Don, > The first line in the file is: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> screen, make its first line >> @ECHO OFF Signature--- A dyslexic man walks into a bra --- ROFL!!! SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm > The last few lines in my autoexec.bat.... > cls [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >>> screen, make its first line >>> @ECHO OFF I doubt that removing that line made much difference in the time lag. *Before* you uninstalled McAfee, perhaps it was longer, but once the target file disappeared, it tried the command, failed, and continued on. What you saw during that brief moment was the try/failure notice. I don't know what else you have going on from Autoexec.bat, but it's typical to see a blank, black screen, with or without a blinking cursor, during some part of the Startup cycle. How long it's there depends on how long your pre-logon startup procedures take. It varies significantly from machine to machine, and whether you see anything or not is immaterial. The splash screen stays in place until something else changes the screen. It all depends on whether whatever is running causes the screen to change or not. I've seen the splash screen stay in place until there's a momentary black screen before the login screen comes up, I've seen the splash screen for a few seconds followed by a minute of black screen, with little difference in the overall time involved. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm > Hi Don, > The first line in the file is: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> screen, make its first line >> @ECHO OFF Gary, Yes, I think that is a good summary. I wont fret about a 17 second delay that may or may not have been there (or may have been longer) before the original Mcafee program was uninstalled. I went to the search site in the post by Hugh Candlin but in my case I don't think changing my IP address is applicable as I have a generic Compaq laptop Presario with no add ons or Ethernet card (?..I don't know what that is) or a PCA card of any kind that I know of. I tried changing them as advised there, just to see, but I couldn't get connected to the server as my settings were on "automatic selection" by the server. Thanks again... RVW > I doubt that removing that line made much difference in the time lag. > *Before* you uninstalled McAfee, perhaps it was longer, but once the target [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > >> screen, make its first line > >> @ECHO OFF How do you connect to the internet? Dial-up? DSL? Cable? A PCMCIA card is a credit-card sized thing that you insert into a slot in the laptop. An Ethernet card is also known as a NIC (Network Interface Card) or a LAN connection. It's for local networking, and required for all except Dial-up machines. Takes a cable with ends that look similar to phone connectors, just wider. Laptop may have one built in, or it may require a PCMCIA card. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm > Gary, > Yes, I think that is a good summary. I wont fret about a 17 second delay [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] >> >> screen, make its first line >> >> @ECHO OFF I have a Dial-up connection and an internal modem in the laptop. There is a slot on the left side somewhat smaller than the drive A: floppy slot, but It has never been used. Maybe that's what that slot is for. My processor is 333 Mhz which is quite slow in comparison to most now. I am probably pushing it faster than it wants to go with some of my programs as it is...lucky it starts at all huh?.. lol. BTW...and sorry to get off thread... but, I downloaded Adobe Reader 5.o.5 from a -gov- site in the UK because I couldn't find it at the adobe site. They sent me the Adobe Flash 9 with it as a package without my knowledge so I went to adobe site and checked minimum requirements and Flash 9 is too much for mine as I thought, so I uninstalled it. The reader 5.x works good tho....so far.. only tried it once to read the AVG owner's manual PDF file/s. RVW ps... I would have liked to type in the UK link but don't know if that is OK to do considering I got more than was advertised.... > How do you connect to the internet? Dial-up? DSL? Cable? > [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > >> >> screen, make its first line > >> >> @ECHO OFF You have it pretty well nailed down. That slot is for PCMCIA cards, you have no Ethernet. Hugh's info doesn't apply. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm >I have a Dial-up connection and an internal modem in the laptop. There is >a [quoted text clipped - 143 lines] >> >> >> screen, make its first line >> >> >> @ECHO OFF On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:10:02 -0800, Rvwinkle <Rvwinkle@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed: >I downloaded Adobe Reader 5.o.5 >from a -gov- site in the UK because I couldn't find it at the adobe site. >They sent me the Adobe Flash 9 with it as a package without my knowledge so I >went to adobe site and checked minimum requirements and Flash 9 is too much >for mine ... Try Foxit Reader 2.0: http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php - Franc Zabkar SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. I don't know whether it can make a 17 second difference, but maybe a Scandisk/Defrag is in order, after removing such a large app as McAfee. Normally, it isn't quite as bad as the following may suggest... I must warn that Scandisk may not do a great job when there is a great one to do... http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/scandisk.htm Therefore, perhaps UNcheck "Automatically fix errors" on it's front screen. It will then ask whether you want each error fixed. If it sounds truly horrible, say "No!", and post the log. The log will be "C:\Scandisk.log". Do not let it constantly restart, either. (When running Scandisk in DOS, there won't be such a box to uncheck. You must "Scandisk /Checkonly", instead. It will write to the same .log. The Auto-Scandisk that runs from DOS after a crash must be set to "Prompt" the bad ones in C:\Windows\Command\Scandisk.ini.) REALLY, in light of all THAT, the BEST thing to do is to have a full system backup to run to! Would you like my list of backup apps? 1. Turn off screen saver (R-Clk Desktop, Properties, Screen Saver-- None) 2. Turn off power management (Control Panel, Power Management-- Always On,Never,Never,Never) 3. Suspend Task Scheduler 4. Disable any permanent internet cable connection, perhaps. 5. Turn off interfering programs. Use "StartupCop" or "EndItAll2" from PCMag (below). Or "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab". Note what is unchecked. Then, go to the General tab & disable the entire Startup Group, by clicking "Selective.." & unchecking "Load Startup...". Reboot. Don't forget to re-enable before the next boot. 6. Use "HDValet" from PCMag, or (a) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete all offline content, OK, OK" (b) "START, Run, %TEMP%", & delete all files that will let you. This will likely be "C:\Windows\Temp". This is best done after a fresh boot, unless you have not seen the message "Reboot to complete this install". 7. Run Scandisk (Thorough, usually w/o write testing. Check all three items under "Scandisk, Advanced button, 'Check files for' box". If you want to be informed as it does a fix, UNcheck "Automatically fix errors" on the front screen, or look inside "C:\Scandisk.log" afterwards.) 8. "START, Run, Defrag /p /details". Apparently, "/p" Defrags the unmovables. The purpose of steps 1-5 is only to prevent constant restarts of Scandisk & Defrag, if you get them; but DEFINITELY turn off the Virus Scanner. Scandisk should be done perhaps once a month, and certainly after every serious crash. Do a Defrag after a sluggish boot or when this says so: http://www.pcmag.com/ 's CrackUp, by Gregory A. Wolking & Bob Flanders. Also, take DiskAction, to determine what is constantly writing to the HDD, which causes the restarts. Take BHOCop & StartupCop too. "DiskAction" reports the last 12 processes that access any partition. It discovered the Microsoft Windows Critical Update Notification tool was accessing my HDD every five minutes. It can be uninstalled in "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs". Then, occasionally, "START, Windows Update" on your own. "BHOCop" found a Browser Helper Object called Wavehelper Class, created by "Wavetop", that was building a monstrosity of an error log called "Logit.txt" in here. "START, Find, F/F, Logit.txt"-- see one? Now, my hard drive is quieter than my mouse. (Of course, I now also have 384 MB RAM, up from an initial 64, eliminating Swap File activity.) http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q287914 Articles about Scandisk http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q286263 Articles about Defrag SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net | Gary, | Yes, I think that is a good summary. I wont fret about a 17 second delay [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] | > >> screen, make its first line | > >> @ECHO OFF > (And, note to Gary: the file had 11 lines and now has 10 since I took out > the Mcafee one.) In hindsight I am not sure if taking out the text saves any [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > On the lighter side, I could just stare at the ceiling while it is > loading, lol. This might help http://groups.google.com/groups?q=hugh+candlin+ip+address+ethernet+mask |
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