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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / General Topics / July 2007Avast! loses program icons!
Avast! v.4.7 Home Edition loses program & folder icons in Explorer details view & in file open requestors-- the little ones to the left of their names! They are GONE from Explorer's left pane too, & all icons in Control Panel become the same-- the flying Windows icon! (Desktop icons are fine, though.) Neither a log off/on nor even an end-task of Explorer gets them back! Because TIFs may be involved, I emptied them & offline content-- but even that did not get them back! All seems to work, though, anyhow, & a reboot DOES get them back. Wasn't there a thread here about something like this? It happens this way... (a) R-Clk Avast! in the tray, & select "Start avast! Antivirus". (b) Close the little help window after the memory scan. (c) Click the "Folder Selection" button, & cancel it's requestor. (d) Close Avast!. The icons are now GONE! Here is what InCtl5 detects has been changed, but I'm not sure what to make of it... Values changed: 3 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\International\CpMRU "Cache" Old type: REG_BINARY New type: REG_BINARY Old data: B0, 04, 00, 00, C2, 05, 00, 00, AF, 6F, 00, 00, 0C, 02, 00, 00, E2, 04, 00, 00, 92, 00, 00, 00, B0, 6F, 00, 00, 39, 00, 00, 00, 9F, 4E, 00, 00, 21, 00, 00, 00, E9, 04, 00, 00, 0F, 00, 00, 00, BD, 6F, 00, 00, 07, 00, 00, 00, 50, C3, 00, 00, 07, 00, 00, 00, E9, FD, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00, E3, 04, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00, 00 New data: B0, 04, 00, 00, C2, 05, 00, 00, AF, 6F, 00, 00, 0C, 02, 00, 00, E2, 04, 00, 00, 93, 00, 00, 00, B0, 6F, 00, 00, 39, 00, 00, 00, 9F, 4E, 00, 00, 21, 00, 00, 00, E9, 04, 00, 00, 0F, 00, 00, 00, BD, 6F, 00, 00, 07, 00, 00, 00, 50, C3, 00, 00, 07, 00, 00, 00, E9, FD, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00, E3, 04, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00, 00 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Use rAssist\{75048700-EF1F-11D0-9888-006097DEACF9}\Count "HRZR_HVDPHG" Old type: REG_BINARY New type: REG_BINARY Old data: AA, 08, 00, 00, D6, 44, 00, 00, E0, 8C, 26, 49, B9, B9, C7, 01 New data: AA, 08, 00, 00, D7, 44, 00, 00, 00, 7C, BB, 53, BA, B9, C7, 01 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Description\Microsoft\Rpc\UuidPersistentData "LastTimeAllocated" Old type: REG_BINARY New type: REG_BINARY Old data: 00, 2B, CD, 00, 8B, 25, DC, 01 New data: E0, 41, 6B, 0B, 8C, 25, DC, 01 Disk contents Drives tracked: 2 c:\ g:\ Files changed: 6 c:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\Avast4.db Old date: 6/28/2007 3:19 PM New date: 6/28/2007 3:27 PM Old size: 50,176 bytes New size: 50,176 bytes c:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\HTML Help\hh.dat Old date: 6/28/2007 3:19 PM New date: 6/28/2007 3:26 PM Old size: 12,048 bytes New size: 12,048 bytes c:\WINDOWS\Cookies\index.dat Old date: 6/28/2007 3:20 PM New date: 6/28/2007 3:26 PM Old size: 65,536 bytes New size: 65,536 bytes c:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\index.dat Old date: 6/28/2007 3:20 PM New date: 6/28/2007 3:26 PM Old size: 393,216 bytes New size: 393,216 bytes c:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHist012007062820070629\index.dat Old date: 6/28/2007 3:22 PM New date: 6/28/2007 3:26 PM Old size: 32,768 bytes New size: 32,768 bytes g:\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat Old date: 6/28/2007 3:20 PM New date: 6/28/2007 3:26 PM Old size: 2,555,904 bytes New size: 2,555,904 bytes ... That's very similar to a control run of open/close Avast! without clicking the Folders Selection button. Only c:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHist012007062820070629\index.dat did not show up in the control run.  SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net Avast4 Support Forum http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2.0 Signature~PA Bear > Avast! v.4.7 Home Edition loses program & folder icons in Explorer > details view & in file open requestors-- the little ones to the left of [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > c:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHist012007062820070629\index.dat did > not show up in the control run. | Avast4 Support Forum | http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2.0 Thanks, PA. That looks like an asset, yea, & I see a kludge may be there, which may be to avoid certain Avast! requestors &/or settings. Avast!, itself, has a link to there in a help screen. Hopefully, the Avast! folk will come up with an actual fix. I'm not through playing with it, though. | -- | ~PA Bear [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] |> 6F, 00, 00, 07, 00, 00, 00, 50, C3, 00, 00, 07, 00, 00, 00, E9, FD, |> 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00, E3, 04, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00, 00 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Use |> rAssist\{75048700-EF1F-11D0-9888-006097DEACF9}\Count "HRZR_HVDPHG" |> Old type: REG_BINARY |> New type: REG_BINARY |> Old data: AA, 08, 00, 00, D6, 44, 00, 00, E0, 8C, 26, 49, B9, B9, |> C7, 01 New data: AA, 08, 00, 00, D7, 44, 00, 00, 00, 7C, BB, 53, BA, |> B9, C7, 01 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Description\Microsoft\Rpc\UuidPersistentData |> "LastTimeAllocated" |> Old type: REG_BINARY [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] |> c:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHist012007062820070629\index.dat did |> not show up in the control run. SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net > Avast! v.4.7 Home Edition loses program & folder icons in Explorer > details view & in file open requestors-- the little ones to the left of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > gets them back! Because TIFs may be involved, I emptied them & offline > content-- but even that did not get them back! I've found this as well, but only with v4.7. Did this happen after you'd done a scan from the main menu? That's when it has happened to me. Do you set it to scan archive files? A quick skim through the Avast forum seems to suggest that the problem doesn't occur so long as you don't scan .zip and similar archive files. Try that and see what happens. HTH, HAND, NWYWWAHBE SignatureRegards Nigel Stapley www.judgemental.plus.com <reply-to will bounce> I don't have my Win98SE system (with Avast installed) connected to its peripherals (KM&M) right now because I am using them on another machine I'm working on, so I can't test this right now. I can tell you it does not occur with WinXP, so it is a "Win9x thing." From what you describe, you are using skins in Avast, and clicking a button on the media-player-style interface. I don't enable skins and instead use the simpler interface included. You might try turning off skins and see if it makes any difference: Right-click the Avast icon in the tray. Click on Program Settings. Under "Common", uncheck all the "Enable skins..." options, and click OK. This will give you a default interface that is not a media player clone. See if the issue you describe still occurs in that state. SignatureGlen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > Avast! v.4.7 Home Edition loses program & folder icons in Explorer > details view & in file open requestors-- the little ones to the left of [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > c:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHist012007062820070629\index.dat did > not show up in the control run. > From what you describe, you are using skins in Avast, and clicking > a button on the media-player-style interface. I don't enable skins > and instead use the simpler interface included. You might try > turning off skins and see if it makes any difference: It doesn't. SignaturedadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico From my recent experiance/test regarding Avast 4.70: I did a complete fresh re-install from the cdroms, rather than from the partition image [created with partition saving] via 98FE - 98SE updates/upgrade - SecCD 2004, for a new test bed for unofficial patches. This time, instead of AVG, I tried Avast!. Not sure what went wrong but after installing it [all devices installed, and other software first] I found my computer locked up or programs errorred out. Note: no unofficial patches had been applied. So much went wrong [errors] I had to re-do the install. I would be interested in what the users have found works for them upon installation, what they turned on or off/did not install, configurations, etc.. I realize lots of people use this a-v with no problems, but I could never trace the exact cause(s) of these [my] errors to the root issues. Obviously it was something I did, or an incompatability with something already installed. But I'm not sure what it was.... SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________ | > From what you describe, you are using skins in Avast, and clicking | > a button on the media-player-style interface. I don't enable skins | > and instead use the simpler interface included. You might try | > turning off skins and see if it makes any difference: | | It doesn't. > From my recent experiance/test regarding Avast 4.70: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Obviously it was something I did, or an incompatability with something > already installed. But I'm not sure what it was.... Last time I tried this software during the beginning of last year I did not like it either, at all.. ..but I'm not able to collaborate on details since it's so long ago I hardly remember, but I see I even deleted all the install files and tracking notes from it and that says alot for me. These days my number once choice is Nod32 by leaps and bounds over anything else, however it's far from being free is the only drawback for many, otherwise imho&e on every level from it's remarkably small install footprint (files/registry entries) to its scan engine and its whole setup - it's #1 in my book; although I don't use it's email and a few other modules and have them unchecked since I think that extra stuff/fluff has no real value, for me anyway, ymmv. Anyway, perhaps this year Avast has come a long way since that last time I tested it, and so I'll be positive and leave my mind open to that thought... Rick > -- > MEB [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >| LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >| Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico | From my recent experiance/test regarding Avast 4.70: | [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] | incompatability with something already installed. But I'm not sure | what it was.... That's pretty ugly. Actually, the install of Avast! Home Edition v.4.7 went quick & well for me, & overall I'm fairly happy with it. It does well at... http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm ..., except I can't get On-Access to detect a virus in the .txt file-- even setting it to include "all files", instead of just the executables. That file gets copied to TIFs. If I then R-Clk & scan it, it does get detected. Looks like the zipped viruses are like that too. They get copied to a folder & must be R-Clkd, scanned, or opened by WinZip before the virus is detected. I guess that's all acceptable. I see some at the forum... http://forum.avast.com/ ... have more serious problems than disappearing Explorer icons, though, & one (hopefully) false alarm (I never actually use RioPort Audio Manager, anyhow). Did you try v.4.7? I really can't help you much, because I'm just learning it, myself. Now I see I've got no icons in my "START, Programs" menu, EITHER-- are they supposed to be in there? I'm still working on responses to the other posters. Yea, the forum looks like an asset. | -- | MEB [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] || LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. || Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net Alright, I've started up the Win98SE system here that has Avast 4.7.1 installed, and can confirm the issue. It occurs here whether scanning in archives is enabled or not, and regardless of whether skins are enabled. It occurs as PCR mentioned, simply by opening the dialog to choose folders to scan, even if you then cancel the dialog. As soon as Avast scanner window is closed, the icons in Explorer (in List, Detailed, and Small Icons view), and in the Start Menu sub-menus, disappear. Same in Control Panel, My Computer and single-folder windows....the only icons that remain are if View is set to Large Icon view. Here, in Control Panel, the Mouse icon and one third-party icon revert to generic flying window icon. The large icons on the main Start Menu remain. Icons in the Quick Launch bar disappear when moused over. Icons in the System Tray remain untouched. All reverts to normal upon restarting. I noticed right away upon restarting that the Desktop icons were rebuilt and at first appeared as generic icons....a sure sign the shelliconcache file has been deleted, as happens upon a restart from Safe Mode. Sure enough, shelliconcache is missing. Click Start>Shutdown>Cancel, and the file is rebuilt and then appears in a search of C: This scenario appear every time, whether the actual scan is run or not. I have not seen this behaviour before with earlier builds of Avast, so it must be new to 4.71. Avast still shows Win9x under it system requirements, so I am guessing they still "support" these operating systems. http://www.avast.com/eng/system-requirements-avast-home.html I suggest any users experiencing this odd bug in Win9x post on the Avast support forums as linked by Robear, and also if possible contact the company directly: http://www.avast.com/eng/technical_support.html SignatureGlen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> From what you describe, you are using skins in Avast, and clicking >> a button on the media-player-style interface. I don't enable skins >> and instead use the simpler interface included. You might try >> turning off skins and see if it makes any difference: > > It doesn't. | I don't have my Win98SE system (with Avast installed) connected to | its peripherals (KM&M) right now because I am using them on another | machine I'm working on, so I can't test this right now. I can tell | you it does not occur with WinXP, so it is a "Win9x thing." XP may have irradiated the problem away-- but I STILL can't recommend it! | From what you describe, you are using skins in Avast, and clicking a | button on the media-player-style interface. I don't enable skins and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | This will give you a default interface that is not a media player | clone. I'm using "pirate by szcraftec". Also, I like "bionic by szcraftec". | See if the issue you describe still occurs in that state. Well, I unchecked the two "enable skins" options & a few others. The program interface looked naked after that, & I had to use its menu to select folders. It DIDN'T work to prevent the loss of icons. I wouldn't have liked it that way, anyhow. But, thanks, glee. OK. In the end, I may simply avoid the specific requestor(s) that cause the problem. I can R-Clk drives or folders in Explorer to do a scan: It WON'T cause the icons to disappear like clicking the "Folder Selection" button does. (At least, it hasn't yet.) And that's really the main thing. I can't see myself going often into the program settings screens once they're set. That is the other item that can cause the loss of icons-- especially when using the exclusions's requestor's browse button (which displays icons, but they will disappear too). I guess it's messing with the icon cache! It is NO CURE to exclude "C:\Windows\ShellIconCache" from Avast!'s consideration. Also, it is no cure to increase its size from 4096 to 8192. I doubt Avast! normally checks that file, anyway, & probably it is the RAM icon cache that really gets mussed. When the icons disappear, the ShellIconCache file seems still to exist. The reboot that returns the icons actually deletes the ShellIconCache. A second reboot returns the ShellIconCache. Well, I'll play with it again when I'm ready for 20 more reboots-- BUT I WISH Avast! would do a real fix for it! Thanks again. | -- | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] |> 6F, 00, 00, 07, 00, 00, 00, 50, C3, 00, 00, 07, 00, 00, 00, E9, FD, |> 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00, E3, 04, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00, 00 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Use |> rAssist\{75048700-EF1F-11D0-9888-006097DEACF9}\Count "HRZR_HVDPHG" |> Old type: REG_BINARY |> New type: REG_BINARY |> Old data: AA, 08, 00, 00, D6, 44, 00, 00, E0, 8C, 26, 49, B9, B9, |> C7, 01 New data: AA, 08, 00, 00, D7, 44, 00, 00, 00, 7C, BB, 53, BA, |> B9, C7, 01 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Description\Microsoft\Rpc\UuidPersistentData |> "LastTimeAllocated" |> Old type: REG_BINARY [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] |> PCR |> pcrrcp@netzero.net SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net > | I don't have my Win98SE system (with Avast installed) connected to > | its peripherals (KM&M) right now because I am using them on another [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > displays icons, but they will disappear too). I guess it's messing with > the icon cache! Or, it's messing with something that is messing with the shelliconcache as a side-effect. > It is NO CURE to exclude "C:\Windows\ShellIconCache" from Avast!'s > consideration. Also, it is no cure to increase its size from 4096 to > 8192. I doubt Avast! normally checks that file, anyway, & probably it is > the RAM icon cache that really gets mussed. Yep, I had already tested increasing the size also....it makes no diff. Something more than *just* deleting the shelliconcache is going on, because one can manually delete it a number of ways, and it doesn't cause the issue we see here, of all icons in Explorer etc disappearing. They are disappearing in memory also, it seems. > When the icons disappear, the ShellIconCache file seems still to exist. > The reboot that returns the icons actually deletes the ShellIconCache. A > second reboot returns the ShellIconCache.] That's the way it always (usually) works with the shelliconcache deletion. After rebooting and geting your icons back, the file will be missing, but if you log off or reboot, or even if you click Start> Shutdown, then Cancel, it will reappear. A reboot should not be necessary. Of course there are exceptions to every rule. ;-) Similarly, when you icons first disappear and you still see the file present, Start> Shutdown> Cancel should make it disappear when you next search for it. YMMV. > Well, I'll play with it again when I'm ready for 20 more reboots-- BUT I > WISH Avast! would do a real fix for it! Thanks again. I am not happy with the response I have seen from Avast Evangelists in their forums thus far, to reports of this when it began to appear. Mostly just blame limitations of Win98, when in fact many A-V aps work just fine there with no such problems. The issue seems to clearly be something in how Avast is handling file selection browse process. Whether they admit it and fix it is another question. They appear to support Win9x, and if that's the case, then support it they should. SignatureGlen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > |> Avast! v.4.7 Home Edition loses program & folder icons in Explorer > |> details view & in file open requestors-- the little ones to the left [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > |> but I'm not sure what to make of it... > |> snip of mucho data ...snip |> | See if the issue you describe still occurs in that state. |> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] | Or, it's messing with something that is messing with the | shelliconcache as a side-effect. I do have a huge InCtrl5 report entitled "Avast! Reboot Cure to Lost Icons". Those are sometimes tough to decipher. The most suspicious item was... Files deleted: 1 c:\WINDOWS\ShellIconCache Date: 6/28/2007 3:13 PM Size: 639,127 bytes So, something Avast! did caused Windows to want to regenerate that file, which, right, as you say, takes 2 reboots to accomplish, or, what you said, one reboot & a cancel of a shutdown (I forgot about that). But there are other suspicious items in there. I'm omitting the actual data for brevity & just showing names. This is was a reboot done immediately after losing the icons... Values changed: 12 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{03FA7420-3FCC-11D3-A1EB-AF89CC02843C}\Soft ware\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0 "BrowserPos" HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{03FA7420-3FCC-11D3-A1EB-AF89CC02843C}\Soft ware\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0 "Running" HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Dis cardable\PostSetup\Component Categories\{00021493-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}\Enum "Implementing" HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Dis cardable\PostSetup\Component Categories\{00021494-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}\Enum "Implementing" HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Str eamMRU "MRUListEx" HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Str eams\Desktop "Taskbar" HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Use rAssist\{75048700-EF1F-11D0-9888-006097DEACF9}\Count "HRZR_HVDPHG" HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Connections "SavedLegacySettings" HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Nico Mak Computing\WinZip\WinZip "Quick Pick Window Handle" HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Description\Microsoft\Rpc\UuidPersistentData "LastTimeAllocated" HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power "AcPolicy" HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power "DcPolicy" Files changed: 21 c:\ESSAUDIO.INI c:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\Avast4.db c:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\clnr0.dll c:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\dllcc0.dat c:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\exts0.dll c:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log\aswMaiSv.log c:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log\aswMaiSv.ori c:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\report\Resident protection.txt c:\Program Files\Kerio\Personal Firewall\persfw.conf c:\WINDOWS\NDISLOG.TXT c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI c:\WINDOWS\APPLOG\APPLOG.ind c:\WINDOWS\Cookies\index.dat c:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\index.dat c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DRWATSON.VXD c:\WINDOWS\TEMP\_avast4_\Webshlock.txt g:\Outlook Express Store\Folders.dbx g:\Outlook Express Store\Inbox.dbx g:\Outlook Express Store\Offline.dbx g:\Outlook Express Store\Outbox.dbx g:\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat Note: I didn't have OE or IE open. Avast! just grabs these files, anyhow. |> It is NO CURE to exclude "C:\Windows\ShellIconCache" from Avast!'s |> consideration. Also, it is no cure to increase its size from 4096 to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | doesn't cause the issue we see here, of all icons in Explorer etc | disappearing. They are disappearing in memory also, it seems. IIRC, there is a corresponding RAM cache. I guess that's the one getting mussed, & it causes Windows to want to regenerate the file. |> When the icons disappear, the ShellIconCache file seems still to |> exist. The reboot that returns the icons actually deletes the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | present, Start> Shutdown> Cancel should make it disappear when you | next search for it. YMMV. That's right. (I forgot some of that.) |> Well, I'll play with it again when I'm ready for 20 more reboots-- |> BUT I WISH Avast! would do a real fix for it! Thanks again. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | appear to support Win9x, and if that's the case, then support it they | should. From what I've read there, myself, so far, I must sadly agree with your assessment of them. But I must go back & see what more may have been said. Truly, though, (since it's free) the greater issue is whether or not Avast! is actually working to catch viruses. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, set for a Thorough scan & for Archives-- sometimes Avast! goes into self-extractables-- & sometimes it DOESN'T! It goes into WMP_v.7.1.exe, but not into C:\Program Files\Microsoft Works\1033\Manual\AR40ENG.EXE-- yet BOTH can be opened by WinZip. Also, it goes into C:\Program Files\RioPort\Audio Manager\Setupmdm.exe-- & that one cannot be opened by WinZip. But I guess it could be someone else's self-extractable. | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | http://dts-l.org/ [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] |> |> changed, but I'm not sure what to make of it... |> |> snip of mucho data SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net >It is NO CURE to exclude "C:\Windows\ShellIconCache" from Avast!'s >consideration. Also, it is no cure to increase its size from 4096 to >8192. I doubt Avast! normally checks that file, anyway, & probably it is >the RAM icon cache that really gets mussed. I think you may be right. I don't have a ShellIconCache file (because of the unusual way I shut down my machine?) but Avast still trashes my icons. BTW, I shut down explorer.exe and restarted it (without rebooting), but the icons were not restored. - Franc Zabkar SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |>It is NO CURE to exclude "C:\Windows\ShellIconCache" from Avast!'s |>consideration. Also, it is no cure to increase its size from 4096 to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | of the unusual way I shut down my machine?) but Avast still trashes my | icons. Yea. The only effect of an absent ShellIconCache file that I've noticed is that the drawing of Desktop icons is sluggish at boot-- they seem to draw twice or thrice! Could be the 1st drawing of any group of icons is also sluggish, yea, when the file is absent. | BTW, I shut down explorer.exe and restarted it (without rebooting), | but the icons were not restored. That's right. Also, & log off & on does not cure it. Only a reboot cures it, that I've discovered. Everything else about Windows continues to work, but it's weird looking at certain screens. It's possible to avoid the avast! screens that trigger the problem-- stay away from stuff in avast! that draws icons! Really, the most important screen that draws icons is the Folder Selection button. But you can scan individual folders by R-Clk in Explorer with no ill effect! It's more important to know whether avast! is doing a good job with its scans-- On Demand, On Access, & E-Mail. I don't know when my investigations will end on that. On Demand (set Thorough & for Archives)-- Seems it goes into some .zip & NOT into others. Why? As I said elsewhere... It goes into WMP_v.7.1.exe, but not into C:\Program Files\Microsoft Works\1033\Manual\AR40ENG.EXE-- yet BOTH can be opened by WinZip. On Access (set High)-- It's nice to see a little pop-up showing files scanned, even stuff going into TIFs! E-Mail scan-- All new posts read in at this NG has the following appended to their header (seen in "R-Clk post, Properties, Details tab")... X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000752-7, 07/01/2007), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean | - Franc Zabkar | -- | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net Update... | Avast! v.4.7 Home Edition loses program & folder icons in | Explorer details view-- the little ones to the left of their names! [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] | | The icons are now gone or changed to Flying Windows! It's up to avast! to really cure that. HOWEVER... If one simply never does step (d), the icons never will go bad. Also, the ShellIconCache never will be deleted, if one shuts down or reboots, without ever closing avast!-- therefore, it won't have to regenerate, which normally takes TWO reboots to do. I think that isn't so bad. Avast! belongs in the Startup Group, so that its Memory Scan can occur each boot. Here is one way to get it there... (a) Grab the avast! Desktop Icon with the Right-Mouse button. (b) R-Drag the icon over the START button. (Its menu will open.) (c) Continue to R-Drag the icon to the Programs item. (Its menu will open.) (d) Continue to R-Drag the mouse over "Startup". (It too opens up.) (e) Drop the icon into the Startup menu. (You will get choices.) (f) Select to copy or move the icon there. Now, avast! will start at each boot. IF you click the Folder Selection button or go deep into one of its Browse buttons-- just never close it! |
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