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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / General Topics / March 2007ThankYou Mac page at WinUP site?
I can't be the only one looking at the Thank You for showing an interest in Windows you Macintosh user page can I? Anybody seen RoBear lately? We need an insider to tell them that they broke Win98 access on Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 3:17:02 PM when they changed to the new redirect.js file at the WinUp sites. Catalog site too. Hmm...what's a 'ThanksVistaV4Catalog' from inside the new redirect.js file? Can anybody get in or is it a total lockout? I can't believe it's almost midnight and nobody else has posted on the subject. Am I really that lucky - all afternoon chasing my tail all alone? Since about 3:17:02 as well... Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site. This website is designed to work with Microsoft Windows operating systems only. To find updates for Microsoft products that are designed for Macintosh operating systems, please visit http://www.microsoft.com/mac/. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, well perhaps Microsoft truly has ended ALL support for 98,, hope everyone has the files by now...  SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ | I can't be the only one looking at the Thank You for showing an | interest in Windows you Macintosh user page can I? Anybody seen [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | really that lucky - all afternoon chasing my tail all alone? Since | about 3:17:02 as well... I do, and I'm making CDs for anyone for the price of shipping. Up to you to figure out the order of installation, though. Well, almost anyone. There *are* a few people on my SL. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User > Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > | really that lucky - all afternoon chasing my tail all alone? Since > | about 3:17:02 as well... I don't see the same at the update or catalog site. Update site: No critical updates are available now, however you do have other updates yada yada ( which I never wanted.) Catalog site: Critical Updates and Service Packs (78), Additional Windows Downloads (1) and Internet and Multimedia Updates (1). Active "Go to download basket" button as well as the "Add" buttons for each download. Howsa bout dat, 5 Criticals for my 98SE in VPC2K7. SignatureBrian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 >I do, and I'm making CDs for anyone for the price of shipping. Up to you to figure >out the order of installation, though. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> | really that lucky - all afternoon chasing my tail all alone? Since >> | about 3:17:02 as well... What's a VPC2K7? I'm at 1.5.0_07 Sun Java but version 1.5.0_11 is available according to javatester.org site. What's your version? MEB and I seem to need it. Any other reason you can think of why you get in and we can't? I've run into the wall at this point and am all out of ideas. > I don't see the same at the update or catalog site. > Update site: No critical updates are available now, however you do have other [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > What's a VPC2K7? I'm at 1.5.0_07 Sun Java but version 1.5.0_11 is > available according to javatester.org site. What's your version? MEB > and I seem to need it. Virtual PC 2007 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx (build 1.5.0_10-b03) > Any other reason you can think of why you get in and we can't? I've > run into the wall at this point and am all out of ideas. Try emptying out your Temp, TIF and Cookie folders. SignatureBrian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 >> I don't see the same at the update or catalog site. >> Update site: No critical updates are available now, however you do have other [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - Thanks Brian, this isn't going to be easy or pretty at all. I've done all the advise from everybody in this thread except Gary's 53 meg download of Sun Java 6. In the mean time I've installed IE 6.00 SP1, Sun Java 1.5.0_11. I've uninstalled MSJVM, SunJava 1.5.0_07 and retro graded WSH back to 5.6.6625 by customizing the installation inf file for scr56en.cab for IE6. All these in some form or another done so attempts could be made to find out what is the one thing that makes a difference and there is none so that you would notice. None. Sometimes I can get to WinUP, sometimes when I get to WinUP it shows text based site and/or fully/partial standard site graphics. If I leave the standard WinUP site instance open and open in a new window of the Catalog site, then I stand a much better chance of not getting the V6 - kiss off page in the new IE window. But I also can get text based Catalog page or rarely a normal looking Catalog page. BUT it doesn't work, when I click on 'Additional Windows Updates (1)' which I know to contain only Games.cab file, the text for it won't show - All I get is a non-working Read More link and the Add button. I've noticed lately that sometimes I get the same sort of text based looking knowledge base articles. I had a week of troubles when the V4 WinUp and Catalog site first became active but none at all since then until I tried it again yesterday. No solution for now I guess, thanks again. > > What's a VPC2K7? I'm at 1.5.0_07 Sun Java but version 1.5.0_11 is > > available according to javatester.org site. What's your version? MEB [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > Thanks Brian, this isn't going to be easy or pretty at all. I've done > all the advise from everybody in this thread except Gary's 53 meg [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > attempts could be made to find out what is the one thing that makes a > difference and there is none so that you would notice. None. ~At the moment I'm still at..... jre-1_5_0_10-windows-i586-p.exe ...anyway Lee they are only 16 mb - you don't need the developers 50 mb version in any way, wth! Click from the Windows (Offline Installation) download button here: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp ~Also running v5,6,0,8825 MS version of scr56en.exe ..iow, I don't understand why you are editing it at all.. ! ..since it's fine on IE6 in the first place. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A8A18F6-249C-4A72-BFCF -FC6AF26DC390&displaylang=en > Sometimes I can get to WinUP, sometimes when I get to WinUP it shows > text based site and/or fully/partial standard site graphics. If I > leave the standard WinUP site instance open and open in a new window > of the Catalog site, then I stand a much better chance of not getting > the V6 - kiss off page in the new IE window. But I also can get text I'm trying to visualize what you mean here - I wish I could see it.. screenshot? And upload your screenshot here for free and share the link so we can see what you mean. http://imageshack.us/ or here http://tinypic.com/ ..both places are free, no signup needed, free! > based Catalog page or rarely a normal looking Catalog page. BUT it > doesn't work, when I click on 'Additional Windows Updates (1)' which I > know to contain only Games.cab file, the text for it won't show - All > I get is a non-working Read More link and the Add button. > > I've noticed lately that sometimes I get the same sort of text based Once in a while I get that too.. > looking knowledge base articles. I had a week of troubles when the V4 > WinUp and Catalog site first became active but none at all since then > until I tried it again yesterday. No solution for now I guess, thanks > again. I wish I could see what you were getting since it's hard to visualize what you are seeing, but I know one thing for sure, you need to have a few things in your Internet Zone Options set right or it won't work. IE6 - One thing is slide your cookies slide bar down to medium, and next check to make sure you also have each one of these options set Enabled ! ..or it won't work right! ~Download ActiveX controls (most people don't realize this one along with the next) ~Run ActiveX controls and plugins ~Script ActiveX controls marked safe for scripting ~Userdata Persistence (most people don't realize this one too) ~Active Scripting Rick See if the below helps out. It's the 4th one up from the bottom of the first category here: http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/troubleshoot/ When attempting to access the Windows Update Web site you receive the following message: Thank You -- you must be running a Microsoft windows operating system in order to use windows update SignatureBrian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > Thanks Brian, this isn't going to be easy or pretty at all. I've done > all the advise from everybody in this thread except Gary's 53 meg [quoted text clipped - 116 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - | Thanks Brian, this isn't going to be easy or pretty at all. I've done | all the advise from everybody in this thread except Gary's 53 meg [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] | until I tried it again yesterday. No solution for now I guess, thanks | again. Apparently everyone has forgotten that many people, like myself and you, have not done the Java update, do not dual boot [which may now be part of the check or relate in some fashion, showing a supported OS], or other potentials such as running in VPC, which rather obviously, would be detectable. Our systems previously worked fine at the updates site, and the change causing the problem was done BY Microsoft, not us. I found, upon your notification, exactly what you posted. Unlike you, I would never have noticed it, because I have the files downloaded locally, with the iuhist.xml properly set out for potential reinstallation in the future for this particular setup. I also have two or three other potential future setups prepared, from and/or for other system configurations. Regardless of the actual problem, if one does not download the files and prepare for complete support pull-down from Microsoft [save the files located somewhere on Microsoft], one will likely find themselves forced to use some pre-prepared updates file from some other site in the not so distant future. Continuing forward without doing this, is like ignorant bliss, nice while it lasts, but hell to pay when it collapses. We [myself in particular] have discussed this future factor several times in this group previously, and set out exactly how to acheive successful installations in the future from your own files. Here's one of the prior postings: From: "MEB" <meb@not real@hotmail.com> References: <eREQaIBjGHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> <eTrD07LjGHA.2220@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <uj16CYfjGHA.412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> Subject: Re: Installing Updates Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:10:53 -0400 Message-ID: <uhmUJDrjGHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:807504 > I meant how would I know which of the critical I updates I need. Right now I > can click the "scan" button on the windows update page and then get a list > of the updates I need to install. > In the future (after July) if I do a reinstall of Windows how do I know then > which updates need to be installed? > I looked at > "C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4\iuhist.xml" and > "C:\%windir%\Windows Update.log" > both show "lists" that you really have to carefully sort out in order not to > miss any of the updates. > Once I have everything sorted out how do I find the particular updates, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks > AJS You answered to Pa Bear but indicated an attempt at my suggestion so: Let's look at a segment of an update log for info..[Note dates and times have been removed. Also note I attempted to make this fit into the message area.] Dates will give you an indication of the order of installation, times might give you an indication of Microsoft's installation order as listed on it's servers. Note also that Microsoft is distinctly concerned that it's browser be installed FIRST and it's updates, which makes sense as it is the flawed and exploitable interface to the Internet..so skip those files if not installing IE 6 and OE, or the other browsers and OE. WINDOWS UPDATE.LOG Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/consumerdrivers/getmanifest.asp Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Download started Success IUENGINE Download destination root folder is: c:\WUTemp Here's the long name as Microsoft adds a file from it's server Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/ msdownload/update/v3-19990518/ cabpool/IE6.0sp1-KB905915-Windows-98-ME-x86-ENU_048d87801990caa1902294e650e2 9d8.exe Here's the short name which you should have a copy of, if you downloaded to your disk (look at the last segment where I added quotes) Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.905915_IE_6_SP1_x86_169934_IExpress\"IE6.0sp1-KB9059 15-Windows-98-ME-x86-ENU.exe" Which I have saved locally as: C:\UPGRADES\Microsoft\Win95-98\98 updates\IE_6_OE\IE6.0sp1-KB905915-Windows-98-ME-x86-ENU.exe Note that the file itself indicates that it is for IE6, hence a file I will not use in the future. If you want additional information on the file you can querry Microsoft for the KB or Q number and read what it does and what it's for. Save a copy locally for future reference. Here's an indication this file should be installed seperately OR that the application is not installed fully [Media 9 was installed but had NOT been allowed to register itself] ERROR IUENGINE Downloading file http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/ cabpool/WindowsMedia9-KB911565-Win9x-x86-ENU_8d1eeee2307201b8c45b3092eaa33f2 .exe, skipping remaining files for this Item Note it says skipping other files for this.. an indication this file should be installed on its own or could not be installed at that time.. Starting a new segment at updates shows it was later installed: Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/ cabpool/WindowsMedia9-KB911565-Win9x-x86-ENU_8d1eeee2307201b8c45b3092eaa33f2 .exe Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WindowsMedia9-Windows98ME-KB911565-x86-176321\ WindowsMedia9-KB911565-Win9x-x86-ENU.exe Let's look at another: Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/ cabpool/Windows98-KB908519-ENU_5a83ea1360d1ebaa28c9b8bd1b389f9.EXE Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Windows98-KB908519-x86-174228\Windows98-KB908519-ENU .EXE Saved locally as: C:\UPGRADES\Microsoft\Win95-98\98 updates\Windows98-KB908519-ENU.EXE This file indicates it is a system or possible system file update. My saved text file: C:\UPGRADES\Microsoft\Win95-98\98 updates\Windows98-KB908519_11-27-2005_t2embed.txt indicates it is the t2embed fix. Now let's look at some dates and times [this particular testing computer was recently run through the configuration / updates process for data base comparison]: 2006-03-20 07:32:44 12:32:44 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/ update/v3-19990518/cabpool/ 260067_888B94B8824DAA55DA83EFF12FA9A844EAE368DD.EXE 2006-03-20 07:32:44 12:32:44 Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.q260067_98SE_3662\260067.EXE Well the update log suggest we check iuhist.xml so let's do so for this file - Searching iuhist we find [and yes if one intends to use iuhist one must make it readable so....]: IUHIST.XML <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-03-20T07:34:54"> <identity itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition .ver_platform_win32_windows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft. q260067_98se_3662.4_10_0_2222" name="q260067_98SE_3662"> <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName> <language>en</language> </identity> <description hidden="0"> <descriptionText> <title>Mapped Drives Shutdown Update</title> <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm"/> <details href="http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/ v3/static/rtf/en/3662.htm"/> </descriptionText> </description> <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows"> <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture> <version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor="" servicePackMinor=""/> </platform> <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE"/> <downloadPath>c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.q260067_98SE_3662</downloadPath> <client>IU_Site</client> <installStatus value="COMPLETE" needsReboot="1"/> </itemStatus> So we see the time stamps / download time and dates match, we have the right version, and it needs to be rebooted.. We also see that both 98 AND 98SE need this update [see <identity itemID]. We also see that it was the Mapped Drives Shutdown Update [see <title>]. By comparing both the update log and iuhist we can approximately determine when the file should be installed, and whether it should be installed. IUHIST shows the order installed in reverse, unless I have missed something. We can also use the KB and Q info from Microsoft to determine the date of release and order of installation. Does this help? Copyright Maurice Edward, Brahier http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ > | > ...So far the Windows Update site has an option to scan the computer > | > and detect which of the updates I need. But once this site becomes > | > unavailable how would I know? > | -- > | ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > | MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org > | > | AJS wrote: SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ | > > What's a VPC2K7? I'm at 1.5.0_07 Sun Java but version 1.5.0_11 is | > > available according to javatester.org site. What's your version? MEB [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] | > | > - Show quoted text - <snip> > Does that help? <snip> Nope, sorry but I don't suscribe to the 'order' theory at all to start with. Version a update and version b update run in any order result in version b dll file installed every time. No need to reinvent the wheel or make matters complicated or abuse Usenet, it's a pretty simple concept, just run the updates. I do have all the files on hard drive from the Catalog site BTW so no worries here, thanks. As I type this, MS keeps swapping out redirect.js files at the WinUP sites. About three this PM it was still not working for me, but at 7 it did. At that time the redirect.js had a modified date of october last, and since then I get Thursday, February 22, 2007, 4:56 PM which is the one that wasn't working for me yesterday either. I did get through using IE 5.50 SP2 with the latest WSH using this url which I never seen before. http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us Seems a bit bizarre to use a V6 url when that's the very Kiss off one I am trying to avoid but I got to V4 WinUP site first try using it about 7 PM. Things went from better to worse until I finally got this text based WinUP site for to show Rick Chauvin: http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=winup3wv7.png So I'm about done with all this - thanks for all the suggestions guys but as long as MS is still working on it, I can't complain too loud. And they are so I won't. | <snip> | > Does that help? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | I do have all the files on hard drive from the Catalog site BTW so no | worries here, thanks. Huh, abuse USENET? What the heck are you talking about? Glad you have the files, hope everyone does; and has some plan for future updates, whatever they are. As for order of installation: whatever seems to work for you. My routine is quite different, and comes from years of trial and error usage, and servicing other's computers and networks. | As I type this, MS keeps swapping out redirect.js files at the WinUP | sites. About three this PM it was still not working for me, but at 7 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | never seen before. | http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us That one is interesting, as that was never Win98. | Seems a bit bizarre to use a V6 url when that's the very Kiss off one | I am trying to avoid but I got to V4 WinUP site first try using it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | but as long as MS is still working on it, I can't complain too loud. | And they are so I won't. Complain? Likely the complaints that got this fixed, came from people using authorized and supported versions of other Microsoft products. I doubt seriously that if just 98 users complained it would have much effect at all. However, that's just my opine. SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ > "Lee" <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote in message > > Huh, abuse USENET? What the heck are you talking about? That mile long repost of another message which is kinda like one of PCR's master posts for which he just gets kidded about but really should be snipped out of some of the messages in a thread at least SOME. Come on you guys, this stuff is being saved for posterity by Google and you are too lazy to care or snip/use links? Especially when messages in a thread devolve into trading one liners... > Glad you have the files, hope everyone does; and has some plan for future > updates, whatever they are. > > As for order of installation: whatever seems to work for you. My routine is > quite different, and comes from years of trial and error usage, and > servicing other's computers and networks. Me too, sans the network stuff. I was all set to release a methodology on how to save to disk all the MS updates from the old V3 WinUP site when MS changed their feathers completely and allowed that very thing for the first time EVER in history via the V4 Catalog. I had a complete, up to date collection of MS updates for Win98 saved to disk BEFORE the V4 WinUP site ever launched!! If I might have had 6 months lead time, my bottom line might still have shown a difference to this day. So I believe the difference in stance comes from basic philosophy differences. You are out to quantify all aspects possible at all times and I'm out to do that only when it's actually neccessary. > | As I type this, MS keeps swapping out redirect.js files at the WinUP > | sites. About three this PM it was still not working for me, but at 7 [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. > _______________ I don't believe _any_ complaints got MS up and working on this issue, it's just a matter of keeping house as per usual I'm sure. My first post mentioned a V4 Vista Catalog which is likely what MS is trying to bring online with the new script file 'redirect.js' at the WinUP site. As in the past, MS will try this script and then that one until they all work for all the platforms that they are supposed to without any input from us at all. I was hoping to put a bug into RoBear's ear that there was something amiss at the sight so that he might do the same for the (echo) Keepers of the WinUP Script (/echo). He has been able to do that before on rare occasion as unlike me, he won't get ignored by them so completely as you or I would. But silly me, I jumped the gun after just 8 hours of WTF?, a lesson we could all learn. I'll assume since Rick Chauvin didn't mention that he couldn't see my post at imageshack that in fact he DID, which means that it's probably there for everybody else too. I wouldn't know that for sure because I'm the one that put it there and I might have special access to it as I have run into that before. Glad to know posting that wasn't a waste of time, but I sure wish I could have saved the one where I had empty Add boxes as it was way freaky to see. I'm also very glad it's not an IE 6 vs IE 5.50 SP2 issue as I'm still not ready to give up on IE 5.50 SP2 just yet. |> "Lee" <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote in message |> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | should be snipped out of some of the messages in a thread at least | SOME. Some, maybe -- but only JUST a few or less -- EVEN after the thread has degraded to just "one liners"..! | Come on you guys, this stuff is being saved for posterity by Google | and you are too lazy to care or snip/use links? Especially when [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] | differences. You are out to quantify all aspects possible at all | times and I'm out to do that only when it's actually neccessary. I would strive to run them in the order issued, except for the ones that were superceded-- IF I could figure what those were just by looking at them in my WU store!. |> | As I type this, MS keeps swapping out redirect.js files at the |> | WinUP sites. About three this PM it was still not working for me, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] |> |> That one is interesting, as that was never Win98. SUDDENLY, I am AGAIN redirected to... http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/thanks.aspx?ln=en-us&thankspage=2& ...when I try any of... http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp ...or even that V6 URL. Yesterday I was miraculously cured! Well, let's see what happens tomorrow. ODD, nothing appears in,,, C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update.log ...not even the error message I got day before yesterday -- NOTHING for 2007-02-27 at all -- where that first day I got a few...!... .....Quote.......... 2007-02-24 16:03:32 21:03:32 Error IUCTL Library download error. Will retry. (Error 0x80070002: The system cannot find the file specified.) .....EOQ............. I GUESS those were a coincidence-- as there weren't as many as tries to connect that day, anyhow! |> | Seems a bit bizarre to use a V6 url when that's the very Kiss off |> | one I am trying to avoid but I got to V4 WinUP site first try [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] | they all work for all the platforms that they are supposed to without | any input from us at all. I HOPE they don't think it's over & done & all is well now! Today it ain't! | I was hoping to put a bug into RoBear's ear | that there was something amiss at the sight so that he might do the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | jumped the gun after just 8 hours of WTF?, a lesson we could all | learn. I HOPE PA Bear hasn't gone back into an hibernation! After all, those groundhogs didn't go back in, DID THEY? | I'll assume since Rick Chauvin didn't mention that he couldn't see my | post at imageshack that in fact he DID, which means that it's probably [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | IE 6 vs IE 5.50 SP2 issue as I'm still not ready to give up on IE 5.50 | SP2 just yet. I'm pretty sure, if Chauvin saw it, it must be there. But what was the URL? SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net ...snip | SUDDENLY, I am AGAIN redirected to... http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/thanks.aspx?ln=en-us&thankspage=2& | ...when I try any of... | | http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp | http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp But now it's working again! All I can say is... last thing I did was... to close AND reopen OE. That's right, Outlook Express. Then, Windows Update worked again. It didn't help to wipe... C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate ...of all BUT the V4 folder & the two .xml files inside. It didn't help to just close OE. It likely is just a coincidence, but, after reopening that, all is well. This time, I didn't start OEQuoteFix first, but likely that was a coincidence too. > http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=winup3wv7.png Hi Lee, yes I did see your png screenshot you uploaded to imageshack and gave us the link, and I posted back that I did see it. Is that what you meant? I wanted to tell you though to give us the bottom imageshack link so that we don't see the extra bottom add stuff, iow, after you upload an image and they give you many different links to choose from, please copy the very bottom link that's called "Direct link to image" and copy it and that's the one to always use so that's it's just your picture and nothing else. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your screenshots information is clear and a picture tells a thousand words, but I've never seen that particular webpage look like that and I cannot tell you why it did for you. Now as PCR says for him, and today for me too, no matter which link I click I see this webpage: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5015/mac2dp3.gif I just see PCR just made a new post saying that his is now working 30 minutes later, but fwiw, I still get what I show in my link above.. Yesterday when you all said it wouldn't work for you - it did for me ...go figure. It must be from where were are accessing the website directs us differently at any one time. Rick |> http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=winup3wv7.png | [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] | ...go figure. It must be from where were are accessing the website | directs us differently at any one time. And it's still working right now-- at 4:19 PM -- twice in a row, even! Could be as you suggest & as I've heard before that some kind of sub-server is responsible. That is, we don't necessarily get to the same place the same way each time we click the same URL, if I've understood that correctly. But, clearly it is an MS server problem or something on their end, as PA Bear reports it is happening to ME folk too-- not just to Win98! Also, the situation is intermittent in nature for the same people. | Rick SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net | > "Lee" <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote in message | > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | and you are too lazy to care or snip/use links? Especially when | messages in a thread devolve into trading one liners... Debated whether I should even respond to this. but yeah I will. Read it all before you get peeved. We, and in particular myself, know full well these things are saved upon Google's vast data base. Tell me something I don't know. However, you apparently fail to consider, that the same style of questions are constantly repeated in all of the Forums and News groups, over and over again. What is generally found across the Forums/News Groups is, eventually, common questions and corresponding answers are collected by the standard posters, or the originator of the posting, and these are used and posted upon occassion to negate constantly re-typing the same old answers to the same old questions. To provide the relevance, a basis HAS to be included. That requires a foundation, e.g., the relationship to potential questions. OTOH, there are those who do constantly re-type the information, though that brings the problem of a potential failure/error. One generally spends more time creating/supplying the original answer, whereas, redundant questions may get less attention. AHHA, you say, that's my [your] point, use Google's referencing. Of course, you personally, may actually do the proper googling/searching for your answers, good for you. Others, however, come to the respective Forum/answer group for their Q&A. Go ahead, search generally or specifically in any forum or on Google, this is what you'll find. Certain People, at times, want or need personalized "hand holding" or guidance, or may come up with something they think is unique. Does it matter that the issues are constantly rehashed? Not really; don't want to read them, then don't. That happens to be one of the few things you can still control in your own life. Better yet, search for ANY type of information or answer, and you'll likely find several hundred thousand hits for any given question and several thousand more search results for the various search variables associated with ANY GIVEN question. Then check the other lesser, or private search engines for those same answers and information. So here's your new job: since you've apparently assigned yourself as the net's nanny: You will need to personally go to all the sites and tell them the question answered upon their site has already been answered by "suchandsuch" at "whatever" address. Tell them to pull down their redundant information. When you've done with those several million sites, then go to all the various Forums and discussion groups and tell them the same thing. While your at it, advise all those parties of the copyright infringements that they are in violation of. That's your new job as the self-assigned Internet Guru on proper information/net cleanup and the supposed USENET abuse, that you think this is or was. When you get that done, you will then need to create the master informational pages with all the proper links to the exact answers with all the infinate search terms that might be used, so Google, MSN/Microsoft, Yahoo, and the dozens of other search engines, can use their servers for more poignant information. Let me know when your done so I can add your master informational site to my site's search page. I think you'll likely have some difficulty with that beyond the sheer impossibility; these search engines will be losing money, so you'll likely be semi-politely informed to stop. Moreover, your master site will be filled with nothing of value beyond links to information; one the several hundred thousand of those types of sites now on the net. I appreciate though, your right to make your statement. But it fails to address other users rights and needs. | > Glad you have the files, hope everyone does; and has some plan for future | > updates, whatever they are. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] | differences. You are out to quantify all aspects possible at all | times and I'm out to do that only when it's actually neccessary. Yep, I've got the files for: 95 A, B, and C; 98 and 98SE; XP PRO; MSDOS thru 6.22; CP/M; Red Hat Linux [one specific version with all the RPMs I thought were the best]; Xenix [Harris/Lanier], and several other OS/systems and files. WHY I have them is the unanswerable question. Therefore it becomes a "Perhaps, perhaps not". My suggestions came as the results of several years of servicing computers and networks. But as usual YMMV. | > | As I type this, MS keeps swapping out redirect.js files at the WinUP | > | sites. About three this PM it was still not working for me, but at 7 [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] | bring online with the new script file 'redirect.js' at the WinUP | site. As we both noted. | As in the past, MS will try this script and then that one until | they all work for all the platforms that they are supposed to without [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | jumped the gun after just 8 hours of WTF?, a lesson we could all | learn. That's true, Robear does have connections we don't have. Moreover, is leavaging his weight around to get it fixed, ONE MORE TIME. But then even that will likely end sometime. So you came here to complain about an unsupported OS hoping to find Robear so he could apply preasure. Okay, that's your right, maybe it worked. The question is, why would Microsoft be screwing with V4? If it is only for Win98/ME users or to continue to supply files to those users, there never needs to be a change, as any change would have to be designed around the last official Microsoft activities and how the OSs were left at support end, which means V4 is static. That will never officially change, ever. Now, OTOH, if the base server coding was changed and the Microsoft supported OSs have no issue with that change; Microsoft has no present responsibility to modify that code to work with the unsupported OSs. So again, this is a repeated complaint concerning an unsupported OS, which, under your terms, would be an abuse of the USENET. Time to pull your head from the clouds and realize what that actually means. Then ask yourself these questions: Why are you still using WINUPDATE for your systems if [as you have presented] you supposedly no longer need it? and, Why would you think you should have the ability to complain when anything on Microsoft doesn't work with your unsupported OS? Then realize: WE, the users of the OSs, are now the unofficial support, and the ONLY reliable support. So whether you like it or not, I'll continue to place my attempts to inform the users of the 98 OS what works for me, what I have found through research, and otherwise answer their questions individually (in short answer or long) if that's what is required. I presume everyone else on this forum will as well. You think its abuse; submit the complaint to the proper parties. | I'll assume since Rick Chauvin didn't mention that he couldn't see my | post at imageshack that in fact he DID, which means that it's probably [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | IE 6 vs IE 5.50 SP2 issue as I'm still not ready to give up on IE 5.50 | SP2 just yet. Yeah, suppose that would have been interesting to someone. Use whatever suits your purposes, though realize that IE6 and IE5 have exploitable holes and flaws, so using them for anything OTHER THAN contact with Microsoft/MSN is not very smart IMO. Well, if you've read all this BEFORE responding, I'm sure you may see that the point is made. No reply is necessary, as each of us chooses our own method of use on the Internet. Good luck with your continued usage. SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ [...] > http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=winup3wv7.png [...] That's interesting isn't it, but since we know it's them I won't worry about it. Rick VPC2K7 = Virtual PC 2007 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=04D26402-3199-48A3-AFA2 -2DC0B40A73B6&displaylang=en TinyURL = http://tinyurl.com/287fx8 Get Java Runtimes 6 here: https://sdlc6e.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=C1B20190C198A76A5F3CA67 A4548D080 TinyURL = http://tinyurl.com/3a5aa2 I'd want the very first item, "Windows Offline Installation, Multi-language jdk-6-windows-i586.exe 53.16 MB", but you can try the second if you're on limited bandwidth and don't want to include all the languages. Note that you MUST uninstall all previous versions for safety's sake and to prevent confusion. Do that from Add/Remove Programs, then also delete the Java folder from C:\Programs Files -- THEN install the download. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User > What's a VPC2K7? I'm at 1.5.0_07 Sun Java but version 1.5.0_11 is > available according to javatester.org site. What's your version? MEB [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - > Any other reason you can think of why you get in and we can't? I've > run into the wall at this point and am all out of ideas. The most likely reason that I can think of is that you are not using Microsoft's Internet Explorer, which is required. > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, well perhaps Microsoft truly has ended > ALL support for 98,, hope everyone has the files by now... So MS is equating 98 with Mac? Is that their way of insulting Mac? Anyways, try this: http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp Go nuts and download while you can... Compare the count there (40) to Brian's count of 80 available from WU Catalog. Guess where I got my stash... SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User >> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, well perhaps Microsoft truly has ended >> ALL support for 98,, hope everyone has the files by now... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Go nuts and download while you can... I only mention what was showing without scrolling, there were 169 updates total and IIRC 43 were Multi-lingual which I don't need and didn't download. SignatureBrian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > Compare the count there (40) to Brian's count of 80 available from WU Catalog. > Guess where I got my stash... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> Go nuts and download while you can... An I *think* I have them all, but not sure about all multilingual stuff. Gonna make sure pretty soon, and burn them to CD a few times more. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User > I only mention what was showing without scrolling, there were 169 updates > total and IIRC 43 were Multi-lingual which I don't need and didn't [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>> >>> Go nuts and download while you can... How many here are (still) seeing the error message quoted in MEB's post? Some of us are discussing this "elsewhere" [that's a hint, GAry] and need a body count. Win ME users have been seeing the same thing, too. Nothing definitive to tell you at this point. Signature~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) > Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> really that lucky - all afternoon chasing my tail all alone? Since >> about 3:17:02 as well... | How many here are (still) seeing the error message quoted in MEB's | post? Today it was busted again. Then, it worked again, as I posted to myself above. When it doesn't work, nothing shows up in ""Windows Update.log"". After that, believe it or not, it failed AGAIN to work... but turns out the NetZero connection went bad, looks like. After a reboot & re-establishing the connection all is well again, even with OEQuotefix running... .......Quote.............. Welcome to Windows Update Get the latest updates available for your computer's operating system, software, and hardware. Windows Update scans your computer and provides you with a selection of updates tailored just for you. .......EOQ................ But I hesitate to try again! There no new updates for me, anyhow. | Some of us are discussing this "elsewhere" [that's a hint, GAry] and | need a body count. Win ME users have been seeing the same thing, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] |>> really that lucky - all afternoon chasing my tail all alone? Since |>> about 3:17:02 as well... SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net Don't know if this will help out or not, but worth a shot for comparison. This is what I find on the 98SE in VPC for the date/time frame just before I responded in this thread after running MSUDs. Today is the first day running the VPC 98SE since that date. http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq4.htm SignatureBrian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > How many here are (still) seeing the error message quoted in MEB's post? > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>> really that lucky - all afternoon chasing my tail all alone? Since >>> about 3:17:02 as well... > I can't be the only one looking at the Thank You for showing an > interest in Windows you Macintosh user page can I? Anybody seen [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > really that lucky - all afternoon chasing my tail all alone? Since > about 3:17:02 as well... Just trying it now to see what the fuss is about, and everything works fine for me Lee, and so I'm not sure what you are seeing? I wish I could. The only thing I notice is that it is really, really slow this saturday morning (11:00 am) when clicking links to respond there, otherwise everything does show up. I see it has these things available even though I don't need any: ~~~~~~~~~~~copy/paste~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Critical Updates and Service Packs (78) Additional Windows Downloads (1) Internet and Multimedia Updates (1) Multi-Language Features (73) Recommended Updates (15) Windows Tools (1) Advanced Security Updates (0) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rick |> I can't be the only one looking at the Thank You for showing an |> interest in Windows you Macintosh user page can I? Anybody seen [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] | Advanced Security Updates (0) | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Like Lee, I get redirected to this page...!... http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/thanks.aspx?ln=en-us&thankspage=2& ......Quote.............. Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site. This website is designed to work with Microsoft Windows operating systems only. To find updates for Microsoft products that are designed for Macintosh operating systems, please visit http://www.microsoft.com/mac/. ......EOQ................ What is the page you &/or Brian A. see ultimately in the Address Bar, after you click any of these-- which all USED TO work for me-- but NOW they all redirect to that thanks.aspx page...!?!... "START button, Windows Update". That is a shortcut to "C:\WINDOWS\WUPDMGR.EXE". For me, that button USED TO briefly flashe... http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com ...then, redirect to... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp They are all over the place, really. Another is at "START, Favorites, Links, Windows Update". It USED TO go to... http://windows.microsoft.com/isapi/redir.dll?prd=windowsupdate&clcid=&pver=&ar=W indowsUpdate ...which became... http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/default.htm ...& finally... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp Also, "IE, Tools, Windows Update" USED TO go there!. Now, EVEN... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp ...will just keep redirecting to that thanks.aspx! | Rick SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net > Like Lee, I get redirected to this page...!... > http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/thanks.aspx?ln=en-us&thankspage=2& [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > operating systems, please visit http://www.microsoft.com/mac/. > ......EOQ................ Interesting... Did you check and see if you had that registry key that Brians link alludes to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion \Internet Settings\User Agent\PostPlatform (watch linewrap) ...and delete it, even though it's suppose to be only for 2k/xp ..but if you have it, delete it, as per this article... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~copy/paste~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Problem Description: When going to the Windows Update Web site located at windowsupdate.microsoft.com, the page immediately redirects you to v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/thanks.asp, which says "you must be running a Microsoft Windows operating system in order to use Windows Update." This occurs if both a third party firewall and the built-in Windows XP firewall are enabled at the same time. Resolutions: Please delete the following registry key. Be sure to export this key to a safe location first. (watch wrap) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion \Internet Settings\User Agent\PostPlatform (watch linewrap) This may be resolved by uninstalling the third party firewall. The system administrator may have made changes to your corporate firewall/proxy that will not allow Windows Update to operate properly. Please contact your system administrator and have them identify Windows Update as an excluded site on the firewall/proxy. Issue Applies To: Windows 2000 Windows XP ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > What is the page you &/or Brian A. see ultimately in the Address Bar, > after you click any of these-- which all USED TO work for me-- but NOW > they all redirect to that thanks.aspx page...!?!... I go directly to this page the first time: https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp ... but you know what - I don't see that it matters since no matter which link of yours I try, it works every time. > "START button, Windows Update". That is a shortcut to > "C:\WINDOWS\WUPDMGR.EXE". For me, that button USED TO briefly flashe... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp > ...will just keep redirecting to that thanks.aspx! Every single link you give I click on a it brings me to the same place, except for you last one here brings me to the Welcome to Windows Update Catalog page..but that's all part of the same process so it still is working. It must be something on your units that WU is detecting that's not on ours that is kicking you to that page - it has to be something simple - check that registry key given above and delete it, or it has to be something else simple and we just need to isolate it... ...Okay Hiro Nakamura.... <smile> Rick > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net ps... about that registry key mentioned to delete... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion \Internet Settings\User Agent\PostPlatform Well it can't be that since I just did the reverse and set it and/or deleted it (even though there were no values in it and was blank) ..but with that folder key in place or not I still get in. You know it has to be something even more simpler than that I think. Although I sit behind a Netgear NAT router and a ZA software firewall if that changes anything, but I don't know why it should. Rick ..btw, C:\Windows\Windows Update.log shows this (watch the wraps) 2007-02-25 07:35:26 12:35:26 Success IUCTL Starting 2007-02-25 07:35:27 12:35:27 Success IUCTL Downloaded iuident.cab from windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v4/ to C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4 2007-02-25 07:35:27 12:35:27 Success IUCTL Checking to see if new version of Windows Update software available 2007-02-25 07:35:27 12:35:27 Success IUCTL Current iuctl.dll version: 5.3.3790.13 2007-02-25 07:35:27 12:35:27 Success IUCTL Current iuengine.dll version: 5.3.3790.13 2007-02-25 07:35:27 12:35:27 Success IUENGINE Starting 2007-02-25 07:35:28 12:35:28 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2007-02-25 07:35:28 12:35:28 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2007-02-25 07:35:34 12:35:34 Success IUENGINE Shutting down 2007-02-25 07:35:34 12:35:34 Success IUCTL Shutting down 2007-02-25 07:35:42 12:35:42 Success IUCTL Starting 2007-02-25 07:35:43 12:35:43 Success IUCTL Downloaded iuident.cab from windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v4/ to C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4 2007-02-25 07:35:43 12:35:43 Success IUCTL Checking to see if new version of Windows Update software available 2007-02-25 07:35:43 12:35:43 Success IUCTL Current iuctl.dll version: 5.3.3790.13 2007-02-25 07:35:43 12:35:43 Success IUCTL Current iuengine.dll version: 5.3.3790.13 2007-02-25 07:35:43 12:35:43 Success IUENGINE Starting 2007-02-25 07:35:43 12:35:43 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2007-02-25 07:35:43 12:35:43 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2007-02-25 07:35:58 12:35:58 Success IUENGINE Shutting down 2007-02-25 07:35:58 12:35:58 Success IUCTL Shutting down | ps... about that registry key mentioned to delete... | [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | ..but | with that folder key in place or not I still get in. TODAY, Windows Update works for me just fine! I suspect THEY were at fault, or -- I guess -- it could be a reboot has cured me. But what was amiss to cure? There were no new updates. Anyhow, I do have that key -- but with a space inside "Post Platform" --, & it, yea, has no effect-- today anyhow... REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent\Post Platform] "Q312461"="" | You know it has to be something even more simpler than that I think. Either a reboot cured me-- or it was them! But thanks, & to Brian A. too. | Although I sit behind a Netgear NAT router and a ZA software firewall | if [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] | 2007-02-25 07:35:58 12:35:58 Success IUENGINE Shutting down | 2007-02-25 07:35:58 12:35:58 Success IUCTL Shutting down SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net ...snip | Rick | [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] | 2007-02-25 07:35:58 12:35:58 Success IUENGINE Shutting down | 2007-02-25 07:35:58 12:35:58 Success IUCTL Shutting down Yea, my good ones today look just like that. Although I tried it more than twice yesterday, only TWO showed up in "Windows Update.log"... .......Quote the .log................ 2007-02-24 16:03:30 21:03:30 Success IUCTL Starting 2007-02-24 16:03:32 21:03:32 Error IUCTL Library download error. Will retry. (Error 0x80070002: The system cannot find the file specified.) 2007-02-24 16:03:32 21:03:32 Error IUCTL Library download error. Will retry. (Error 0x80070002: The system cannot find the file specified.) 2007-02-24 16:03:32 21:03:32 Error IUCTL Library download error. Will retry. (Error 0x80070002: The system cannot find the file specified.) 2007-02-24 16:03:32 21:03:32 Error IUCTL Failed to download iuident.cab from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v4/ to C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4\temp (Error 0x80070002: The system cannot find the file specified.) 2007-02-24 16:03:32 21:03:32 Success IUENGINE Starting 2007-02-24 16:03:32 21:03:32 Error IUENGINE Library download error and timed out (-1 ms). Will not retry. (Error 0x80070002: The system cannot find the file specified.) 2007-02-24 16:03:32 21:03:32 Success IUENGINE Shutting down 2007-02-24 16:10:04 21:10:04 Success IUCTL Shutting down ......EOQ............... The second of those may have involved the Catalog site. You know! An error DID flash briefly just before the first access to Windows Update that resulted in the redirect to that thanks.aspx! Here is what the Troubleshoot site has to say... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/troubleshoot/ .......Quote......... Problem Description: Customer receives error 0x80070002 when trying to access the site Resolutions: This is an intermittent error that appears from time to time. The most likely cause of this error is intermittent network connectivity. The Internet is a dynamic network and sometimes it takes more than one attempt for communications to succeed. Based on our experience, most customers who encounter this error only see it for a short period of time and then the error goes away and the Windows Update site functions normally. We have also seen this error when some Windows 2000 SP3 customers choose to archive old files. After the archive the old versions of the Windows Update control files stay in place and they get the 80070002 error. The control files IUENGINE.DLL and IUCTL.DLL, both located in C:\Windows\System32, should be reviewed for date and version to troubleshoot. .......EOQ........... My own IUEngine.dll & IUCtrl.dll seem both to be dated 8/21/03, & both have this file wordy version... "5.3.3790.13 built by: SRV03_RTM(ntvbl04)". Anyhow, I am working well today! SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net I'm running IE5.5 on Win98SE and also getting the same message. No more WU for me. > I can't be the only one looking at the Thank You for showing an > interest in Windows you Macintosh user page can I? Anybody seen [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > really that lucky - all afternoon chasing my tail all alone? Since > about 3:17:02 as well... | I'm running IE5.5 on Win98SE and also getting the same message. No | more WU for me. You probably still have it! Even with IE 6 SP1, I lost it yesterday-- but it has come back today! Close the "Thank You" screen, & try again later, or even after a fresh reboot. It could be some kind of problem at their end! JUST, maybe ensure you are working online... "IE, File Menu, uncheck 'Work Offline'" ...&/or clean out TIFs... "Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete all offline content, OK, OK" ..., but I didn't even have to do that, really. |> I can't be the only one looking at the Thank You for showing an |> interest in Windows you Macintosh user page can I? Anybody seen [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] |> really that lucky - all afternoon chasing my tail all alone? Since |> about 3:17:02 as well... SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net I am just curious: did anybody realy found a solution for that problem? Or what is causing it? It looks like som escripting is not accepted, but all seems to be enabled on my side. I had the problem on one recent installation, but it did cure itself after some updates were installed manually. However noe only ver few updates seem to be avaiable from the download site manualy and the relevant might not be there. Is there any clear results? The key described in the KB is not on my machine anyway, nothing to delet therefore. Several MVPs discussed this problem with the WU team during the Global Summit earlier this month so rest assured MS is aware of the problem. Whether they'll do anything about it remains to be seen. Signature~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org > I am just curious: > did anybody realy found a solution for that problem? Or what is causing [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > machine > anyway, nothing to delet therefore. It took TWO tries, but did just work for me. Here is what I see for Win98 at... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp ......Quote.......... Your search returned 171 results Select from the list below to see updates found in each category. Critical Updates and Service Packs (78) Additional Windows Downloads (1) Internet and Multimedia Updates (1) Multi-Language Features (75) Recommended Updates (15) Windows Tools (1) Advanced Security Updates (0) ........EOQ................ So, try it twice in a row-- or until Bear & the other MVPs storm the castle with sharpened claws! SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net | | I am just curious: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | Is there any clear results? The key described in the KB is not on my machine | anyway, nothing to delet therefore. |
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