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Urgent! Need help.....   Can't enter bios!!

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Just Me - 22 Oct 2004 17:09 GMT
I am working with a Gateway Essentials 433C, 64mb ram, 80G hard drive,
WinME, 433mhz PC. I reformatted the drive, loaded Win Me. Everything was
working fine. Noticed the date was bad, couldn't change it, so I changed the
PC battery. (Tested and shows fine.) At the same time, I changed the CD Rom
drive out for a CD-RW. Now I can't bootup, enter bios or anything! Shows a
Drive A and Drive B error. What is going on?

I have since taken all CD Rom's out. But the same problem exists.

What makes me unable to enter the Bios? When I press the F1 key, it shows
"entering setup", but then comes up with the two drive errors.

Appreciate any help.....

Thanks in advance,
Just Me
Ron Martell - 22 Oct 2004 19:44 GMT
>I am working with a Gateway Essentials 433C, 64mb ram, 80G hard drive,
>WinME, 433mhz PC. I reformatted the drive, loaded Win Me. Everything was
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Thanks in advance,
>Just Me

A error involving drives A: and B: indicates that the problem is with
the diskette drive configuration or cables.   Check the diskette drive
cable at both ends, It may have become dislodged or partially
dislodged while you were changing around the CDROM drives.

If the problem persists unplug the diskette drive data cable from the
motherboard and see if that allows you to boot or to get into the
setup.

Good luck

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Just Me - 22 Oct 2004 22:02 GMT
>> I am working with a Gateway Essentials 433C, 64mb ram, 80G hard
>> drive, WinME, 433mhz PC. I reformatted the drive, loaded Win Me.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Ron Martell     Duncan B.C.    Canada

I checked the connections- all are tight but same error. Unplugged the
floppy drive but it
still acts the same way. It's as though it thinks the HD is the floppy
drive. If I press F1 to bypass the error, it wants me to insert the boot
disk into the "floppy drive". Is the HD dead?

Thanks for your suggestions. Now what??
Just Me
Crazy Aizy - 23 Oct 2004 09:38 GMT
> >> I am working with a Gateway Essentials 433C, 64mb ram, 80G hard
> >> drive, WinME, 433mhz PC. I reformatted the drive, loaded Win Me.
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Thanks for your suggestions. Now what??
> Just Me

You could try resetting the BIOS. There should be a jumper somewhere on the
motherboard for that purpose or remove the battery for at least 15 minutes.

Steve
Just Me - 23 Oct 2004 17:07 GMT
>>>> I am working with a Gateway Essentials 433C, 64mb ram, 80G hard
>>>> drive, WinME, 433mhz PC. I reformatted the drive, loaded Win Me.
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> Steve

I took the battery out for 30 minutes but it didn't fix anything. Help??

Thanks, Steve
Just Me
B.J.Honeycut - 23 Oct 2004 20:00 GMT
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:07:43 GMT,"Just Me" <f_y_i_2@nospam.hotmail.com>
penned this whopper in microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware

>>>>> I am working with a Gateway Essentials 433C, 64mb ram, 80G hard
>>>>> drive, WinME, 433mhz PC. I reformatted the drive, loaded Win Me.
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> Thanks, Steve
> Just Me

1. Make sure the floppy cable is unplugged at the mainboard.
2. If no luck, suspect memory problems or a bad board. Are you getting the
normal one beep at boot time or none or more than one?

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Just Me - 23 Oct 2004 20:10 GMT
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:07:43 GMT,"Just Me"
> <f_y_i_2@nospam.hotmail.com> penned this whopper in
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> 2. If no luck, suspect memory problems or a bad board. Are you
> getting the normal one beep at boot time or none or more than one?

I'm getting 2 beeps, pause, 1 beep just before the floppy drive error. Since
I can't get into the bios, I am suspecting the bios needs to be replaced??

Thanks again,
Just Me
Noel Paton - 23 Oct 2004 20:18 GMT
that beep pattern sounds like a Video problem - check that your video card
is properly seated.
(what is the make/model of your motherboard?)
If that doesn't fix it, then you really need to try swapping out the card,
or taking the box to a shop for diagnosis.

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>> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:07:43 GMT,"Just Me"
>> <f_y_i_2@nospam.hotmail.com> penned this whopper in
[quoted text clipped - 64 lines]
> Thanks again,
> Just Me
Just Me - 24 Oct 2004 16:18 GMT
> that beep pattern sounds like a Video problem - check that your video
> card is properly seated.
[quoted text clipped - 69 lines]
>> Thanks again,
>> Just Me

Reconnected the video cable, checked pins, etc. All seems okay.

I feel so helpless because nothing makes any sense. I've never run into this
problem before....

Thanks and I welcome any other suggestions....
Just Me
Noel Paton - 25 Oct 2004 20:00 GMT
I've had a very similar problem on a PC beside me here - and nothing I can
do will solve it except replacing the motherboard.

If you can give a better description of your beep sequence, and the
motherboard manufacturer, then we may find out a little more.

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>> that beep pattern sounds like a Video problem - check that your video
>> card is properly seated.
[quoted text clipped - 78 lines]
> Thanks and I welcome any other suggestions....
> Just Me
Just Me - 25 Oct 2004 22:45 GMT
Thanks, that's just what I have started thinking about this one. Appreciate
everyone's help. Thanks so much! Appreciate it....

Sincerely,
Just Me

> I've had a very similar problem on a PC beside me here - and nothing
> I can do will solve it except replacing the motherboard.
[quoted text clipped - 83 lines]
>> Thanks and I welcome any other suggestions....
>> Just Me
B.J.Honeycut - 28 Oct 2004 00:47 GMT
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:45:34 GMT,"Just Me" <f_y_i_2@nospam.hotmail.com>
penned this whopper in microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware

> Thanks, that's just what I have started thinking about this one.
> Appreciate everyone's help. Thanks so much! Appreciate it....
[quoted text clipped - 91 lines]
>>> Thanks and I welcome any other suggestions....
>>> Just Me

The first screen you see during POST should tell you the manufacturer and
version of the BIOS, from that the beep code can hopefully be determined.

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Just Me - 29 Oct 2004 17:33 GMT
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:45:34 GMT,"Just Me"
> <f_y_i_2@nospam.hotmail.com> penned this whopper in
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> and version of the BIOS, from that the beep code can hopefully be
> determined.

Just so you know, I took the PC in to have a professional give me a diagnose
and they were stumped, too! Needless to say, we salvaged what we could and
the rest is junk!!

Thanks so much for everyone's help,
Just Me
Noel Paton - 29 Oct 2004 20:17 GMT
Thanks for the feedback - nice to know that I wasn't too far off the mark!

Good luck with your new hardware!

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> Just so you know, I took the PC in to have a professional give me a
> diagnose and they were stumped, too! Needless to say, we salvaged what we
> could and the rest is junk!!
>
> Thanks so much for everyone's help,
> Just Me
B.J.Honeycut - 29 Oct 2004 22:48 GMT
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:17:13 GMT,"Noel Paton"
<NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> penned this whopper in
microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware

> Thanks for the feedback - nice to know that I wasn't too far off the
> mark!
>
> Good luck with your new hardware!

Ditto. :)

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