Here's the text of an email I sent to a friend who is good
with computer problems yesterday. He's stumped, and
referred me to this Newsgroup:
> Edward,
>
> You've worked on my computer before, so I'm sure you're
familliar with the
> specs. I have a 19.1 GB hard drive, 256 MB Ram, and
thanks to that, have
> never had any serious memory problems until now.
>
> Recently, I had searched my C:\ drive to see how much
space I had left, as
> I knew I needed to clean out old programs and such. I
found I had just
> over 2 GB free, and immediately cleared out a bunch of
junk, mp3s, old
> programs etc, and just four days ago, I saw that I had
7.8 GB free.
> What's getting weird is that now, however, I can no
longer get a lock on
> what memory I DO have left! Tonight, for example. I
did a search on how
> much memory I had left, and got 55.8 MB. Yes, you read
that right, MB. I
> then ran ScanDisk, and it told me later that I had 1.8
GB free. I shut my
> computer down, restarted it, and now it says I have 2.7
GB free. What the
> hell is happening? Is there still some phantom virus
crap from before
> that's making my computer's memory go haywire?
>
> The only reason I've caught on to this problem lately
was because I
started
> getting "No More Memory" errors, with comments like "You
only have 16 MB
> available! It is normal to have 200 MB of Windows
Memory . . ." etc. I
> would do what the programs said to free up space, but it
all keeps coming
> down to what is messing with the space . . . and how
much do I have.
> Did I lose you?
Today, in the morning, I had 10.6 GB free (after last
night's 2.7) but for most of the day today I've had 6.8 GB
free. I'm on a dialup, so there's no way in hell I
downloaded enough crap to fill 4 gigabytes.
I'm wondering if this might have something to do with
virtual memory? I'm not very knowledgable as to what
resources are used up by Win ME, or exactly what virtual
memory does . . . but when I went into my system specs, it
says I'm letting the computer manage my virtual memory,
and it's allowing up to my entire hard drive's amount of
space to be virtual memory.
Anyway, I'm stumped, and I'm moving next week to college,
so I need to figure this out beforehand if possible. If
anyone here can help, please drop me a line at
jonathansanders@justice.com. I'd greatly appreciate it.
Jonathan.
Mike M - 28 Jul 2003 11:50 GMT
The term memory is most commonly associated with RAM whereas disk space is
referred to as storage. Despite the subject of this thread your problem
appears not to be with memory but rather one of considerably varying free disk
space.
I have no idea what is happening here and you mention one possibility - your
virtual memory cache. This is quite easily checked since all you need do here
is check the size of the file win386.swp to find out how much disk space is
being used as virtual memory. I would advise that you continue to allow
windows to manage your virtual memory as I don't think this is the cause of
your problems.
Another possibility is the space being used for the system restore archive.
This is the _RESTORE folder on the partition containing your windows folder
and you can control the space allocated as follows:
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider
to your preferred setting. A figure of 200MB is normally more than adequate
for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to be available
although increasing this to perhaps 400MB for a few days during periods of
large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.
Another possibility, depending on how your PC is configured, is that your
machine goes into hibernation and creates a temporary file to save the
contents of RAM whilst hibernating.
Next time you see that your space has rapidly diminished try to determine
where it is being used. You can do this with Explorer. Look for large files
that have only recently been created or amended, and to do so it would
probably be best to allow the viewing of all files in Explorer by going into
Tools | Options | View and checking "Show hidden files and folders" and
UNcheck "Hide protected operating system files".
Please post back once you have established the files and/or folder that are
using your storage and if you need help in preventing this from happening.

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> Here's the text of an email I sent to a friend who is good
> with computer problems yesterday. He's stumped, and
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> Jonathan.
Jonathan Sanders - 29 Jul 2003 06:58 GMT
Thank you VERY much, Mike! I checked the _RESTORE folder,
after making it NOT invisible, and found that my computer
had created 42,140 .CPY files since THREE DAYS AGO,
totalling 6.04 gigabytes, which was essentially the
discrepency I was concerned about. I've deleted the files
that were in there, and then reset like you said, to allow
200 MB of restore files, rather than such an insane amount.
I also went ahead and ordered a new hard drive with an 80
gig capacity. I figure with some of the advanced software
I use, it might help save me future problems like this.
Anyway, thanks for your time!
Jonathan.
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>The term memory is most commonly associated with RAM whereas disk space is
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>.
Jonathan Sanders - 29 Jul 2003 07:41 GMT
Well, when I wrote the LAST response, my computer was in
the process of deleting those 42,000 + files in the
_RESTORE/TEMP folder, when I found out that, oops, I can't
delete the files, they're in USE! So I've got 42,000
files, totalling 75% of my unused space, and I'm not
allowed to delete them? What do I do?
Frustrated and Confused,
Jonathan.
>-----Original Message-----
>Thank you VERY much, Mike! I checked the _RESTORE folder,
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>.
Dave Bowman - 29 Jul 2003 11:11 GMT
> Well, when I wrote the LAST response, my computer was in
> the process of deleting those 42,000 + files in the
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>
> Jonathan.
First you have to disable system Restore:
1. Open System Properties, performance tab.
2. Click File system, then troubleshooting tab
3. at the bottom, check next to disable system restore.
4. Reboot, Then delete the files.
5. Immediately reboot again re-enable SR and set the sliders to a
reasonable value.
6. At this point, you should make a manual restore point, although you
should get one when you reboot anyway.
HTH
YAWN, where's the coffee mug...

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Mike