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Jim - 26 May 2008 02:07 GMT
One day I was talking/complaining with a knowedgeable person about the lack
of zipfile support in win98se. The significant other said, "windows has a
zipfile extraction capability." Where is this located in win98se? Does this
compress files also?
Ron Badour - 26 May 2008 02:40 GMT
Ask significant other (SO) to show you--SO will have a VERY tough time
finding it :-)

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> One day I was talking/complaining with a knowedgeable person about the
> lack
> of zipfile support in win98se. The significant other said, "windows has a
> zipfile extraction capability." Where is this located in win98se? Does
> this
> compress files also?
Bill in Co. - 26 May 2008 02:53 GMT
It's no big deal though!   Just install WinZip.    She must be thinking of
XP.   (I won't even mention Vista here (snort).

> Ask significant other (SO) to show you--SO will have a VERY tough time
> finding it :-)
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>> this
>> compress files also?
glee - 26 May 2008 12:04 GMT
Why XP?  IIRC, Win ME has native zip file support.  No need to leave the 9x family
for it.  ;-)
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> It's no big deal though!   Just install WinZip.    She must be thinking of XP.
> (I won't even mention Vista here (snort).
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>>> this
>>> compress files also?
philo - 26 May 2008 12:46 GMT
> Why XP?  IIRC, Win ME has native zip file support.  No need to leave the 9x family
> for it.  ;-)

Unless may they were simply thinking about Win98's ability to view and
extract .cab files

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
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> >>> this
> >>> compress files also?
Jim - 26 May 2008 15:10 GMT
This is what I was thinking too, the system file checker extractor. I did
find an Iomeaga handel called USBzip.sys and a USBzip.inf file in the
C:\Windows\System and Inf   locations.

> > Why XP?  IIRC, Win ME has native zip file support.  No need to leave the
> 9x family
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> > >>> this
> > >>> compress files also?
Mart - 26 May 2008 16:31 GMT
Iomega Zip Disk is/was a type of storage device - similar in principle to a
floppy disk, but 100MB (and 750MB - IIRC) in size. It required a further
piece of hardware called a Zip Drive (hence the need for the USBzip.sys and
a USBzip.inf files and other driver files) to run these Zip disks.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_drive

The "Zip" in this context has no bearing in 'zipping and unzipping' files
using compression techniques referred to in the subject title.

Mart

> This is what I was thinking too, the system file checker extractor. I did
> find an Iomeaga handel called USBzip.sys and a USBzip.inf file in the
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>> > >>> this
>> > >>> compress files also?
Bill in Co. - 26 May 2008 20:27 GMT
100 MB and 250 MB (not 750 MB), as I recall.    Never got that larger one -
was quite "content" (but that's a qualified content, especially in trying to
access it in DOS, and the driver problems, etc) with the 100 MB size.

But ever since USB flash drives came in, I don't miss the zip drives at all.
:-)

> Iomega Zip Disk is/was a type of storage device - similar in principle to
> a
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>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> compress files also?
Mart - 26 May 2008 20:41 GMT
Yes Bill, they did do a 750 MB version (not that I ever had one - see
http://www.iomega.com/direct/products/family.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=26891285&
bmUID=1211830418324
)
But I do still (rarely) use my Zip100 USB connected to this XP box.   Like
you, I agree, USB flash/pen drives are far more convenient - and an awful
lot cheaper!

Mart

> 100 MB and 250 MB (not 750 MB), as I recall.    Never got that larger
> one - was quite "content" (but that's a qualified content, especially in
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>>>>>>>> compress files also?
Bill in Co. - 26 May 2008 20:50 GMT
OK, I stand corrected.    I guess there were at least 3 versions then (100
MB, 250 MB, 750 MB).

Agree with you about Flash drives.   And - no moving parts inside, either.
:-)

> Yes Bill, they did do a 750 MB version (not that I ever had one - see
> http://www.iomega.com/direct/products/family.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=26891285&
bmUID=1211830418324
)
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>>>>>>>>> compress files also?
Jim - 27 May 2008 16:58 GMT
Thanks,
I remember those drives. This was my thoughts too. So I am assumming that
there is no zipfile application in win98.x.

> Iomega Zip Disk is/was a type of storage device - similar in principle to a
> floppy disk, but 100MB (and 750MB - IIRC) in size. It required a further
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> >> > >>> this
> >> > >>> compress files also?
Gary S. Terhune - 27 May 2008 17:21 GMT
There is no such in the basic Win98/98SE install. Only the ability to view
the insides of CAB files and extract the contents. A VB developers' Package
and Deployment Wizard (PDW),  includes a few more useful CAB file tools,
including the ability to create CAB files, add/remove files, etc.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198038

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> Thanks,
> I remember those drives. This was my thoughts too. So I am assumming that
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>> >> > >>> this
>> >> > >>> compress files also?
Jim - 27 May 2008 17:34 GMT
Thanks, that resolves the question.

> There is no such in the basic Win98/98SE install. Only the ability to view
> the insides of CAB files and extract the contents. A VB developers' Package
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> >> >> > >>> compress files also?
Bill in Co. - 26 May 2008 20:30 GMT
I forgot about ME.    (I went from 98 to XP (well, I have both), and
bypassed ME.
I guess the one good thing about ME (over 98) was the better USB support.
Otherwise, I kinda think about ME about the same way I think about Vista -
as a "misfit".     :-)

> Why XP?  IIRC, Win ME has native zip file support.  No need to leave the
> 9x
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>>>> this
>>>> compress files also?
letterman@invalid.com - 27 May 2008 05:42 GMT
>Why XP?  IIRC, Win ME has native zip file support.  No need to leave the 9x family
>for it.  ;-)

It does?
I never knew that...

I only played with ME briefly.  Actually I once considered upgrading
to ME, but many people told me to avoid it because of all the bugs.
That's the only reason I never upgraded.  I like Win98.  I did not
like Win2k or XP.  But I seriously considered going to ME because if
for no other reason, it handles USP devices more easily.  Since it
looks like Win98 and works nearly the same, I would have upgraded, if
I had not been told by numerous people to avoid it.  I even have a
legal copy of ME.  

I installed it on a spare harddrive just for grins.  It seemed to work
well for me, but I did not play with it very long.
glee - 27 May 2008 19:54 GMT
from the Technical Details section of Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-054
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS02-054.mspx:

<quote>
On Windows 98 with Plus! Pack, Windows Me and Windows XP, the Compressed Folders
feature allows zipped files to be treated as folders. The Compressed Folders feature
can be used to create, add files to, and extract files from zipped files.
</quote>

Compress Folders with Windows ME
http://www.worldstart.com/tips/tips.php/1381

How to create and extract a Zip File in Windows ME/XP/2003
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial105.html

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>>Why XP?  IIRC, Win ME has native zip file support.  No need to leave the 9x family
>>for it.  ;-)
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> I installed it on a spare harddrive just for grins.  It seemed to work
> well for me, but I did not play with it very long.
Etal - 27 May 2008 00:27 GMT
> One day I was talking/complaining with a knowedgeable person about the lack
> of zipfile support in win98se. The significant other said, "windows has a
> zipfile extraction capability." Where is this located in win98se? Does this
> compress files also?

In the expansion-pack to the base-game, ms included this.

BaseGame: Win98xE
ExpansionPack: Plus! (for Win98)

A security-update for this is found on the 'Security Update CD'
[329048usa8.exe]

Why would anyone, when we are given 7-Zip?

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