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S1L1Y1 - 19 May 2008 17:50 GMT
This question must probably does not belong here but I tried different
groups but got no answer.
I would very much appreciate if some body can help I have an XML file that
opens with internet explorer. Now I am trying to find for example all of the
following: ItemField Name="image-url. Then copy all the value for example
Value="http://www.abc.com/catalog/b3_1_424_1.JPG" /> . all the web addresses
found.
Sol
Franc Zabkar - 19 May 2008 10:21 GMT
>This question must probably does not belong here but I tried different
>groups but got no answer.
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>found.
>Sol

Can you give us a link to a complete .xml file as an example?

- Franc Zabkar
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Gary S. Terhune - 20 May 2008 01:31 GMT
Something wrong with your clock, Franc.

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>>This question must probably does not belong here but I tried different
>>groups but got no answer.
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>
> - Franc Zabkar
Franc Zabkar - 20 May 2008 08:21 GMT
>Something wrong with your clock, Franc.

Thanks.

Note to self:  change motherboard battery

- Franc Zabkar
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Gary S. Terhune - 19 May 2008 18:12 GMT
In short, you want to find all the web addresses in the XML file and list
them in something like a text file? If not that, Copy them to where? Is this
just a once-off job or are you planning on processing a lot of these things?
If the former, I should think it's pretty obvious -- use Edit>Find,
Copy/Paste,etc. For the latter, what you request sounds like an easy job for
VBScript. I certainly don't know of any ready-made tool that would do the
job.

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> This question must probably does not belong here but I tried different
> groups but got no answer.
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> found.
> Sol
MEB - 19 May 2008 18:31 GMT
Find In Context [an application] or similar might be what poster is looking
for.

Ultra Edit, NotePad++, and several other programs have a Find In Files
search tool, which may also work.

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| In short, you want to find all the web addresses in the XML file and list
| them in something like a text file? If not that, Copy them to where? Is this
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| > found.
| > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 19 May 2008 19:11 GMT
Boolean searches? I dunno. Don't know enough about the language to say.
Would seem to me to be a fairly complicated search term. Locate the URL only
if directly following Str2. And then define its beginning and end. And then,
like I said, Copy to what? Do those tools you cite generate lists?

But I know even less about the OP's desired results, so there you go.

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> Find In Context [an application] or similar might be what poster is
> looking
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> | > found.
> | > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 19 May 2008 19:21 GMT
I will copy to a list or excel file.
Sol
> Boolean searches? I dunno. Don't know enough about the language to say.
> Would seem to me to be a fairly complicated search term. Locate the URL only
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> > | > found.
> > | > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 19 May 2008 19:52 GMT
First is a snap, and one or more of those programs MEB suggested might
actually do such a thing, though I still think they'd have a hard time
actually, properly, locating the strings you want to copy out. No problem
with VBScript. Might take me a couple of hours, but I don't practice much.
For an Excel file, you'd just make the extension CSV instead of TXT.

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>I will copy to a list or excel file.
> Sol
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>> > | > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 19 May 2008 18:57 GMT
Thank You. It is both for now a one time job, and in the future I might need
it again. With the Edit>Find,
> Copy/Paste the problem is I have to keep on clicking next,and  there are
more then 300 entries .
Sol
> In short, you want to find all the web addresses in the XML file and list
> them in something like a text file? If not that, Copy them to where? Is this
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> > found.
> > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 19 May 2008 19:05 GMT
Also I am not familiar with  VBScript.
Sol
> Thank You. It is both for now a one time job, and in the future I might need
> it again. With the Edit>Find,
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> > > found.
> > > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 19 May 2008 19:43 GMT
Maybe you'd like to learn? It's quick (and dirty) compared to most
programming languages.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vbscript

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> Also I am not familiar with  VBScript.
> Sol
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>> > > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 19 May 2008 19:35 GMT
You still haven't answered the main question: Copy to where? A simple text
list? Something more complicated?

From what you say, you need a program or script, or other tool. Much too
tedious by hand. I don't think what MEB suggests is what you're looking for,
but you should at least check them out.

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> Thank You. It is both for now a one time job, and in the future I might
> need
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>> > found.
>> > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 19 May 2008 20:31 GMT
Right a simple list.
Sol
> You still haven't answered the main question: Copy to where? A simple text
> list? Something more complicated?
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> >> > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 19 May 2008 21:00 GMT
Well, then, you have my answer, and those of MEB.

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> Right a simple list.
> Sol
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>> >> > Sol
Jeff Richards - 19 May 2008 21:57 GMT
XML files are plain text.  Use facilities for searching and copying etc that
you would use for a text file.
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> This question must probably does not belong here but I tried different
> groups but got no answer.
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> found.
> Sol
S1L1Y1 - 19 May 2008 22:19 GMT
I will have to go one by one and will never finish. I tried I opened Excel
and then imported the data from the xml file and then went to find all and
it found all the entries but you can not copy and paste from there you would
still have to copy each one separate. There must be an easier way.
Solomon
> XML files are plain text.  Use facilities for searching and copying etc that
> you would use for a text file.
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> > found.
> > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 20 May 2008 01:06 GMT
Using Excel Find, you found all the URLs and they were automatically all
highlighted, all at once?

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>I will have to go one by one and will never finish. I tried I opened Excel
> and then imported the data from the xml file and then went to find all and
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>> > found.
>> > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 20 May 2008 23:11 GMT
That is the problem it seems to me that you can not highlight them all
because I tried to click shift and move down but not happened only the next
one got highlighted, or maybe I don't know how to do it here.
Sol
> Using Excel Find, you found all the URLs and they were automatically all
> highlighted, all at once?
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> >> > found.
> >> > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 21 May 2008 01:18 GMT
I did some experimenting of my own and saw what happens. For some reason
when you Find All, it turns into a multiple selection that can't be copied,
unlike when you select several separate cells manually, where copying is for
some reason OK. Go figure.

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> That is the problem it seems to me that you can not highlight them all
> because I tried to click shift and move down but not happened only the
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>> >> > found.
>> >> > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 21 May 2008 18:03 GMT
I was able to open it with word. Now I am trying to find all that start with
www.adc.com/, but the end is not the same. I am sending a sample;
="http://www.abc.com/catalog/b3_1_424_1.JPG" .
What do I enter in the find box?
Sol
> I did some experimenting of my own and saw what happens. For some reason
> when you Find All, it turns into a multiple selection that can't be copied,
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> >> >> > found.
> >> >> > Sol
Jeff Richards - 21 May 2008 21:57 GMT
Your sample is too tiny to for me be sure, but I would use something like
this:

Find Value="
Replace with ^p~

Find "
Replace with ^p

Sort

Delete all lines not starting with ~

Find ~
Replace with

(if i remember correctly that ^& is the find string)..   If you post a few
lines - say 10 - then I can see if the above will work or not.
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>I was able to open it with word. Now I am trying to find all that start
>with
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>> >> >> > found.
>> >> >> > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 21 May 2008 23:26 GMT
<ItemField Name="price" Value="13.27"/>
<ItemField Name="product-url"
Value="http://www.adc.com/servlet/the-424/JEWELRY-BOX-GIFTWARE/Detail"/>
<ItemField Name="merchant-site-category" Value="JEWELRY BOXES"/>
<ItemField Name="image-url"
Value="http://www.adc.com/catalog/b3_1_424_1.JPG"/>
<ItemField Name="upc" Value=""/>
<ItemField Name="isbn" Value=""/>
<ItemField Name="manufacturer" Value=""/>
<ItemField Name="manufacturer-part-no" Value=""/>
<ItemField Name="classification" Value="new"/>
<ItemField Name="in-stock" Value="Y"/>
<ItemField Name="shipping-price" Value="5.00"/>
<ItemField Name="shipping-weight" Value="1.2"/>

> Your sample is too tiny to for me be sure, but I would use something like
> this:
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> >> >> >> > found.
> >> >> >> > Sol
Jeff Richards - 22 May 2008 08:52 GMT
This will work. Create the document as a txt file and use Open With to open
it in WORD. Use Find and Replace as indicated:

Find What: Value="http
Replace With: ^p~
Replace All

Find What: "/>
Replace With:
Replace All

Sort

Delete all lines not starting with ~

Find What: ~
Replace With: http
Replace All
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> <ItemField Name="price" Value="13.27"/>
> <ItemField Name="product-url"
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>> >> >> >> > found.
>> >> >> >> > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 22 May 2008 16:05 GMT
Only problem would be if there is a ~ (tilde) in any of the URLs. Seems to
me I've seen them, but perhaps not?

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> This will work. Create the document as a txt file and use Open With to
> open it in WORD. Use Find and Replace as indicated:
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>>> >> >> >> > found.
>>> >> >> >> > Sol
Jeff Richards - 22 May 2008 21:55 GMT
Any character that doesn't appear elsewhere in the file will work - the
vertical bar is also a good choice.  If there's a difficulty, use an
unlikely combination of unusual characters instead of a single character.
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> Only problem would be if there is a ~ (tilde) in any of the URLs. Seems to
> me I've seen them, but perhaps not?
S1L1Y1 - 22 May 2008 19:48 GMT
Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! YOU ARE GREAT.
We are starting to get there. Now I have a problem that it does not sort in
the original order. When I copy and paste it to my Excel file it has to
match to the other columns.
Sol
> This will work. Create the document as a txt file and use Open With to open
> it in WORD. Use Find and Replace as indicated:
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> >> >> >> >> > found.
> >> >> >> >> > Sol
Jeff Richards - 22 May 2008 21:52 GMT
That's why it is so important that you provide a FULL description of what
you are trying to do BEFORE we start to tackle your problem.  You haven't
explained why you need to use EXCEL, which is very limited for this type of
exercise.

After the replace and just before the sort, cut and paste the whole thing
into a blank EXCEL sheet.  Add a column to the right with an incrementing
number (using a formula), copy the column, and paste special as values back
to the same location as the original column. Then sort in EXCEL, delete the
rows you don't need, and re-sort by the extra column to get back to the
original order. Delete the extra column. I don't know whether you an then
finish it in EXCEL, (probably) or you need to export as text and finish in
WORD, but the process is essentially the same.
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> Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! YOU ARE GREAT.
> We are starting to get there. Now I have a problem that it does not sort
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>> >> >> >> >> > found.
>> >> >> >> >> > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 26 May 2008 20:42 GMT
Can I undo sort after I delete or cut /
Sol
> That's why it is so important that you provide a FULL description of what
> you are trying to do BEFORE we start to tackle your problem.  You haven't
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> >> > <ItemField Name="price" Value="13.27"/>
> >> > <ItemField Name="product-url"

Value="http://www.adc.com/servlet/the-424/JEWELRY-BOX-GIFTWARE/Detail"/>
> >> > <ItemField Name="merchant-site-category" Value="JEWELRY BOXES"/>
> >> > <ItemField Name="image-url"
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> >> >> >> >> >> > found.
> >> >> >> >> >> > Sol
Jeff Richards - 26 May 2008 21:47 GMT
Yes - if you create a column of incrementing values BEFORE doing the sort
then use that column to sort on AFTER doing the delete, like I said..
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> Can I undo sort after I delete or cut /
> Sol
S1L1Y1 - 26 May 2008 23:26 GMT
I am very not knowledgeable so I would appreciate if you can explain.
Sol
> Yes - if you create a column of incrementing values BEFORE doing the sort
> then use that column to sort on AFTER doing the delete, like I said..
> > Can I undo sort after I delete or cut /
> > Sol
Jeff Richards - 27 May 2008 10:41 GMT
Why are you using EXCEL for this job?  It's not a good tool for this sort of
task, and now you say that you are not very knowledgeable about it.  You
seem determined to make this job as difficult as possible.

You create a column of incrementing numbers by putting a 1 in the first cell
and then a formula in the cell below it that adds one to the value from the
cell above.  Then copy down from the second cell to the bottom of the range.

You convert the column from formulas to values by copying the column then
using paste special and selecting values and pasting it back to where it
came from.

You sort by selecting the whole spreadsheet, choosing sort, and nominating
the column containing the text data.

Then delete the lines you aren't interested in - they will be in blocks
before and after the lines you need.

Sort back into the original sequence by selecting the whole sheet, selecting
sort, and nominating the column with the numbers in it.

These are elementary EXCEL questions that are best asked in an EXCEL
newsgroup.
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>I am very not knowledgeable so I would appreciate if you can explain.
> Sol
>> Yes - if you create a column of incrementing values BEFORE doing the sort
>> then use that column to sort on AFTER doing the delete, like I said..
>> > Can I undo sort after I delete or cut /
>> > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 23 May 2008 00:08 GMT
You are close to the most frustrating person to land in this NG in a long
time!

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? Not the intermediate steps you keep asking about,
like extracting and sorting. What is your FINAL GOAL? What does your Excel
file look like?

Here's my email address: gryst_at_grystmill.com (please tell me you know how
to make that a real email address.) Please send me as many XML files as you
have for samples, and your Excel file(s), too. Then I can put it on my
website for others to download and review, also.

If you haven't totally pissed off everyone, you may yet get an answer. A
search of Google Groups shows that you have indeed gotten LOTS of attempts
help you, in this group and in the Office.Misc group (and why not Excel?)
Oh, and now a couple of weak attempts in the Excel group where you haven't
given them any real info to work with either. (If you give me the files to
post, even the Excel guys & gals can access them.)

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> Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! YOU ARE GREAT.
> We are starting to get there. Now I have a problem that it does not sort
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>> >> >> >> >> > found.
>> >> >> >> >> > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 26 May 2008 18:23 GMT
Jeff,
If you can help me with one more thing I will very much appreciate I asked
already this questions and got replies but I don't understand them.
I have an Excel files with a column of only the end of the urls. I want to
add to each one the same beginning of the url, www.adc.com/. How do I do it
without having to go to each individual and paste?
Sol
> This will work. Create the document as a txt file and use Open With to open
> it in WORD. Use Find and Replace as indicated:
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> >> >> >> >> > found.
> >> >> >> >> > Sol
Jeff Richards - 26 May 2008 21:51 GMT
You already got an answer to this one.

Create a formula in an adjacent column that uses the CONCATENATE function to
prepend a fixed text string to the beginning of the text in the first
column.

Put the formula in the first cell of the column, test it, then copy down to
automatically put it in each other cell.  Copy and paste special (Values) to
turn it from a formula into a value.

These questions are best asked in an EXCEL group - they have nothing to do
with W98.
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> Jeff,
> If you can help me with one more thing I will very much appreciate I asked
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> without having to go to each individual and paste?
> Sol
Franc Zabkar - 22 May 2008 21:19 GMT
><ItemField Name="price" Value="13.27"/>
><ItemField Name="product-url"
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><ItemField Name="shipping-price" Value="5.00"/>
><ItemField Name="shipping-weight" Value="1.2"/>

If I understand the problem correctly, then the following one-line
command may be close to what you want:

find /i "<ItemField Name=""image-url Value=" "filename.xml" | find /i
"http://" > your_path_name\urls.txt

Execute the command in a DOS window (watch out for word wrap). The
URLs are written to a file named your_path_name\urls.txt.
"Filename.xml" is the name of your XML file. I'm assuming that
"ItemField Name" and "Value" appear on the same line. An actual
example XML file would have helped.

- Franc Zabkar
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Gary S. Terhune - 20 May 2008 02:08 GMT
In case you can't see Franc's post, he suggests you put a copy online (not
posted here to the NG, put it on a private website.) Put a link here. Then
we can see just what you're talking about and play with the file ourselves.

If you want the result to be an Excel file, that suggests that it would be
simplest to write a macro, if a macro can do the job.

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>I will have to go one by one and will never finish. I tried I opened Excel
> and then imported the data from the xml file and then went to find all and
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>> > found.
>> > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 20 May 2008 23:13 GMT
How do I write a macro and what does it do?
Sol
> In case you can't see Franc's post, he suggests you put a copy online (not
> posted here to the NG, put it on a private website.) Put a link here. Then
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> >> > found.
> >> > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 21 May 2008 01:21 GMT
A macro is program, so you have to learn to write in that program's
language, which is some form of VBA, Visual Basic for Applications. Like
VBScript, VBA is also fairly easy to learn. Look in your Office Help or
Google it.

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> How do I write a macro and what does it do?
> Sol
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>> >> > found.
>> >> > Sol
Jeff Richards - 20 May 2008 10:22 GMT
I'm surprised that you are using EXCEL as your text editor.

using WORD is much easier (although there are specialised text editors that
would make it a snap).    Use Find and Replace (with judicious use of the
special characters, such as paragraph mark or 'any letter' etc) to make the
text you require significant - eg bounded by tilde (~) or some other
character that doesn't otherwise appear.  Get this text onto a line by
itself, probably by using replace to insert a paragraph mark at the
appropriate point.  Then sort.  Then delete everything you don't want (it
will be in contiguous lines). Then remove any characters you added.
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>I will have to go one by one and will never finish. I tried I opened Excel
> and then imported the data from the xml file and then went to find all and
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>> > found.
>> > Sol
S1L1Y1 - 20 May 2008 23:43 GMT
I was able to open it with word. Now I am trying to find all that start with
www.adc.com/, but the end is not the same. I am sending a sample;
="http://www.abc.com/catalog/b3_1_424_1.JPG" .
What do I enter in the find box?
Sol
> I'm surprised that you are using EXCEL as your text editor.
>
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> >> > found.
> >> > Sol
Gary S. Terhune - 22 May 2008 05:00 GMT
Here's a script I wrote to do the job. You're welcome to try it out. I'm
putting it on my website inside a ZIP file for easier downloading. You
should create a folder just for this script. When you want to analyze an XML
file, put it into the same folder with the script, then run the script.

I am posting the contents here for review, but it's better to download the
file. DO NOT try to copy the script from this post for use unless you know
VBS and can fix the broken lines due to wrapping. If you want to put the
results file into an Excel sheet, change the extension from TXT to CSV. Or
paste the text into Word for sorting. I did not concern myself with removing
any possible duplications or sorting. Yet.
http://grystmill.com/shared/FindURL.zip

Feedback is welcome. To a certain degree, <s>.

****************************************
Option Explicit

dim WshShell, fso, f, fl, fn, ln, s, r, q

Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set WshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
f = WshShell.CurrentDirectory

'Obtain name of file to be analyzed.
      'line 10
Do Until fn <> ""
 fn = InputBox("Please input the name of the file you wish to analyze.
Example: MyFirstXML.xml " & _
      " Note that the file must be in the same folder as this script --  "
& f & ".")
 If fn = "" Then
    If MsgBox("Input is invalid. Press OK to try again, or Cancel to stop
this script from running.", _
                    1, "FindURL.vbs -- Error!") = 2 Then WScript.Quit
 End If
 If (fso.FileExists(f & "\" & fn)) <> True Then
    If MsgBox("Input is invalid. Press OK to try again, or Cancel to stop
this script from running.", _
                    1, "FindURL.vbs -- Error!") = 2 Then WScript.Quit
'line20
 End If
Loop

If (fso.FileExists(f & "\URLs_" & Left(fn, Len(fn) - 3) & "txt")) <> True
Then
 Set r = fso.CreateTextFile(f & "\URLs_" & Left(fn, Len(fn) - 3) & "txt")
Else
 q = MsgBox("A file named " & f & "\URLs_" & Left(fn, Len(fn) - 3) & "txt"
& _
                    ", already exists. Press YES to overwrite the old file"
& _
                    ", or NO to append new URLs to the existing results
file." & _
                    " Press Cancel to stop the analysis.", 3 + 48 + 0)
'line 30
  If q = 2 Then WScript.Quit
  If q = 6 Then Set r = fso.CreateTextFile(f & "\URLs_" & Left(fn,
Len(fn) - 3) & "txt", True)
  If q = 7 Then Set r = fso.OpenTextFile(f & "\URLs_" & Left(fn, Len(fn) -
3) & "txt", 8)
End If

Set fl = fso.OpenTextFile(f & "\" & fn, 1)
Do While fl.AtEndOfStream <> True
 ln = fl.ReadLine
 If InStr(ln, "http://") > 0 Then
   s = InStr(ln, "http://")   'line 40
   ln = Right(ln, Len(ln) - s + 1)
   ln = Left(ln, Len(ln) - 3)
   r.WriteLine(ln)
 End If
Loop

WScript.Quit

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> This question must probably does not belong here but I tried different
> groups but got no answer.
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> found.
> Sol
 
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