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Windows Forum / Windows Me / Hardware / December 2004Hard Drive Size Limitation
Hi, I am wondering if I upgrade my IDE drive to a size of 160GB or 200GB, will Windows ME have any limitation in accessing the space? I vaguely recall an issue with ME or perhaps WIN 98 not being able to manage the larger driver sizes. Thanks! The first issue is will your motherboard's BIOS support drives larger than 137Gb? That was the limit until recently. If your BIOS will see it then for ME to see it you will have to run FDISK and break it into pieces - the 137Gb still will be a limiting factor if you want to see it as one piece. I rememebr seeing drivers posted, don't remember where, that will allow 98, SE, and ME to see drives larger than 137Gb. I can only recommend a Google search to see if they are stilla round somewhere. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks! > The first issue is will your motherboard's BIOS support drives > larger than [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > Thanks! I have written a Patch for Windows 98, 98SE and ME that supports Hard Drives larger than 137GB. You will need BIOS support for large Hard Drives or a Boot Manager that provides support. Individual partitions must be smaller than 127GB as some of the Windows tools cannot handle larger partitions. A demo of my Patch is on my website http://members.aol.com/rloew1 or can be download from Simtel. It is called the "High Capacity Disk Patch"  Signaturehttp://www.WindowsForumz.com/ This article was posted by author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.WindowsForumz.com/Hardware-Hard-Drive-Size-Limitation-ftopict211864.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.WindowsForumz.com/eform.php?p=729811 Shame that it won't run under ME - you might want to read up on the differences between ME and Win98 before posting such supposed 'fixes' to the unsuspecting public!! Besides which , there are 'official' patches which do the same thing. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > > The first issue is will your motherboard's BIOS support drives > > larger than [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > can be download from Simtel. It is called the "High Capacity Disk > Patch" > Shame that it won't run under ME - you might want to read up > on the [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > abuse: > > http://www.WindowsForumz.com/eform.php?p=729811 Dear Noel, Apparently you haven?t run my Demo Version of the "High Capacity Disk Patch". It works fine with Windows ME. I wouldn?t have listed Windows ME or posted to this Topic if it didn?t. Some of the support features don?t work under Windows ME but they are not required. No one who has purchased the Full Version of my Patch for Windows ME has complained. If anyone has any doubts, they can download the Demo Patch which supports up to 145GB from http://members.aol.com/rloew1 or Simtel. The only "official" patches are called "Windows 2000 and Windows XP". The Intel Application Accelerator is limited to certain Intel Chipsets. If you know of any Patches, post them. Rudolph Loew Signaturehttp://www.WindowsForumz.com/ This article was posted by author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.WindowsForumz.com/Hardware-Hard-Drive-Size-Limitation-ftopict211864.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.WindowsForumz.com/eform.php?p=731110 Might I suggest that you prove your assertions first? No - I haven't run your 'ix' - for the simple reason I don't have a very large drive available Also - most ME machines are limited not by the OS, but by the BIOS - which you seem to neglect to mention What good is increasing the available disk from ~130GB to ~ 145GB going to do in today's world of 250GB++ drives? Why would one want to have a drive that large in the first place, in a Win9x system that can't cope with files greater than 4GB in size (on a good day!)?? Your 'proven' do-hickey is snake-oil. (I'd be very pleased for you to prove me wrong!!) SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Dear Noel, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Rudolph Loew > Might I suggest that you prove your assertions first? > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > abuse: > > http://www.WindowsForumz.com/eform.php?p=731110 Dear Noel, I?m not sure how you expect me to prove that my patch works. I?m not going to publish my source code. The Demo IS the proof. You haven?t posted anything that would indicate that the Patch wouldn?t work. Borrow a large hard drive if you have to, and test the Demo, before you make any more unwarranted accusations. Many ME users have BIOSes that are not limited. You might want to refer to my original post. I did state that BIOS support is required. It is also in the README.TXT file in my Demo. Have you read it? I have written a Boot Manager that provides the necessary support on machines that do not have BIOS support. The 145GB limit is only in the Demo version so people can verify that the Patch works in their system before buying the full version. The full version can support over 2000GB. I have several 250GB Hard Drives that work just fine in Windows 98. Apparently many people are interested in using large hard drives with Windows 98 and ME. The Simtel mirror of my Demo has been downloaded hundreds of times. I don?t think many people have a need for single files larger than 4GB. DVD files can take up a lot of space but no single file exceeds 1GB. You sound like a Microsoftie that wants to discredit anything that will allow people to stay with their existing Windows instead of being forced to upgrade to Windows XP. Microsoft could have easily done this Patch themselves but chose deliberately not to. Rudolph R. Loew rloew AT @ AT hotmail.com http://members.aol.com/rloew1 > > Might I suggest that you prove your assertions first? > > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > http://members.aol.com/rloew1 Personally, I never try to ascribe reasons to what decisions MS makes - it give me too many headaches! If you're getting DVD's only smaller than 1GB, then you are in trouble - a full-length movie will be well over 4GB at full resolution. As I said, I don't have access to large drives - and no need of them (yet) - and I prefer, currently, to use a couple of smaller drives(40GB and 80GB) as this box gets hammered, and it makes life a little easier if things go wrong (and I'm not convinced of the stability/ruggedness of the first-generation large drives yet). - Quite apart from which, I have no machine available with BIOS-limited disks. I would NEVER use as a System drive, a single-partition disk of more than 20GB - the risks are too high.For backups, etc, I can see uses for large partitions, but for anything else, small partitions are much friendlier. You may want to look at the phrasing on your download site, as what you are saying above is not obvious there - and no, I didn't read the readme.txt file (Why should I, unless I've already decided to install the thing?) You need to make plain on the site what the full version can do, and what the limitations of the Demo version are - and whether the demo version can be upgraded *in situ* with the full version. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > > > Might I suggest that you prove your assertions > first? [quoted text clipped - 130 lines] > version can be > upgraded *in situ* with the full version. DVDs consist of .VOB files that normally do not exceed 1.073GB. A full length movie would consist of at least 4 of these. DVD software usually allows you to set the maximum size of each file. There is usually little need to create an image file of a DVD. You may not be interested in using large hard drives, but many other people are including the person who started this topic. That is why I posted my first message. I never specified how people should partition their hard drives. In fact I specifically tell them not to create individual partitions larger than 127GB. As far as my web site is concerned, you must have not bothered to click on the link to the Patch program. The limitations of the Demo Program are listed there. A long discussion of installation details is not appropriate for the web page. Anyone even remotely interested can download the free Demo and read the README.TXT file. If you are not interested in installing the Patch, don?t go to the website, don?t read the README.TXT file, it would be a waste of your time. But it makes you totally unqualified to criticize a program, that other people are interested in, that you can?t be bothered to investigate or test. Rudolph R. Loew > DVDs consist of .VOB files that normally do not exceed 1.073GB. A full > length movie would consist of at least 4 of these. DVD software [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Rudolph R. Loew Granted - it' possible to manipulate DVD file-size (but only for the experienced user). The point that I was trying to make about your site, is simply that, if you really want people to download it, you should explain EXACTLY what it does, rather than some wishy-washy guff that only describes the (demo-only) limits. People looking for such a patch are going to see that page - and then look elsewhere for a better option, without downloading the demo. Yes - I did follow the patch link - that's the one I am commenting on! SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > > DVDs consist of .VOB files that normally do not exceed > 1.073GB. A full [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > Yes - I did follow the patch link - that's the one I am > commenting on! Since Windows 98, 98SE and ME do not support individual files larger than 4GB, and commercial DVDs limit their files to 10.73GB, I am sure that DVD authoring programs would make it easy for even novice users to limit the size of files and/or set an appropriate limit by default. I wish you would read more than one paragraph at a time when looking at my web site. The description of what it does is in the first paragraph. The description of the Demo limitations is only one paragraph. A detailed description of Port Drivers and the ATA-7 standard is unneccessary and is likely to confuse and discourage people who mainly want to know if my Patch will work in their systems. Since the Demo Package is small and FREE, anyone who is interested in more detailed information can download the Package and read the Manual. Since most people will have come across the "official" approaches namely Windows 2000/XP, PCI Cards and the Intel Application Accelerator, before finding my Patch program, I think they will find that there are no other options for most systems. Rudolph Loew http://members.aol.com/rloew1 |
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