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Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall group and the security group and they pointed me to http://www.oldapps.com/. I did not see Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works with windows 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone have a recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is suggested for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better security, then one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is far better than one that is setup for general usage. This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request information on what to do with the connection or files until you have *trained* them or written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know whether a file or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to attempt to use one of these as you might accidentally allow something that shouldn't be. If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of firewall, then the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm versions. This uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it may have some issues [see the site's history/update information].  SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall group and | the security group and they pointed me to http://www.oldapps.com/. I did not see | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works with windows | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone have a | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is suggested | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing it. and took up a lot of space. But thanks. > That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better security, then > one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is far better [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > suggested > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt secure with it. (by the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I have never had a virus, Trojan Horse or anything stronger than a tracking cookie. This I attribute to asking for advice from people who knew more than I did. My son has had many, many. He is brilliant at other things but won't take time to use recourses. Believe it or not he calls me for help and sends his important data for me to store! I don't even have back ups. That is why it is important that this computer doesn't die before I get a new one. Is there a version you can give me that I can download that works well with Windows 98se? They have very good forums (or had), and I don't have to write e-mails to Russia that get answered 5 days later. Thank you. Ginny > I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing it. and took up a > lot of space. But thanks. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > suggested > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? Again, this will be your choice, the best available is generally rules based as I previously indicated. Any recommended Zone Alarm is beyond support and considered as defunct, but so is the OS so... http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_download_ZoneAlarm.php Perhaps someone can apprise you of what would be best for you, or you may remember what version you were using. I went right up to the last year or so before support end using ZA, but I have no persoanl information on the last versions. SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ | MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt secure with it. (by | the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I have never had a [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] | > > suggested | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? Thanks, What version was that? the one you installed? Ginny > Again, this will be your choice, the best available is generally rules based > as I previously indicated. [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > | > > suggested > | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? Let's do this, try using Sygate for awhile, it won't take long to get it configured, and see if you can live with it. If you can't, then I'll supply some more information and dig out the old info,,, OR we'll help you setup Kerio PF,,, sound like a good deal? SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ | Thanks, What version was that? the one you installed? Ginny | [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] | > | > > suggested | > | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? Great. Thank you. Ginny > Let's do this, try using Sygate for awhile, it won't take long to get it > configured, and see if you can live with it. If you can't, then I'll supply [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > | > | > > suggested > | > | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? Hello: If you are interested in installing Zone Alarm for Win 98/ME, go to the Zone Alarm Free product page ( http://www.zonealarm.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp ) and click on the systems requirement link (http://www.zonealarm.com/store/catalog/products/modules/znalm/sys_req.jsp ). This will show, in part, the following: Windows 98se/ME Support Discontinued On July 11, 2006, Microsoft will end support for Windows 98, 98SE and Me, which will have the resulting effect of making these operating systems less secure (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/support/endofsupport.mspx). Windows 98/Me are older operating systems, and therefore inherently more vulnerable to attacks than newer operating systems. Now that Microsoft will no longer provide security updates to this operating system it will become increasingly prone to security vulnerabilities. Accordingly, Check Point will cease to support Windows 98/98SE/Me with the introduction of our version 6.5 ZoneAlarm family of products including ZoneAlarm® Internet Security Suite, ZoneAlarm® Pro, ZoneAlarm® Antivirus, ZoneAlarm® Anti-Spyware, and ZoneAlarm®. Note about pre-6.5 products: a.. Pre-6.5 products will continue to run on the Windows 98/98SE/Me operating system. However, there are a few new and advanced protection features in ZoneAlarm products that will not run due to technical limitations of this operating system. ZoneAlarm strongly recommends upgrading to a supported and current version of the Windows operating system. b.. ZoneAlarm may end services to pre-6.5 products at any time." So you will want to download the last build of Zone Alarm 6.1, which is shown as 6.1.744.001 at ( http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/information/znalm/zaReleaseHistory.html). It can also be downloaded from this page.. Cheers, O.J. > Thanks, What version was that? the one you installed? Ginny > [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] >> | > > suggested >> | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > updates to this operating system it will become > increasingly prone to security vulnerabilities. 95 and 98 are vastly more secure than XP (let alone Disasta) not to mention half of those OS's is not MS/RIAA/MPAA/NSA spyware and backdoors. SignatureWe look at each other; see that we do not know each other, stare, and go off. Such looks are lashes. I feel the whole cruelty and indifference of the world in them. - Virginia Woolf Does ZA rely upon any "definitions" updates (not sure what to call them... Rules? Or can it stand on its own once installed on Win9x? SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 144 lines] >>> | > > suggested >>> | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? Hi Gary! My experience with Zone Alarm is that it does *not* rely on any definitions updates, but stands on its own. The only updating that is done (in my experience) is that of asking the user for permission when a program on the PC attempts to access the Internet. It does this my means of a simple dialog box when a program attempts to access the Internet for the first time, or if the program executable has been changed. This record (rules) of allowed and dis-allowed programs in maintained in a table that is easily accessed by the user in case they want to change any of the permissions previously granted or denied. HTH, O.J. > Does ZA rely upon any "definitions" updates (not sure what to call them... > Rules? Or can it stand on its own once installed on Win9x? [quoted text clipped - 150 lines] >>>> | > > suggested >>>> | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? Thanks! So it's like Sygate, then, and requires full training at the outset? Have you seen our Sygate discussion from today? SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com > Hi Gary! > [quoted text clipped - 168 lines] >>>>> | > > suggested >>>>> | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? > Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall group and > the security group and they pointed me to http://www.oldapps.com/. I did not see > Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works with windows > 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone have a > recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is suggested > for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? I have been running Sygate Pro v5.5-2710 on my Win98 for quite a few years. Prior to that I was running Sygate v4.x. Soon after I got Win98 I realized I needed a firewall. ZoneAlarm, Kero, and Sygate were all popular then--I flipped a coin and got Sygate. Sygate has served me well all this time. If I had problems, it was me not the software. he he Casey > In article <483d88fd$0$11619$607ed...@cv.net>, ginny...@nospam.com > says...> Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall group [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > If I had problems, it was me not the software. he he > Casey I am using Sygate 5.5 2710 (the version for Win98SE) very successfully, along with Avast, Super AntiSpyware Free, Spyware Blaster. As a non-techie, this combination seems to keep my computer very secure. In article <0f66abd7-4d01-4c61-9cde- 85ac4fdfcaec@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, pixturesk@gmail.com says... > > In article <483d88fd$0$11619$607ed...@cv.net>, ginny...@nospam.com > > says...> Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall group [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Blaster. As a non-techie, this combination seems to keep my computer > very secure. Those are good antimalware selections. I too am using Avast, SuperAntiSpyware, and Spybot S&D. > Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question > of the firewall group and the security group and they [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is suggested for > win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions? I have a 95B machine (10½ years old and going strong). It has been tweaked extensively and is recognized by most web servers as a 98 machine. Anyway, I used to use Black Ice but a few years ago I started getting a lot of freezes - possibly due to DOS attacks, I never found out. I switched to Agnitum Outpost, version 1, ©1999-2002, free. Works like a charm. http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=outfirewall Yes, the FIRST one. Older IS better - all that's new in 95% of programs, is eye sh.t and pig bloat. I HAVE tried quite a few others - Kerio, Tiny, etc. Buggy or weird, or "just didn't feel right", or would not run on 95B. I /also/ tried Zone Alarm. Stay the hell away from it. It is totally ridiculous. BTW, there is a piece of software called "Proxomitron". I used it before firewalls became common - you might want to check it out, it's quite good, I sometimes think I should install it again. SignatureWe look at each other; see that we do not know each other, stare, and go off. Such looks are lashes. I feel the whole cruelty and indifference of the world in them. - Virginia Woolf Thanks. Ginny > > Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question > > of the firewall group and the security group and they [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > out, it's quite good, I sometimes think I should install it > again. |
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