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My kids were playing with my older laptop and tried to use the install disk. Unfortunatly they did not complete the set-up process and I don't have an ID Key. Microsoft support would not help me since the version is unsupported. Any way to get a key for this thing? > My kids were playing with my older laptop and tried to use the install disk. > Unfortunatly they did not complete the set-up process and I don't have an ID > Key. Microsoft support would not help me since the version is unsupported. > Any way to get a key for this thing? Your fastest route to recovery is probably 1. From DOS SCANREG /RESTORE to restart Windows with a registry antedating the children's interference. 2. When you get Windows running, locate the ProductKey via REGEDIT and write it down on the CD sleeve or label.  SignatureDon Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) >> My kids were playing with my older laptop and tried to use >> the install [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > the ProductKey via REGEDIT and write it > down on the CD sleeve or label. No, the fastest way is to enter W7XTC 2YWFB K6BPT GMHMV B6FDY or another key hundreds of which are all over the web. (I do not have children nor would I let them anywhere near a computer - ever heard of BIOS passwords? - but this MAY not work if the original installation key must be provided. If so, try Don's method.) Signature"...for the force that circles the earth most times in a second is not electricity but pain." - M.P. Anybody know where I can purchase an authentic Windows 98 Second Edition OEM for under $50? Val > >> My kids were playing with my older laptop and tried to use > >> the install [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > if the original installation key must be provided. If so, try > Don's method.) http://tinyurl.com/39ytxs SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com > Anybody know where I can purchase an authentic Windows 98 Second Edition > OEM [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> if the original installation key must be provided. If so, try >> Don's method.) Thanatoid, that key doesn't work for me and neither does my original disk product key... any suggestions? > >> My kids were playing with my older laptop and tried to use > >> the install [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > if the original installation key must be provided. If so, try > Don's method.) =?Utf-8?B?TWFyaWx5bjJV?= > Thanatoid, that key doesn't work for me and neither does my > original disk product key... any suggestions? Something must be seriously funked up in your registry or other place. It could even be a hardware problem. If no one else's suggestions have worked, I, possessing relatively limited knowledge, have nothing to add, unfortunately. However, the full version of 98SE is semi-regularly posted in the a.b.warez.ibm-pc.os group. Since it appears you are an actual owner of the original product, I don't think you would even be breaking any theoretical laws by DL'g and installing it, not that it really matters, even to MS. Or you can get a shrinkwrapped copy on eBay from between $5 to $50, or for a similar price at a garage sale. You can copy all the important stuff onto another drive or computer using DOS (there ARE long file names utilities for DOS if you have to have LFN's, in fact I think there may be one on the 95 and 98 discs), then wipe the drive, partition it, format the partitions, and just install from scratch. It sounds like a hassle but it may be less hassle than trying to do things the "user-friendly MS way". Signature"...for the force that circles the earth most times in a second is not electricity but pain." - M.P. DON, I have the orignial 98SE disk, with the Product Key, but none of the Keys including my own works.. It's not being accepted, say that it's not a good key. When I turn my computer on, it goes directly to the Windows setup screen, I've tired to get into the BIOS, but the laptop isn't answering the command.. it goes directly to the Set-Up wizzard.. > > My kids were playing with my older laptop and tried to use the install > disk. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the ProductKey via REGEDIT and write it > down on the CD sleeve or label. > DON, I have the orignial 98SE disk, with the Product Key, but none of > the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > answering the > command.. it goes directly to the Set-Up wizzard.. What kind of disk is it? Retail? Generic OEM? Branded OEM? The answer to that will determine what kind of key you need to use. Another thing is to make sure you enter all the characters properly. A 5 can look like an S, an 8 can look like a B, a 6 like a G, etc. Also what is the make and model of your laptop? And how do you normally access the BIOS? Thank you for responding. The CD came with a desktop I had years ago, it's not a copy. It's an orgininal microsoft CD. The 1995 laptop I am trying to install it on is a CTX EzBook 700E. I did find the user manual, Alt, Ctrl, S allows me occasionally (if I hit it right) to access the BIOS.. . Right now the BIOS are set up to use the hard drive.. I had it to use the CDrom drive, when I tired to install 98SE, it's installed, but now it won't accept the Key I have or one I got off the web... I would appreciate it if you can help me... Marilyn > > DON, I have the orignial 98SE disk, with the Product Key, but none of > > the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Also what is the make and model of your laptop? And how do you normally > access the BIOS? > Thank you for responding. > > The CD came with a desktop I had years ago, it's not a copy. It's an > orgininal microsoft CD. Again, what type of disc is this "orgininal microsoft CD"? Is it retail? Or generic OEM? > The 1995 laptop I am trying to install it > on is a CTX EzBook 700E. I did find the user manual, Alt, Ctrl, S > allows me occasionally (if I hit it right) to access the BIOS.. . Well, you'll need to hit it right. :-) Once you enter the BIOS, configure it so your PC boots off your CD-ROM drive. Of course, you will need the proper 98SE Installation disc--most likely a generic OEM disc. And we have yet to establish whether or not that's what you have! (I suspect you are trying to use a branded OEM disc. Am I right?) > Right now the BIOS are set up to use the hard drive.. I had it to > use the CDrom drive, when I tired to install 98SE, it's installed, > but now it won't accept the Key I have or one I got off the web... That's because the only certain keys work with certain installation discs. Either obtain a generic OEM disc (and enter the key on your laptop, assuming your laptop originally had 98 SE) or purchase a retail disc (which will have its own key). One more thing I forgot to add... The laptop has a floppy drive, but I have no ability to use it, no way to copy anything to a floppy. When I went into the BIOS thinking it was set only to load with a floppy, I changed the order to accept the CDrom drive, that worked installing the windows 98sa, but as I said before.. the laptop won't accept the two keys I've tired. Right now it's back to using the hard drive.. and that's why it goes directly to the product key request screen.. I am guessing that all I need now is a product key that works.. > > DON, I have the orignial 98SE disk, with the Product Key, but none of > > the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Also what is the make and model of your laptop? And how do you normally > access the BIOS? Have you tried contacting the laptop manufacturer and asking them? SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com > One more thing I forgot to add... The laptop has a floppy drive, but I > have [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> Also what is the make and model of your laptop? And how do you normally >> access the BIOS? > One more thing I forgot to add... The laptop has a floppy drive, but I have > no ability to use it, no way to copy anything to a floppy. Please explain why this is so. > When I went into > the BIOS thinking it was set only to load with a floppy, I changed the order > to accept the CDrom drive, If you are saying that you changed the boot sequence, then change it back. If you need a boot floppy, see http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm > that worked installing the windows 98sa, but as I > said before.. the laptop won't accept the two keys I've tired. Right now > it's back to using the hard drive.. and that's why it goes directly to the > product key request screen.. > I am guessing that all I need now is a product key that works.. If you are saying that booting from the hard drive takes you directly to Windows setup, try tapping the F8 key repeatedly during bootup, then select "Safe mode command prompt only". Then download http://www.62nds.com/62nds/diag.exe to a floppy and run it on the laptop by typing "a:\diag". Ben The laptop has a floppy drive, but I have > > no ability to use it, no way to copy anything to a floppy. > Please explain why this is so. Because I don't have a floppy drive on my desktop computer, it's only on the laptop which doesn't want to load windows, so there is no way I can burn a floppy from the net.. I can't access the floppy on the laptop until I get windows up and running.. > > When I went into > > the BIOS thinking it was set only to load with a floppy, I changed the order > > to accept the CDrom drive, > > If you are saying that you changed the boot sequence, then change it back. > If you need a boot floppy, see http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm I know that and I had already changed it back to hard drive, but while it sequence was changed to CDrom I was able to download Windows 98sa.. only problem is I don 't have a product key that works, can't understand that since I have the original key from the CD disk I use on an old desktop computer. I even tried a different product key, but it would work either... Besides all that, I was told that it would take 9 floppies to make a bootdisk copy.. I DON'T have the ability yet, until I get windows up and running, to copy a floppy disk.. Windows 98se is loaded on the computer, but it won't work without a product key.. I've decided to give it to someone I know that is better with computers then I am... THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP....... The W98 Product Key is generally found on the Windows user manual, the certificate of authenticity, a sticker on the PC or a sticker on the sleeve or jewel case the Windows CD came in. The 25-digit key is 5 groups of 5 alpha/numeric characters. The Key might be available from the system: If the system is working in either safe or normal mode: Open regedit.exe to this key and look in the right pane for the entry ProductKey: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion If the system is not working, start the computer with a floppy startup disk. At the A: prompt, type: C:\Windows\Command\Find /N "ProductKey" C:\Windows\System.dat (Note: ProductKey must be typed in upper and lower case letters as shown and there is a space after: "Find" after: "/N" and after: "ProductKey" If the hard drive has been formatted or replaced, try finding one using google.com I suggest writing the ProductKey on the CD with a Sharpie marker. SignatureRegards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2007 > My kids were playing with my older laptop and tried to use the install > disk. > Unfortunatly they did not complete the set-up process and I don't have an > ID > Key. Microsoft support would not help me since the version is unsupported. > Any way to get a key for this thing? Hi, The way to find the Product Key in the Registry is: Start>Run>regedit>My computer is at the top (with a - in front of it. If it has a +, click on the + this makes it a -)>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Software>Microsoft>Windows>Current Version>Click on the folder not the +. Other folders you click on the + to make them a -. When you click on the Current Version folder, a list appears on the right pane. Look in there for the Product Key. The Product is on the left of this list. The product Key is at the right. I hope this helps. Angel > My kids were playing with my older laptop and tried to use the install disk. > Unfortunatly they did not complete the set-up process and I don't have an ID > Key. Microsoft support would not help me since the version is unsupported. > Any way to get a key for this thing? J.T.Owens, It has been almost a month since your post. Did you ever find the Product ID? It is in the same column as the Product Key. You never told us if you got it or not. Or did you have to get a new disk? Please let us know if it was solved or not. Angel > Hi, > The way to find the Product Key in the Registry is: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Key. Microsoft support would not help me since the version is unsupported. > > Any way to get a key for this thing? | J.T.Owens, | It has been almost a month since your post. Did you ever find the | Product ID? It is in the same column as the Product Key. You never | told us if you got it or not. Or did you have to get a new disk? | Please let us know if it was solved or not. He's in Sing Sing prison, Angel, after using one of thanatoid's keys! | Angel | [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] |> > help me since the version is unsupported. Any way to get a key for |> > this thing? SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net PCR, LOL!! Wondered what happened!! He just made that one post and nothing was ever heard from him again. Never even a *thank you* to the group!! O well! Angel > | J.T.Owens, > | It has been almost a month since your post. Did you ever find the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > |> > help me since the version is unsupported. Any way to get a key for > |> > this thing? | PCR, | LOL!! Wondered what happened!! He just made that one post and | nothing was ever heard from him again. Never even a *thank you* to | the group!! O well! That was it, in all probability! I calculate only a 5% chance he was abducted by one of the Martians that have recently popped in-- & 20% that he has fallen into an XP-pit! | Angel | [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] |> PCR |> pcrrcp@netzero.net SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net Hi PCR, I suggested that he go to the library and use their computer to download a boot disk to a floppy. Maybe he got lost in the library. He could even go to another place where they have public access to a computer, such as Kinko's. I made that suggestion in my post 8/28/07 6:44 PM. I wonder if he will see that post. Of course others can also try the suggestion. Angel > | PCR, > | LOL!! Wondered what happened!! He just made that one post and [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > |> PCR > |> pcrrcp@netzero.net | Hi PCR, | I suggested that he go to the library and use their computer to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | 6:44 PM. I wonder if he will see that post. Of course others can also | try the suggestion. Angel I saw. It's a good suggestion for him or someone else looking in. OK, then. Very good. OK, bye. |> | PCR, |> | LOL!! Wondered what happened!! He just made that one post and [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] |> PCR |> pcrrcp@netzero.net SignatureThanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net > My kids were playing with my older laptop and tried to use the install disk. > Unfortunatly they did not complete the set-up process and I don't have an ID > Key. Microsoft support would not help me since the version is unsupported. > Any way to get a key for this thing? Download http://www.62nds.com/62nds/diag.exe to a floppy. Start the laptop, tap the F8 key repeatedly until the startup menu appears and select "Command Prompt". Then insert the floppy, type "a:\diag", press "Enter" and look for "Product Key". Ben Hi J T, Have you ever thought of going to the library and use their computer with a floppy drive and downloading the boot disk there? At least it is worth the try to solve the problem. That way you can get into the safe mode of the laptop. Angel > My kids were playing with my older laptop and tried to use the install disk. > Unfortunatly they did not complete the set-up process and I don't have an ID > Key. Microsoft support would not help me since the version is unsupported. > Any way to get a key for this thing? |
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