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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / General Topics / December 2006Windows NT to XP (home or Pro)
I have an older work PC that has 2000 NT and it is just way to slow. I want to upgrade to XP (either home or pro) and want to know if it is easy to do for someone like me who is tech-challenged? See the below and then ask any future XP questions in an XP ng for specific OS help. I haven't checked the links in awhile to see if any are no longer valid. Upgrading from Previous Versions of Windows http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/matrix.asp Never mind the XP Pro mentioning, the requirements for Home and Pro are basically the same. System Requirements: Windows XP Professional System Requirements http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/sysreqs.asp And to further the process, your hardware/software may not be up to date for XP. You can check by using the upgrade advisor download indirectly here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/upgrading/checkcompat.asp or here directly http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp However I would suggest, if you have a friend with an XP CD you can run the advisor from it, the download is approx. 32MB. or check here by typing in the hardware you want to check: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/upgrading/compat.asp Windows XP Professional Upgrade Center http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/default.mspx Quick Upgrade to Windows XP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/getstarted/installquick.mspx  SignatureBrian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 >I have an older work PC that has 2000 NT and it is just way to slow. I > want to upgrade to XP (either home or pro) and want to know if it is > easy to do for someone like me who is tech-challenged? > I have an older work PC that has 2000 NT and it is just way to slow. I > want to upgrade to XP (either home or pro) and want to know if it is > easy to do for someone like me who is tech-challenged? Do not even think of it!!! XP will be *much* slower so you will be guaranteed to only make things worse... best to cleanup your win2k install Windows XP isn't likely to be noticably faster than Windows 2000. However, the first question to ask is what hardware are you using? Motherboard, RAM and video are the main questions. Frankly, your problems are more likely due to garbage apps running in the background, Registry garbage, and garbage in general (plus disk fragmentation, of course.) First try performing major maintenance, though cleaning up the Registry is really only a task for experts. Personally, I'd simply try a new install. If that doesn't make you happy, then what you *need* is a new computer. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm > I have an older work PC that has 2000 NT and it is just way to slow. I > want to upgrade to XP (either home or pro) and want to know if it is > easy to do for someone like me who is tech-challenged? | Windows XP isn't likely to be noticably faster than Windows 2000. However, | the first question to ask is what hardware are you using? Motherboard, RAM [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | > want to upgrade to XP (either home or pro) and want to know if it is | > easy to do for someone like me who is tech-challenged? And merely in continuation: If one is contemplating upgrading to a newer OS, it might be advisable to think more in line with the newest, Vista, which will be or is supposed to be available in January. [Or is it out now?] XP is already an "old" OS, which will likely receive less attention than the newer from Microsoft. That just makes sense to me. SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ > And merely in continuation: > If one is contemplating upgrading to a newer OS, it might be advisable to >think more in line with the newest, Vista, which will be or is supposed to >be available in January. [Or is it out now?] It's been released to businesses already, but it won't be available to consumers until the end of January. But if you're running Win2000 you have to wonder whether your hardware will support Vista, or even XP. The newer operating systems need faster processors, bigger disks, better video systems. Vista in particular needs a *really* snazzy video adapter. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP (Shell/User) http://members.cox.net/slatteryt Slattery_T@bls.gov | > And merely in continuation: | [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt | Slattery_T@bls.gov Hehe, yeah, such is the "accidental" upgrade process, designed around the newest, with "possible" legacy support for the old.. gotta wonder about this, `course that will not change the course or the outcome... so present 200X and XP systems just may not be "up to par" for the newest OS. Gotta keep the market rolling ... [sigh] SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ > If one is contemplating upgrading to a newer OS, it might be > advisable to think more in line with the newest, Vista, Why would you recommend that he switch to Vista at this very early stage of it's life cycle? Especially given MS's track record with XP and how it took them 2.5 years to "lock it down" while millions of systems became infected and exploited? > > I have an older work PC that has 2000 NT Are you also not aware of Vista's onerous hardware requirements, and that given he has an older PC that it most likely wouldn't run Vista well? I'm not sure of the OP has Windows 2000 or Windows NT based on what he said, but he says it's an older PC. Many published reports indicate that the fraction of existing systems that are Vista-capable are quite low. > XP is already an "old" OS, which will likely receive less > attention than the newer from Microsoft. > That just makes sense to me. Instead of focusing on being a capable and high-performance OS, Vista is instead more preoccupied on media and content rights. Practically every aspect of Vista (right down to hardware drivers) is tied to content and media-protection rights and mechanisms - something that is not necessary for an OS be doing and offers many vulnerabe / exploitable pathways as well as performance and stability issues. While I will have to install and use Vista, just because I'll have to support it, I'm on your side this time, 98 Guy, <g>. Besides, XP still has a few years of support left in it. Two years mainstream support and five years extended support. Plenty of time to wear out a cheap new machine that isn't cutting edge anymore, assuming the OP's current hardware simply won't handle XP. Only thing I can add is that I might wait until XP SP3 is issued before installing XP. The list of post-SP2 Updates is something like 60, now, I think. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm >> If one is contemplating upgrading to a newer OS, it might be >> advisable to think more in line with the newest, Vista, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > not necessary for an OS be doing and offers many vulnerabe / > exploitable pathways as well as performance and stability issues. | While I will have to install and use Vista, just because I'll have to | support it, I'm on your side this time, 98 Guy, <g>. Besides, XP still has a [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] | > not necessary for an OS be doing and offers many vulnerabe / | > exploitable pathways as well as performance and stability issues. Hey. I'm not recommending anything,, just stating the sad state of the computer world. If your going to upgrade a system, and stay with Microsoft products, Vista would be the logical choice. Merely a cursory review of the prior support history of Microsoft is telling. When 95 come out support for Win 3.11 stayed for awhile, but was definitely NOT the main concern. When 98 came out, 95 went to the back burner. When 98SE came out, 98FE went the same way. And when XP came out, 98 SE dried up the same way. So stating "extended support" is available means little in Microsoft's world. Moreover, as 98 guy stated, the "rights" restrictions WILL be the key "feature", and likely stumbling block for many. Vista will also likely hamper tweaks and modifications, and WILL restrict or deny questionable activities. Therefore, as I and others have indicated, thereby the user becomes merely the user, not the controller of their OS. A fancy new machine becomes the functionary of the marketers and the commercial programmers, the OS the proprietary arm of Microsoft. Rather like a mini legislative and judicial branch right there on your desktop or sitting nearby. SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ I've had no problem with Win98 that Extended Support didn't cover completely (when MS support was even involved, aside from the NGs.) Of course, things got better with 98, in part due to us MVPs continually hounding them, <s>. The dates I gave are the dates given at the life-cycle pages. And they are a lot more honest about this, because XP is heavily used in the Enterprise market. Your comparison should be to WinNT and Win2K support, not to the 9x series. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm >> While I will have to install and use Vista, just because I'll have to >> support it, I'm on your side this time, 98 Guy, <g>. Besides, XP [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > mini legislative and judicial branch right there on your desktop or > sitting nearby. | I've had no problem with Win98 that Extended Support didn't cover completely | (when MS support was even involved, aside from the NGs.) Of course, things [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | market. Your comparison should be to WinNT and Win2K support, not to the 9x | series. Oh I'm well aware of the "hounding", and the support which the MVPs have provided beyond the "call of duty". I followed the Win 9X route because there is what most home users can relate to. Moreover, the sad fact of extended support for 98SE revolved around the browser and the changes made within the OS because of that, NOT the OS. When were the last true system updates for 98SE, NOT related to IE 6 installation? And least we forget, there really wasn't a replacement home user OS until the supposed XP Home edition. Which was what? An OS which had so many default settings emplaced that the users were basicly open to even the most inept attacks.. but we wander from the topic of discussion. And yes XP is presently heavily in the Enterprise market; yet the newer, faster, and "copyright protection" VISTA will be used in that market, and soon. As for the Win2K and NT support, looks like they were caught in the cross-fire. SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ | >> While I will have to install and use Vista, just because I'll have to | >> support it, I'm on your side this time, 98 Guy, <g>. Besides, XP [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] | > mini legislative and judicial branch right there on your desktop or | > sitting nearby. As a newcomer here, I have to agree with other posters. We live in a world where the *user* is not considered as *valued* until the sales-transaction has been verified. It doesnt matter whether people here are patted on the head by microsoft, just so long as they *believe* they are being patted. (they are serving a purpose) At the department store end of things, mums & dads dont have the foggiest idea about computers; and if they are *told* by the representive of the store that they *need* to buy Vista, then they will no doubt unwittingly buy it. (thereby creating a huge market to microsofts phone technicians at a designated amount of dollars per call) This isnt a world anymore where anyone would recommend bringing up children, for the children of this generation are already soaking in the greed of corporations without even being aware of it. (coca cola, and the lie of christ ---- mas) As for new OS's, might just as well go out and buy a new car each time the telly tells you that a new model is available.... might as well teach your kids that too. (or, you could fly to ethiopia and *assist* problems,... all for much less than the price of an OS from microsoft) just two bobs worth.... for what its worth. Ian H > As for new OS's, might just as well go out and buy a new car > each time the telly tells you that a new model is available... There are really 2 issues here. One is - what does Micro$loth depend on when it comes to gaining market acceptance or how does it engineer a transition to a new OS (like Vista). The other is - what really does the new OS offer (good and bad). This issue is always clouded by the fact that MS's business model requires it to release a new OS every 2.5 years regardless if there is a market need or real technical innovation behind it. People can drive 7 year old cars these days without feeling that their car is (visibly) old - and car makers NEVER market new cars by comparing them to older models in use. I think it's pretty clear that the transition to a new OS is heavily tied into the sales of new PC's - aided by the incestuous relationship between Milkro$oft and the brand-name computer manufacturers and retailers. It will be interesting to see in the next few months if Dell, Gateway, HP, etc, will offer XP and Vista for new machines, or will it just be Vista? As for the other point - just what does the new OS offer, well, with XP it's been like a case of "the emperor has no clothes". People were sold a bill of goods about the benefits of XP, and in the end there's really nothing that an XP machine can do that a 98se machine can't - with the exception of being vulnerable to dozens of security exploits. I believe that Vista's extreme preoccupation with multi-media license rights is Macro$oft's way to instill some sort of respect or anti-piracy mindset into computer users that they feel will ultimately lead to a reduction in pirated use of MS software in the future. I can't see any other reason for it - since MS doesn't (to my knowledge) own any media companies (TV, movie, music, etc) so it's hard to see what stake they have at hardening Vista against unlicensed or pirated multimedia compatibility. Unless MS plans in the near future to buy a movie, music, or TV studio or network? |
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