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b11_ - 27 Jul 2007 01:32 GMT
Is it possible that I am the only one here that knows something about cross
booting?

I experienced cross booting not once but on 2 different occasions.

I was not using a boot manager!
Stanislaw Flatto - 27 Jul 2007 02:05 GMT
> Is it possible that I am the only one here that knows something about cross
> booting?
>
> I experienced cross booting not once but on 2 different occasions.
>
> I was not using a boot manager!
Can you induce this condition intentionally?
How? Explain.

Stanislaw
Slack user from Ulladulla.
Gary S. Terhune - 27 Jul 2007 03:32 GMT
What you described, that one OS started the boot and another finished it, is
not possible. Again, how do you know that's what happened?

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> Is it possible that I am the only one here that knows something about
> cross
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>
> I was not using a boot manager!
Jeff Richards - 27 Jul 2007 12:57 GMT
He didn't say that one OS started the boot and another OS finished it.  What
he described (eventually) was that the system appeared to start booting from
one drive, but eventually booted an operating system on another drive.
There are probably several ways that could happen.
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> What you described, that one OS started the boot and another finished it,
> is not possible. Again, how do you know that's what happened?
Gary S. Terhune - 27 Jul 2007 17:06 GMT
<quote>
"I beieve that when a drive starts booting and then another drive finishes
booting then that is called cross booting"
<unquote>

If cross-booting is a term that encompasses any procedure wherein one OS
starts to boot and then passes control to another OS, well in that case
*any* machine is cross-booting to load, since the BIOS is an OS that boots
and then passes control to another OS. Same for any boot manager.

Anyway, I don't see how the case described could happen without deliberately
configuring the first instance of Win98 to do so. Even then, I don't see how
Win98 could be cross-booted as it's been defined here. Do you have a
scenario that fits?

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> He didn't say that one OS started the boot and another OS finished it.
> What he described (eventually) was that the system appeared to start
> booting from one drive, but eventually booted an operating system on
> another drive. There are probably several ways that could happen.
>> What you described, that one OS started the boot and another finished it,
>> is not possible. Again, how do you know that's what happened?
Jeff Richards - 28 Jul 2007 00:58 GMT
That might be a description of cross booting, but I think it's clear that
cross booting was not what happened. The actual description of events was "I
entered BIOS and selected drive 2, which has W98 on an active
partition, to boot. Well 2 started to boot but then I noticed a different
drive, which has W98, booting"  In other words, the second drive was set as
the boot drive, some sort of access occurred to that second drive (how much
is not clear) and then the boot continued on the other drive.

My comment that there are several ways that this could happen assumes that
"drive 2" means some drive other than the master on the primary IDE
controller, and "other" means the master on the primary controller.

The simplest explanation, of course,  is that the system couldn't detect a
valid boot sector on "Drive 2" and defaulted to the next listed drive in the
BIOS boot sequence.  But I assume OP would be aware of this behaviour.  --
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> <quote>
> "I beieve that when a drive starts booting and then another drive finishes
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>> What you described, that one OS started the boot and another finished
>>> it, is not possible. Again, how do you know that's what happened?
Gary S. Terhune - 28 Jul 2007 01:16 GMT
Well, you and I are on the same page, anyway, <s>.

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Gary S. Terhune
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www.grystmill.com

> That might be a description of cross booting, but I think it's clear that
> cross booting was not what happened. The actual description of events was
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>>>> What you described, that one OS started the boot and another finished
>>>> it, is not possible. Again, how do you know that's what happened?
 
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