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Windows Forum / Windows Me / Hardware / October 2004Slow performence
I have P4 2.8GHz with 1GB RAM and 5GB of free space on my windows drive C. My WinME works very slow. For example, it takes about 10 minutes to delete a single file of 100MB! While on my WinXP that installed on the other drive it takes to delete the same file, less then a second. What can be a couse of this? Can it be the problem that WinME can't handle more then 512MB of RAM? Norton installed?  SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's >I have P4 2.8GHz with 1GB RAM and 5GB of free space on my windows drive C. > My WinME works very slow. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > What can be a couse of this? > Can it be the problem that WinME can't handle more then 512MB of RAM? I have only Norton Ghost 9 Installed. I use this OS mainlly for games and for restoring my main OS (winXP) when needed. My CD drive isn't working very well so I'm using 2nd OS insted of Norton Ghost 9 CD Wizard for the restore process. > Norton installed? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > What can be a couse of this? > > Can it be the problem that WinME can't handle more then 512MB of RAM? WRT your query about 512MB - ME requires a tweak in the System.ini file add the following line in the [vcache] section MaxFileCache=512000 There should NOT be anything else in that section, unless you have more than 1GB installed SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's >I have only Norton Ghost 9 Installed. > I use this OS mainlly for games and for restoring my main OS (winXP) when [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> > What can be a couse of this? >> > Can it be the problem that WinME can't handle more then 512MB of RAM? I added the line, rebooted but my windows is still working very slow. Can it be something else and not RAM? > WRT your query about 512MB - ME requires a tweak in the System.ini file > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >> > What can be a couse of this? > >> > Can it be the problem that WinME can't handle more then 512MB of RAM? Most likely cause is your AV - which is? Where are you deleting the file from? It's possible that you're forcing System Restore to create a backup of the file prior to deletion, which could take a few seconds Also possible is a slight misconfiguration of the networking settings SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's >I added the line, rebooted but my windows is still working very slow. > Can it be something else and not RAM? [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> > Can it be the problem that WinME can't handle more then 512MB of >> >> > RAM? I'm tring to delete a stored movie file from an instolled game "movie.dat" that takes about 150MB from local drive E while my WinME is located on drive C. my system restore is turned off and I don't have any Norton protection software installed on this windows. (I'm tring to delete this file while this game is NOT running). It takes about 10 minutes to delete this file (or any other with this size). I noticed that after the windows deleted this file, I lost space on my drive. I mean, I had to run scandisk to restore lost clusters. I repeated the delete and the problem repeated. what should I do? (beside reinstalling) > Most likely cause is your AV - which is? > Where are you deleting the file from? It's possible that you're forcing [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >> >> > Can it be the problem that WinME can't handle more then 512MB of > >> >> > RAM? Are you sure that System Restore is properly disabled? change your folder options so that you can see Hidden and System files/folders, and look at the properties of the C:\_Restore folder - how big is it? Is the E: partition on the same physical drive as the C: partition? What does SCANDISK report about the drive (either E: or C:)? if there are *any* bad sectors, then it's time to replace it! and what is your AV? SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > I'm tring to delete a stored movie file from an instolled game "movie.dat" > that takes about 150MB from local drive E while my WinME is located on [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >> >> >> > Can it be the problem that WinME can't handle more then 512MB of >> >> >> > RAM? Files with a DAT extension *should* be ignored by the state manager but I agree this does sound very much as if the state manager is at work and archiving a copy of the deleted file to the system restore archive on C:. SignatureMike Maltby MS-MVP [2001-2005] mcmaltby@hotmail.com > Are you sure that System Restore is properly disabled? > change your folder options so that you can see Hidden and System [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > and what is your AV? g' morning, Mike! SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Files with a DAT extension *should* be ignored by the state manager but I > agree this does sound very much as if the state manager is at work and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> and what is your AV? I'm sure the System Restore is disabled and the size of the folder \_Restore on every drive C to F is 1KB and there are only one file in each of this folders. I scanned all my drives (C to F) and there are no bad sectors and it's all located on a single Hard Drive. I don't have any Antivirus Software installed on this OS. But I have one on WinXP and I scanned my PC with the latest definition and nothing was found. > Are you sure that System Restore is properly disabled? > change your folder options so that you can see Hidden and System [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > >> >> >> > Can it be the problem that WinME can't handle more then 512MB of > >> >> >> > RAM? C:\_Restore is only 1KB? How have you disabled System Restore? - by unchecking the *Statemgr entry in MSCONFIG? - You do realise that this means that the System File Protection is also disabled? All bets are therefore off, as to what the state of your system files is! it may be worth installing and running Belarc Advisor (www.belarc.com) to see what the status of your Installed Hotfixes is. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > I'm sure the System Restore is disabled and the size of the folder > \_Restore [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] >> >> >> >> > of >> >> >> >> > RAM? Noel, I suspect that Alex may not have enabled explorer to see hidden system files and folders despite your earlier post suggesting that he should do so. Alex: When using Explorer, go to Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and UNcheck "Hide protected operating system files". SignatureMike Maltby MS-MVP [2001-2005] mcmaltby@hotmail.com > C:\_Restore is only 1KB? > How have you disabled System Restore? - by unchecking the *Statemgr [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > it may be worth installing and running Belarc Advisor > (www.belarc.com) to see what the status of your Installed Hotfixes is. I did wonder about that - but he said that the .id file was present, which indicated to me that the rest should have been visible? SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Noel, > I suspect that Alex may not have enabled explorer to see hidden system [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> it may be worth installing and running Belarc Advisor >> (www.belarc.com) to see what the status of your Installed Hotfixes is. I can see hidden files, but what it has to do with the slow performance? > Noel, > I suspect that Alex may not have enabled explorer to see hidden system [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > it may be worth installing and running Belarc Advisor > > (www.belarc.com) to see what the status of your Installed Hotfixes is. Nothing but system restore does and Noel asked you to check the _RESTORE folder. If you are seeing just the one file in C:\_RESTORE then you do *not* have "Hide protected operating system files" UNchecked. SignatureMike Maltby MS-MVP [2001-2005] mcmaltby@hotmail.com > I can see hidden files, but what it has to do with the slow > performance? I had run the Belarc Advisor and the status of my hotyfixes it this: DataAccess: Q318202, Q832483, KB870669 DirectX DX9 SP1: KB839643-DIRECTX9 MSXML4: Q317244 Windows Media Player: Q828026, KB832353, KB837272 Windows Media Player SP0: Q828026, KB832353 All the hotfixes are marked with green "v" sigh - exept DataAccess that is not marked. And I don't have any red "x" marks. > C:\_Restore is only 1KB? > How have you disabled System Restore? - by unchecking the *Statemgr entry in [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > >> >> >> >> > of > >> >> >> >> > RAM? If those are the only Hotfixes you have installed, then you have some work to do!!! Have you EVER been to Windows Updates? SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's >I had run the Belarc Advisor and the status of my hotyfixes it this: > [quoted text clipped - 132 lines] >> >> >> >> >> > of >> >> >> >> >> > RAM? At the beginning when I instlled winme, I installed all the updates from the site. But in the last couple of years I when I enter the windows update site from my WinMe I'm getting a message that this site is not supporting winMe. I'm using WinMe Hebrew enabled version. > If those are the only Hotfixes you have installed, then you have some work > to do!!! [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] > >> >> >> >> >> > of > >> >> >> >> >> > RAM? There should be no reason that version is not getting the updates - what's the EXACT wording of the message? You may have a virus/spyware hijack download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that A-V-disabling viruses are not present on your PC http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/stinger.exe - update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files. Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the CoolWebSearch hijacker. http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html Use CWShredder, the removal tool: http://www.merijn.org/files/cwshredder.zip http://www.merijn.org/files/CWShredder.exe http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads/tools/CWShredder.exe http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip download AdAware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > At the beginning when I instlled winme, I installed all the updates from > the [quoted text clipped - 156 lines] >> >> >> >> >> >> > of >> >> >> >> >> >> > RAM? There are no viruses on this PC because I scanned from my main OS with Norton Antivirus 2005. Thank you for the assistance but I'll just reinstall the windows (it would be easier), it had crused and I can not log now into the windows or into the safe mode. Last good known configuration didn't help either. Thanks again. > There should be no reason that version is not getting the updates - what's > the EXACT wording of the message? [quoted text clipped - 181 lines] > >> >> >> >> >> >> > of > >> >> >> >> >> >> > RAM? There is no such thing as last known configuration in ME! Norton is NOT as good as it likes to think it is - and is perfectly useless against modern commercial malware. If you really want to reinstall ME over itself (which I suspect will NOT solve your problem), then look here for instructions first! http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > There are no viruses on this PC because I scanned from my main OS with > Norton [quoted text clipped - 214 lines] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > RAM? I hava a last good configuration mode maybe because I have a winXP insalled as well, and I will probably will delete the folders: "_Restore", "Program Files" and "Windows" before I install the windows again. Thanks for the help. > There is no such thing as last known configuration in ME! > [quoted text clipped - 223 lines] > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > RAM? Last good configuration is applicable ONLY to XP - and has nothing whatsoever to do with ME. I can only surmise that somehow you've managed to confuse the two OS's - in more ways than one. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's >I hava a last good configuration mode maybe because I have a winXP insalled > as well, and I will probably will delete the folders: "_Restore", "Program [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> > >> > Thanks again. |
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