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How do you create a tiny url, please. >How do you create a tiny url, please. www.tinyurl.com  SignatureTim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt >How do you create a tiny url, please. This is one way: http://tinyurl.com/ Using Google to search for "shorten a url" -tinyurl -"tiny url" gives ... http://www.shortenurl.com/ http://notlong.com/ http://rapidmyspace.com/apps/shorturl/ http://jhurl.com/ http://www.gowwwgo.com/ http://57x.org/ http://www.lizurl.com/ ... and lots more ??? Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site. - Franc Zabkar SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. > Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden > destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site. Any site can /try to/ redirect my requests .. but i want to be given half a chance to know if the destination is something i might be interested in. That's why i dislike them, like when you see someone writing "It's all explained if you look at prot://tiny_url/xzrt". Not just because of the malware-threat, but i have no idea if that links to a resource i have visited already or maybe to a resource i know i have no interest in. IMO. Just enclose your long links in < and > instead. SignatureNah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. Please followup in the newsgroup. E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. >> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden >> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >IMO. Just enclose your long links in < and > instead. TinyURL now has a preview option. For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups archive: http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6 The above page displays the following: =========================================================== Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6 This TinyURL redirects to: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566 =========================================================== - Franc Zabkar SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. Yeah, I should put that one into my Links folder instead of the standard one. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com >>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden >>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - Franc Zabkar Nope, can't make it so the Preview link is copied to the clipboard automatically. I'll stick with normal TinyURLs and try to remember that it's a good thing to include the real link, then the TinyURL, like I usually do. However, going at it from a different angle, those who wish to can enable a cookie that will cause any TinyURL link to be redirected to the Preview page. You enable/disable that here: http://tinyurl.com/preview.php SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com >>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden >>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - Franc Zabkar >Nope, can't make it so the Preview link is copied to the clipboard >automatically. I'll stick with normal TinyURLs and try to remember that it's >a good thing to include the real link, then the TinyURL, like I usually do. I'm not sure what you are trying to do. If you are the creator of a particular tiny URL, then the tinyURL web site gives you two options, a direct link and a preview link. AFAICT, you would just need to post the preview URL instead of the direct one. Or did I misunderstand you? >However, going at it from a different angle, those who wish to can enable a >cookie that will cause any TinyURL link to be redirected to the Preview >page. You enable/disable that here: >http://tinyurl.com/preview.php - Franc Zabkar SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. >>Nope, can't make it so the Preview link is copied to the clipboard >>automatically. I'll stick with normal TinyURLs and try to remember that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > a direct link and a preview link. AFAICT, you would just need to post > the preview URL instead of the direct one. Or did I misunderstand you? TinyURL has a shortcut that you ca put into the Links folder in IE and when you click the link, it takes you to TinyURL page AND copies the TinyURL to the Clipboard for easy pasting. But that's the TinyURL, not the Preview link. To get that, I'd have to wait for the TinyURL page to laod and then copy the Preview URL from the page before I could paste it. WHen I hit that shortcut in the Links bar, by the time I get back to teh OE message I'm working on, the TinyURL is already on teh clipboard and a quick Ctrl-V finishes the job. Getting teh Preview TinyURL into a message would take three times longer or more. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com > Etal composed: > >>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden >>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site. [snip] > TinyURL now has a preview option. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566 > =========================================================== I didn't know about that, thanks. <http://preview.tinyurl.com/> now bookmarked should i come across one of them tiny devils that entices me enough to want to click on it. I tried to see if that was possible with one of them short-URL places a couple of years ago but didn't see a way then. Good to see that it's not only me and that there seem to be pressure to provide that possibility. SignatureNah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. Please followup in the newsgroup. E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. >> Etal composed: >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >see that it's not only me and that there seem to be pressure to >provide that possibility. BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866 429913786 The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it. - Franc Zabkar SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. Why would a message posted on a different news server manage to get by the MS bots when a direct connection gets it filtered out? Puzzles me. I've have had many totally acceptable messages dumped over the last month or two. Mostly, I just totally rewrite the message and try it again. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com >>> Etal composed: >>> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > - Franc Zabkar >Why would a message posted on a different news server manage to get by the >MS bots when a direct connection gets it filtered out? Puzzles me. My newsreader, Agent, allows me to use several news servers in my "access plan". My own messages are posted using the first available server in the plan. If news.microsoft.com is first, then its bot filters my messages, dumps any it doesn't like, and doesn't pass them on to the wider Internet. So nobody sees them. If news.internode.on.net is first, then it accepts all of my messages and propagates them to other news servers, including, but not limited to, news.microsoft.com. I see every message in my news feed because I retrieve messages from all news servers in my access plan, not just MS. Etal can see my posts because he gets his feed from nntp.aioe.org. You, however, will not see my filtered messages if MS is your sole provider. To put it another way, my message is posted to news.internode.on.net which then propagates it to nntp.aioe.org and news.microsoft.com. Etal and I can see it in our own news feeds, but MS filters it before it can be delivered to you. - Franc Zabkar SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. Well, I got it I think... the original... from MS according to the header on the link you posted and the one in OE... Was it this one: NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:06:56 -0500 Subject: Re: tiny urls Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:06:58 +1000 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.44.34.84 Path: {several deleted}local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.internode!news.posted.inte rnode.POSTED!not-for-mail SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ | >> Etal composed: | >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] | | BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866 429913786 | The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to | use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are | getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it. | | - Franc Zabkar >Well, I got it I think... the original... from MS according to the header on >the link you posted and the one in OE... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >deleted}local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.internode!news.posted.inte >rnode.POSTED!not-for-mail Sorry, I'm being somewhat ambiguous. What you are seeing is my second attempt ... when I reposted successfully via Internode (which uses Giganews). I posted the same message to the MS news server first, but it didn't show up in my news feed. This was the attempt that didn't get through: ===================================================== From: Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion Subject: Re: tiny urls Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:29:40 +1000 Organization: Bachelor Life Ltd Reply-To: fzabkar@iinternode.on.net Message-ID: <09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com> References: <uCyREsi1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 ===================================================== If you search for the above Message-ID at Google Groups ... http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc%404ax.com ... you get ... "The requested message, 09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com, could not be found." - Franc Zabkar SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. Okay, that's why I posted that information to confirm... it just SEEMED to be the same as the times were identical. So what are you doing - multi-posting via several services at the same time? That would produce multiples which WOULD be filtered depending upon which came through first. That also might trigger Spam filters. The only way I can get multiple posts to appear is: such as recently in "Re: Microsoft Phasing Out Win98 !?" in which the MS server never returned the "received/posted" due to access failure, and upon re-connect, the message was resent. My reader shows two response from me containing the exact same message. SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ | >Well, I got it I think... the original... from MS according to the header on | >the link you posted and the one in OE... [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] | | If you search for the above Message-ID at Google Groups ... http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc%404ax.com | ... you get ... | | "The requested message, 09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com, | could not be found." | | - Franc Zabkar >Okay, that's why I posted that information to confirm... it just SEEMED to >be the same as the times were identical. > So what are you doing - multi-posting via several services at the same >time? No, I use only one server for posting each message. Messages to MS NGs default to the MS news server, messages to other NGs go via my ISP's news server. Only when I have difficulty posting a particular message to an MS group do I temporarily switch to using my ISP's news server. >That would produce multiples which WOULD be filtered depending upon >which came through first. That also might trigger Spam filters. That doesn't happen. I only use both servers when *receiving* messages. This allows me to minimise the effects of a broken news feed, ie one server may have parts of a thread that the other doesn't. - Franc Zabkar SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. | >Okay, that's why I posted that information to confirm... it just SEEMED to | >be the same as the times were identical. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] | | - Franc Zabkar Okay, just clarifying. Like I said, my query was based upon the compared times indicated rather than the actual post indicator. But yeah, depending upon where you receive your news, it may have lots of materials not on MS.. SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ >>>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden >>>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site. >> [snip] > BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread: > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866 429913786 > > The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to > use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are > getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it. ( You aren't trying to write about rising waters again, are you? ;-) ) That link opens Message-ID: <news:tdo2641auo01ggil7rc2hl7cjhmnd7vvfs@4ax.com>. That is the post to which i made a followup and that there is a remnant of at the top. If one look at the threads layout at google-groups: <http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/browse_frm/ thread/be745ca45229236e/>, it looks the same as what i see via AIOE, but i just downloaded the group-headers from <news:msnews.microsoft.com> and your post is indeed missing there. Too bad for the ones using that server that i snipped your excellent on topic advice to the OP, 'CdLsRN', or rather i was lucky doing it or my post wouldn't have gotten through to them either i suppose. So unless it was just a glitch at there servers, if i'll try to repost/quote your advice here without knowing the offending word it would just be filtered there again. :-( SignatureNah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. Please followup in the newsgroup. E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. > How do you create a tiny url, please. Don't feed it when it's young.... (See Tim's reply if you want the real answer) SignatureGlen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm |
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