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Load Power Profile & Scanreg/Restore etc in Msconfig.... Missing.

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vin - 25 Jun 2007 14:04 GMT
Hello,
I do not have the 2 'load power profiles' or 'scanreg/restore' showing in
msconfig.  The only reason it was noticed was due to my reading a post
here and intervene-ing by asking a question myself.....    both people I
have spoken with are unsure as to how to fix my problem and as to why
it happened in the first place.

I thought it would be best to start a post regarding it, I have lurked
many times and fixed problems by just following threads,  maybe this
thread will assist others as I hope it also assists me.

Problem..
In MsConfig, I dont have the 'load power profile', and also
'scanreg/restore'.
These have always been there since I can remember.
I have so far followed the advice of dadiOH and ron martel, but nothing
said has been concrete.
(the post I intervened in was "WINDOWS 98 QUESTION!" by "brusso",
 on '06/20/07' if you wish to see.)

Either way, I dont understand or know where the entries now are, or if they
even exist on my computer.
I looked in the registry path that dadiOH supplied, and sure enough, its
a mirror image of my msconfig as it stands......   minus the entries in
topic.

Anyone ever come across this?    Anyone know why or how the entries
just disappeared?
Can anyone also shed a little light on just what it is that the 2 'load
power
profiles' actually do?    like I said in the other thread, my computer is
running just fine.
tia
vin.
vin - 25 Jun 2007 14:13 GMT
> In MsConfig, I dont have the 'load power profile', and also
> 'scanreg/restore'.

Please forgive above Typo..    the bit about 'scanreg' should have read
that I dont have 'Scanregw.exe /autorun'.   IIRC that was the entry that
was there, but now is not.
vin
vin - 25 Jun 2007 14:40 GMT
One of the "LoadPowerProfile" entries loads a set of default power saving
values that are used if no user is logged in (or if you hit Esc to bypass
login) and the other loads the values saved in your personal profile. Since
they run and then exit (don't take up memory or system resources) there's
nothing to be saved by eliminating one or the other.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper

I just found this on a forum, it seems to imply that the 'lpp's' is not
really
as important an issue as implied...      and due to the fact that my
computer
is running ok, I guess I can concur.
As for the scanregw.exe /autorun thing, I'm still searching.
(my main question now is the same as one of my priors, that is why these
three entries seemed to have just slipped away into the ether.)
Hope this info I'm supplying is of enough value to help you guys help me
and others who may experience similar.
vin
glee - 25 Jun 2007 16:47 GMT
Hi Vin,
Open your browser and download this .zip file to your Desktop or a Download folder:
http://home.triad.rr.com/glenvee/files/runfix.zip

Open the .zip file with WinZip or another zip archive tool....it contains a .reg
file named "runfix.reg"
Extract "runfix.reg" to your Desktop.
Right-click "runfix.reg" on your Desktop and click "Merge" on the menu that appears,
and OK to the confirmation prompt.

Now in msconfig you should see those entries again.
Restart the computer to enable them.
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> Hello,
> I do not have the 2 'load power profiles' or 'scanreg/restore' showing in
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> tia
> vin.
cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) - 25 Jun 2007 16:53 GMT
>I do not have the 2 'load power profiles' or 'scanreg/restore' showing in
>msconfig.  The only reason it was noticed was due to my reading a post
>here and intervene-ing by asking a question myself.....    both people I
>have spoken with are unsure as to how to fix my problem and as to why
>it happened in the first place.

Is it a problem?  Usually folks want to know why both are there, and
the answer is that one is system-level and the other applies
user-specific settings (AFAIK).

>Problem..
>In MsConfig, I dont have the 'load power profile', and also
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Anyone ever come across this?    Anyone know why or how the entries
>just disappeared?

I haven't seen this, no.  

Power profiles may be manipulated by Control Panel, Power icon and may
not apply to all systems (e.g. if mobo doesn't support required power
management feature set or standards).  Also, some systems replace or
override the native OS power management with their own.

Does your PC switch itself off OK on shutdown?

Is there a binged ("!") item in Device Manager, such as power manager?

ScanReg is different; it's a utility to check the registry for errors,
and compact it if this is indicated.  I'm not sure if it also the code
that creates the RB*.CAB registry backups; it prolly is.

So, I'd look in %WinDir%\SysBkUp at the RB*.CAB files there, with
respect to their date stamps - are they still being automatically
generated?  You may have to kick the shell's UI settings to "show
hidden files" etc. or "walk" there from a command prompt and use the
Dir /A command to show files that are "hidden" or "system".

>Can anyone also shed a little light on just what it is that the 2 'load
>power profiles' actually do?    

I think the idea is that each user can set their own preferences, for
things like how many seconds before the monitor suspends (if it does
so at all), as part of the screensaver controls.

So the first "system" instance sets up the facility and imposes
initial settings (that apply if you cancel login, or leave the PC
stalled on the account login screen).  Then the per-user instance
passes the user's settings to the now-resident facility.

This is similar to the way some old DOS-era subsystems worked, such as
Emm386.exe, SmartDrv.exe, some mouse drivers, SetVer.exe and so on.
The first instance goes resident (and may in fact be a Config.sys
driver, as is the case with Emm386.exe) and then any future instances
act to pass control parameters to it.  It's an elegant way of not
having to have more than one command to remember  :-)

As to ScanReg, that may apply to the per-registry hives, if these
apply in Win9x - it's been a while, and I can't remember.  In the
Win9x era, I hardly ever used multiple user profiles (or "accounts" as
NT/2000/XP call them), nor did I set the user profile settings to
duplicate the various settings etc. on a per-user basis.

I know the Win9x registry is System.dat, User.dat and (WinME only)
Classes.dat, and AFAICR these are not duplicated across user profiles,
but some other settings stores may be, and perhaps ScanReg fiddles
with those as well as the "real" registry files.

>------------ ----- ---- --- -- - -  -    -
  The most accurate diagnostic instrument
   in medicine is the Retrospectoscope
>------------ ----- ---- --- -- - -  -    -
Gary S. Terhune - 25 Jun 2007 19:10 GMT
Chris,

FYI, Scanregw /autorun checks the Registry's integrity but does not
"compact" it. It also checks to see if a Registry backup (RB***.CAB file)
exists for "today", and if not, it creates one.

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MS-MVP Shell/User
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>>I do not have the 2 'load power profiles' or 'scanreg/restore' showing in
>>msconfig.  The only reason it was noticed was due to my reading a post
[quoted text clipped - 78 lines]
>    in medicine is the Retrospectoscope
>>------------ ----- ---- --- -- - -  -    -
glee - 25 Jun 2007 22:31 GMT
Gary,
While it's probably technically true that scanregw /autorun does not in itself do a
compacting of the registry, when it runs it does use the scanreg.ini file, and IIRC
that calls scanreg.exe into play for optimisation if needed.

from: How to Customize Registry Checker Tool Settings
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=183603

<quote>

Both the MS-DOS version (Scanreg.exe) and the Windows 98 version (Scanregw.exe) of
the Registry Checker tool use settings in the Scanreg.ini file.

Backup=
A value of 1 (default) causes a backup copy of your registry to be made the first
time you start your computer on any given day (determined by the system clock).

Optimize=
A value of 1 (default) automatically optimizes your current registry if it contains
500 kilobytes (KB) of unused space.

</quote>
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> Chris,
>
[quoted text clipped - 83 lines]
>>    in medicine is the Retrospectoscope
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Gary S. Terhune - 26 Jun 2007 00:07 GMT
I'll be danged. So it essentially runs scanreg /opt if called for. Didn't
know that. Or I probably did and good old CRS strikes again.

500 KB. Don't know whether to think that's high, and therefore seldom
invoked, or not. Maybe if one uninstalls something like Office, that would
create such a situation. Don't know how much empty space gets created during
daily use. Can't be much.

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> Gary,
> While it's probably technically true that scanregw /autorun does not in
[quoted text clipped - 110 lines]
>>>    in medicine is the Retrospectoscope
>>>>------------ ----- ---- --- -- - -  -    -
glee - 26 Jun 2007 02:58 GMT
Well according to MS and the KB article, that's the case.  I have not gone out of my
way to prove it is so.  ;-)

I'd say an uninstall of Office could easily bring the unused space to 500KB, but
that's making the unreasonable assumption that Office actually removes its Registry
entries during an uninstall.  That is unfortunately not exactly the case.  :-|   Of
course, if someone were to clean up after the Office uninstall manually or with an
installation monitor, then sure.

Likewise for an uninstall of a version of IE, or of Roxio Easy CD Creator, or
RealPlayer, or later versions of Nero.  Additionally a series of uninstalls OR
upgrades that "remove" and replace registry entries will accrue that amount rapidly.
When an upgrade replace entries with identical entries but this time all in CAPS
instead of lower case (for no good reason), all the old entries are "removed" but
still take up "slack space" in the Registry, until such time as it is compacted.

I think any large database file works similarly.  Look at the .dbx files used by
Outlook Express.  Even though you delete emails and empty the Deleted folder, the
associated .dbx files do not get any smaller until they are compacted.
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> I'll be danged. So it essentially runs scanreg /opt if called for. Didn't know
> that. Or I probably did and good old CRS strikes again.
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>>>>    in medicine is the Retrospectoscope
>>>>>------------ ----- ---- --- -- - -  -    -
PA Bear - 25 Jun 2007 22:55 GMT
Please post all replies to your original thread.  Thank you.

> Hello,
> I do not have the 2 'load power profiles' or 'scanreg/restore' showing in
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> tia
> vin.
glee - 26 Jun 2007 02:31 GMT
He had no original thread...this is actually it.  His earlier posts were tagged onto
someone else's thread, and I'd prefer to deal with his issues here than in the
middle of a hijacked thread.  :-)
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> Please post all replies to your original thread.  Thank you.
>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>> tia
>> vin.
PA Bear - 26 Jun 2007 15:23 GMT
Doh!

> He had no original thread...this is actually it.  His earlier posts were
> tagged onto someone else's thread, and I'd prefer to deal with his issues
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>>> tia
>>> vin.
vin - 30 Jun 2007 12:10 GMT
To all who have replied, and I see there are many.
Please forgive my non-response, I have had lots of problems
in the last few days.
Some of my friends have been caught in the floods, and yesterday I
ran out of petrol in the rain, and today the computer went nuts.
I have spent quite a few hours trying to repair it, and ended up using
scanreg /restore from a date 4 months ago......    as you can imagine this
has caused problems too.
Worse thing being the fact that I got my scanreg back in msconfig, but
after updating spybot and running it, I let Spybot fix two problems it
found, and before I knew it, I had lost the scanreg again in msconfig.
(it fixed 'stration' and 'ABetterInternet',,  both seemed to aim at scanreg,
 but I trusted Spybot...       will have to look into it later tonight, my
flooded
 friends come first.)

I havent read responses yet, and hope to later tonight after we try to
check on friends in the flood.
Please be patient, seems everything is going wrong at the moment.

vin,  who is now quoting murphies law, because it sure is happening
here.
 
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