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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / General Topics / June 2007WINDOWS 98 QUESTION!
In Windows 98 can you please tell me how I can create a system recovery checkpoint. I did this years ago and can't seem to remember how to do it. Also, can you please tell me how to go back and choose a restore point, either one that I created myself or that the computer created itself. If I remember correctly the computer itself will only create 3 successful restore points either by myself or on it's own. Am I correct? Is there any way at all that you can set it to where you can have more than 3 restore points and if so would it be a wise decision to do so based on that it could mess something up if I do or is 3 the limit? Please let me know all of the answers to my questions.  SignatureThank you and have a great day!!! BRUSSO!!! > In Windows 98 can you please tell me how I can create a system > recovery checkpoint. I did this years ago and can't seem to > remember how to do it. Not possible. Best that can be done (without having a copy of C:) is to restore an older registry. Doing that won't help if files have been deleted; any programs installed after the date of the restored registry may not function. ____________________ > Also, can you please tell me how to go back and choose a restore > point, either one that I created myself or that the computer > created itself. To restore a registry back up, boot to DOS and type "scanreg /restore" (no quotes) then select one of the usual five by date. ________________________ > If I remember correctly the computer itself will only create 3 > successful restore points either by myself or on it's own. Am I > correct? Five is normal ________________________ > Is there any way at all that you can set it to where you can have > more than 3 restore points and if so would it be a wise decision to > do so based on that it could mess something up if I do or is 3 the > limit? Please let me know all of the answers to my questions. Edit the Scanreg.ini file in the Windows folder (you'll have to temporarily remove the Read only attribute). Backup=1 If set to 0 (zero), no backups. Set it to 1. You can also increase the number of backups retained but only 5 show up in Scanreg /restore. MaxBackupCopies=5 ( I set mine for 10 ) If you set it up so you have more than 5 registry backups and want to restore one, you need to use Windows to browse to the C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP folder and move the ones you don't want to consider for restoring to another temporary folder (the rbxxx.cab files are the zipped registry files); then boot to DOS, restore, boot to Windows and move them back. You can also double click the rb000.cab files in to open them then right click the files and extract. SignaturedadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico >In Windows 98 can you please tell me how I can create a system recovery >checkpoint. I did this years ago and can't seem to remember how to do it. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >it could mess something up if I do or is 3 the limit? Please let me know all >of the answers to my questions. Windows 98 does not include any actual "system restore" function. That capability first appeared with Windows Millennium Edtion (WindowsMe) and was refined and enhanced with Windows XP. What Windows 98 does have is a registry backup, restore, and repair function called SCANREG which works only with the 2 Windows 98 registry files (system.dat and user.dat) and with two of Windows critical configuration files (win.ini and system.ini). SCANREG is normally active as part of the startup axis of your computer and therefore runs automatically each time you start up the computer (unless you are one of the foolhardy types who has turned off the "scan registry" item using MSCONFIG. What scanreg does is to check the current registry and ensure that it is valid. Then, on the first startup of each calendar day, it creates a new backup as a compressed .CAB file. It retains the 5 most recent backup files and automatically deletes the oldest one when a new one is created. There are a number of options available with SCANREG, including the ability to create a new manual backup whenever you want (it will count as one of the 5), to select one of the 5 available backups to be restored, and to optimize and/or repair the existing registry files. To create a manual registry backup from within Windows use Start - Run and enter the following command: SCANREGW /BACKUP To restore one of the existing registry backups from within Windows use Start - Run - SCANREGW /RESTORE To restore a backup from a command prompt or startup disk boot use SCANREG /RESTORE To optimize, compact and/or repair the existing registry use SCANREG /OPT /FIX You can actually have SCANREG save more than 5 backups by changing a setting but it is a futile exercise as the restore function will only make the 5 most recent ones available even if more are present. Also restoring a registry backup that is more than 5 days old will very often cause more problems than it will fix. Hope this explains the situation. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2008) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Syberfix Remote Computer Repair "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." > To restore one of the existing registry backups from within Windows > use Start - Run - SCANREGW /RESTORE You can't restore the registry from within Windows, only from DOS with scanreg /restore. > You can actually have SCANREG save more than 5 backups by changing a > setting but it is a futile exercise as the restore function will only > make the 5 most recent ones available even if more are present. I would disagree with that. Some problems that are short of inability to boot Windows but nevertheless unpleasant may not appear for more than 5 days. I have had many annoying glitches develop over the years both with programs and the OS caused by the registry. If the problem developed more than five days before it became apparent, replacing the registry won't help. Even though, Scanreg will only show the 5 most recent backups, the older ones can be located in sysbckup folder in Windows. The cab file can be unzipped and system.dat and user.dat placed somewhere. Then, in DOS they can be copied to the Windows folder. I have had no problems saving 10 backups. I have thought of adding even more. When I think of it, I like to rename one of the cab files so it won't get deleted. Then, if I should need a registry older than 10 days, there is one available. Also > restoring a registry backup that is more than 5 days old will very > often cause more problems than it will fix. What kinds of problems? I've never seen any. > > To restore one of the existing registry backups from within Windows >> use Start - Run - SCANREGW /RESTORE > >You can't restore the registry from within Windows, only from DOS with >scanreg /restore. Not correct. You can run SCANREGW /RESTORE and choose the registry to restore. The computer will then restart and run SCANREG at startup to restore the registry you selected. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2008) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Syberfix Remote Computer Repair "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." > > To restore one of the existing registry backups from within Windows >> use Start - Run - SCANREGW /RESTORE > >You can't restore the registry from within Windows, only from DOS with >scanreg /restore. To add to Ron Martell, there is an undocumented switch to restore the Registry using Scanreg when you are in Windows: scanreg /win -- Mikhail Zhilin http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== >> You can actually have SCANREG save more than 5 backups by changing a >> setting but it is a futile exercise as the restore function will only [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >What kinds of problems? I've never seen any. > SCANREG is normally active as part of the startup axis of your > computer and therefore runs automatically each time you start up the > computer (unless you are one of the foolhardy types who has turned off > the "scan registry" item using MSCONFIG. Your reply to the o/p is the best I've ever read. I hope for my sake you might help me too, especially regarding the above part of your post to o/p. I am not foolhardy but it looks like I may be. When I read the bit about "scan registry" in msconfig, I clicked on my shortcut to msconfig to check if mine was where it should be, but I dont have anything there relating to it, and I know for sure that I wouldnt have turned it off or otherwise....... am I missing something? I have 11 entries in my msconfig, all justified. Now that I think about it, scanreg/restore has been in my msconfig, but now its not..... hmmmm?! Here is what is there at the moment... TaskMon, SysTray, Avast, AshMaiSv, GeneUSBmon, nwiz, TweakUI, IconSaver, SchedulingAgent, avast!, Microsoft Office StartUp. All the above are 'norm'. They are just the tray, my AV, MicroStuff....etc.. So, what do you think happened to my scanreg/.....? Again, great post to original poster...... I have copied your reply and filed it appropiately. tia > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada > -- [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference > has never been in bed with a mosquito." >Your reply to the o/p is the best I've ever read. >I hope for my sake you might help me too, especially regarding the above [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Again, great post to original poster...... I have copied your reply and >filed it appropiately. Your startup in Windows 98 should (must ?) include not only "scan registry" (without a /restore switch) but also 2 "load power profile" entries. I don't have the exact command syntax needed to add these items back but perhaps one of the others on this newsgroup will provide the necessary details. >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada >> -- [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference >> has never been in bed with a mosquito." Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2008) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Syberfix Remote Computer Repair "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." > Your startup in Windows 98 should (must ?) include not only "scan > registry" (without a /restore switch) but also 2 "load power [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > but perhaps one of the others on this newsgroup will provide the > necessary details. For scanreg, it is in... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run Name is... ScanRegistry and Data for name (on my machine) is... "C:\Windows\scanregw.exe /autorun" SignaturedadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico > For scanreg, it is in... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and Data for name (on my machine) is... > "C:\Windows\scanregw.exe /autorun" > dadiOH Hello dadiOH, First, please read my replies to Ron Martel. Second, I have 'Scanregw.exe' in my Windows folder. (win98SE) but no /(slash)autorun. I do have scanreg.ini in there too, along with 'scandskw.exe', but that is for scanning the disk. Any help on this appreciated, especially (as I said to ron) where or why did the items disappear from msconfig? Fwiw, the computer runs just fine. tia vin. >> For scanreg, it is in... >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Any help on this appreciated, especially (as I said to ron) where > or why did the items disappear from msconfig? They aren't there because they aren't in the registry. I have no idea why they aren't in the registry...been playing with a registry cleaner? I was giving you the information to put back scanreg. SignaturedadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico > They aren't there because they aren't in the registry. I have no idea > why they aren't in the registry...been playing with a registry [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > dadiOH No, havent/never played with any reg' cleaner. Am not foolhardy either, always try to stay on top of computer issues, wouldnt have found this group otherwise. Thanks for the try, hopefully ron may know something. If you are up at the keyboard, (i will be for next 2hrs) is there anything you can tell me about the 2 'load power profiles',, in general. I have always just taken them for granted due to lurking in forums and groups. Thanks. vin > > I don't have the exact command syntax needed to add these items back > > but perhaps one of the others on this newsgroup will provide the > > necessary details. > > For scanreg, it is in... dadiOH, are you saying that the 'command syntax' is in the Path you gave regarding the registry? I dont see or know where the 'command' to 'add these items back' is.. all I see is the path to what msconfig shows. > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > dadiOH Am just trying to put things right. (in fact, now I'm curious as to exactly what power profile etc does, especially because my computer is running as it does normally. (out of recollection, I reckon the last time I saw 'scanreg' & 'load power etc' in msconfig was about 2 or 3 weeks ago when I went looking for something else. tia if you come with sumthing. vin >>> I don't have the exact command syntax needed to add these items >>> back but perhaps one of the others on this newsgroup will provide >>> the necessary details. >> >> For scanreg, it is in... >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> and Data for name (on my machine) is... >> "C:\Windows\scanregw.exe /autorun" _______________________________ > dadiOH, are you saying that the 'command syntax' is in the Path > you gave regarding the registry? > I dont see or know where the 'command' to 'add these items back' > is.. all I see is the path to what msconfig shows. What I gave you is the information needed to re-create the missing registry information; once that is re-created, it will show up in MSCONFIG. You are obviously unfamiliar with the registry so I am NOT suggesting you re-create the entry for Scanreg; however, I will tell you how to do it...whether or not you do so is up to you. I would advise you to get a more knowledgeable friend to do it. ------------------------- Start Run regedit That opens the registry in a hierarchal form similar to folders in WinExplorer. --------------------------- Browse to... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run Be SURE you are in the correct place --------------------------- Right click the word "Run" in the left pane Click "New" Click "String Value" That will create a new entry in the right pane under "Name". It will be named "New Value" and will be selected so that you can rename it. Rename it to "ScanRegistry" (no quotes) ---------------------------- Now right click the new entry you just made and select "Modify" A new, small window will open and be inviting you to enter "Value Data". In that window, type "C:\Windows\scanregw.exe /autorun" then click "OK". (This entry SHOULD have quotes at start and end just like all other items under "Data" in the right pane and the path must be to scanregw.exe as it is on *your* machine.) Click "OK" Close regedit. All done. ------------------------ If you should screw up along the way, delete what you did. If You want to make SURE you can get the registry back as it was beforehand, then - before doing anything else - click the word "Registry" in the tool bar and select "Export registry File". Note that there is also an option to "Import Registry File" so if you are exporting it, put it where you can find it should you want to import. Desktop is handy. If you export the registry file, re-create the ScanReg entry and everything is fine you can delete the exported file as soon as you are comfortable doing so. SignaturedadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico >>> I don't have the exact command syntax needed to add these items back >>> but perhaps one of the others on this newsgroup will provide the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Am just trying to put things right. Here's a way to do it: (If your Windows OS-folder is on C: and named 'WINDOWS'). 1) Open Notepad. 2) Copy what is between the dashed lines below into the Notepad document. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGEDIT4 [HKey_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run] "ScanRegistry"="C:\\Windows\\ScanRegW.exe /autorun" "TaskMonitor"="C:\\Windows\\TaskMon.exe" "SystemTray"="SysTray.Exe" "LoadPowerProfile"="RunDLL32.exe PowrProf.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme" [HKey_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices] "SchedulingAgent"="C:\\Windows\\System\\msTask.exe" "LoadPowerProfile"="RunDLL32.exe PowrProf.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme" ; There needs to be a blank row present below this one. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3a) 'Save as ...' "DefRunKeys.reg", including the quote-marks. or 3b) Save as "DefRunKeys", excluding quote-marks, and rename the resulting "DefRunKeys.txt" to "DefRunKeys.reg" 4) Right-click on [DefRunKeys.reg] and choose 'merge'. Click OK after reading the dialog-box, and you'll get an confirmation message. (If there is no 'merge' in the popup context-menu, recheck that the file-extension indeed is 'reg' not 'txt'.) I think the above are the standard entries Win98xE creates. Now, i personally do not use "TaskMonitor" and "SchedulingAgent" so i do not have these present on my machines. SignatureNah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. Please followup in the newsgroup. E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. Please see my reply to your new thread, in which I include a link to a reg file you can download and run to add what you want. SignatureGlen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> > I don't have the exact command syntax needed to add these items back >> > but perhaps one of the others on this newsgroup will provide the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > tia if you come with sumthing. > vin > I don't have the exact command syntax needed to add these items back > but perhaps one of the others on this newsgroup will provide the > necessary details. > > >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Hello Ron, Now I'm confused. Yes, Load power profile was in my msconfig, (both) but now they are not there along with my scanreg/restore etc.. What the heck happened that removed them? How can I get them back. I know that if I do a 'bad-shutdown' my computer will still run the blue-screen check of the drive, so something about scan/reg must still be active somewhere. Help! vin > Your startup in Windows 98 should (must ?) include not only "scan > registry" (without a /restore switch) but also 2 "load power profile" [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > necessary details > >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Also, Ron, my c:\windows\start menu\programs\startup only has 'microsoft office' in it. I am really stumped as to where my scanreg & power-profile went. vin > Your startup in Windows 98 should (must ?) include not only "scan > registry" (without a /restore switch) but also 2 "load power profile" > entries. Hello Ron, I have done much searching in the last hour relating to the non entries in msconfig; and I have come back to this post/thread to ask what you meant above by " (must?) " include. If my win98 computer 'must' have these these files, then why is my computer is running without a hitch?(or am I just lucky?) As such, and because I believed there maybe something wrong with my computer, I started a new thread..( I have read many times re: etiquette in posting and thought it best to leave my problem out of the o/p's thread) tia if you can shed some light, the new post should show soon. vin. > >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada >> Your startup in Windows 98 should (must ?) include not only "scan >> registry" (without a /restore switch) but also 2 "load power profile" [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >tia if you can shed some light, the new post should show soon. >vin. I said "....should (must ?) include...." "should include" because that is the way Windows 98 is setup when it is installed and they are there for good and valid reasons. "must include" is my own personal opinion, based on having used Windows 98 since the earliest beta versions, on 16 years of operating my own computer support & repair business, and on 37 years of overall experience with computers in general. Scanregistry can be critically important, especially for the great majority of users who seldom or never do any backups. It can save you the hassles of doing a reformat and reinstall in the event of registry corruption and can sometimes help you to partially overcome other problems, such as a botched install of a new application, at least enough to get the computer running so that a full cleanup can be done. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2008) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Syberfix Remote Computer Repair "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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