how to kill dial-up networking ???

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Ogg - 07 Jan 2005 22:28 GMT

Hello, All!

It DOESN'T happen often (only usually when the pc has been left unattended
for a while) but sometimes the dialup-line will drop carrier, the dialup-up
status icon will remain present in status bar - but it is impossible to
force a re-dial. The dialup-up status will simply report "Connected..". Is
there a specific process that can be killed manually when this happens? My
system particulars are: WinME, using ICS hosting a networked XP that
accesses the modem residing on the ME pc, external USR modem.

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N. Miller - 08 Jan 2005 05:06 GMT

> It DOESN'T happen often (only usually when the pc has been left unattended
> for a while) but sometimes the dialup-line will drop carrier, the dialup-up
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> system particulars are: WinME, using ICS hosting a networked XP that
> accesses the modem residing on the ME pc, external USR modem.

Using an external modem? Have you tried power cycling the modem? I should
think that the dial-up process would notice when the DTR signal dropped.
Also, I just used the DUN on my Windows Me system; when the DUN is active,
there is a process named "Dial-Up Networking" in the "Close Program" box;
try shutting that down?

Just a suggestion, but did you know that you can share a dial-up connection
through a router? Check out SMC, D-Link, or Netgear; all have routers which
will connect to an external modem. The router becomes the gateway device.

> SMC: http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewSubCategory&localeCode=EN_USA&cid=1&scid=17

Check out the Barricade 7004ABR; if you need more ports, look at the
Barricade 7008ABR.

> D-Link: http://www.d-link.com/products/?sec=0&pid=64#

Check out the DI-707.

> Netgear: http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FR328S.php

If that link doesn't take you to the product, the model you want to check
out is the FR328S.

Just one observation, though; although the router will replace the WinMe
computer as the gateway, and you will only need just the router and any one
computer on for an Internet session, most ISPs will not tolerate a 24/7
dial-up connection. You may even be unceremoniously dumped if you try it.

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Ogg - 08 Jan 2005 05:52 GMT

Hello, N.!
You wrote on Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:06:37 -0800:

NM> Using an external modem? Have you tried power cycling the modem? I
NM> should think that the dial-up process would notice when the DTR signal
NM> dropped. Also, I just used the DUN on my Windows Me system; when the
NM> DUN is active, there is a process named "Dial-Up Networking" in the
NM> "Close Program" box; try shutting that down?

NM> Just a suggestion, but did you know that you can share a dial-up
NM> connection through a router? Check out SMC, D-Link, or Netgear; all
NM> have routers which will connect to an external modem. The router
NM> becomes the gateway device.

I failed to power-cycle the modem! Duhhh... well.. the modem is sort of
out of reach. But what did work was power-cycling the computer <g> via
Restart. ;) I will try the modem on/off cycle next time. BUT.. I'm
pretty sure that this problem was happening with my internal modem too. It
seems to happen when the computer is "idle" for awhile (usually when I'm
away for a couple of hours at a time and the remote XP might need the
connection every few minutes or not.) Hmmm... I wonder if the ISP is
interrupting the connection due to long-time idleness and somehow affecting
the stability of the modem?

BTW.. DUN does not show up in my "Close Program".

I appreciate the info about the dialup-supported routers! I'll take a look.
I was considering such a thing about a year ago. But the added cost of a
router seemed impractical. I was well under $50 with just a peer2peer wired
setup. But now, I wouldn't mind if the remote XP had its own access to a
shared modem and didn't rely on the ICS host pc to be on. Meanwhile, I use
the handy Remote Disconnection Server which helps control the dialup status
from the remote XP when it needs to wake up the modem connected to the ME
pc.

NM> Just one observation, though; although the router will replace the
NM> WinMe computer as the gateway, and you will only need just the router
NM> and any one computer on for an Internet session, most ISPs will not
NM> tolerate a 24/7 dial-up connection. You may even be unceremoniously
NM> dumped if you try it.

I know that the router would free up the ICS function on the ME pc and then
allow either computer to be on for internet access. I am also aware of the
24/7 issue. Personally, I don't mind if the connection drops after several
minutes of inactivity.

Thanks for your info!

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N. Miller - 09 Jan 2005 09:31 GMT

> Hello, N.!
> You wrote on Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:06:37 -0800:

> NM> Using an external modem? Have you tried power cycling the modem? I
> NM> should think that the dial-up process would notice when the DTR signal
> NM> dropped. Also, I just used the DUN on my Windows Me system; when the
> NM> DUN is active, there is a process named "Dial-Up Networking" in the
> NM> "Close Program" box; try shutting that down?

> NM> Just a suggestion, but did you know that you can share a dial-up
> NM> connection through a router? Check out SMC, D-Link, or Netgear; all
> NM> have routers which will connect to an external modem. The router
> NM> becomes the gateway device.

> I failed to power-cycle the modem! Duhhh... well.. the modem is sort of
> out of reach. But what did work was power-cycling the computer <g> via
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> interrupting the connection due to long-time idleness and somehow affecting
> the stability of the modem?

You can't power cycle an internal modem, except by power cycling the entire
computer.

> BTW.. DUN does not show up in my "Close Program".

Hmmm. I was sure that I saw it...wait! Maybe it only exists for connections
made with internal Winmodems? Like the one I used?

> NM> Just one observation, though; although the router will replace the
> NM> WinMe computer as the gateway, and you will only need just the router
> NM> and any one computer on for an Internet session, most ISPs will not
> NM> tolerate a 24/7 dial-up connection. You may even be unceremoniously
> NM> dumped if you try it.

> I know that the router would free up the ICS function on the ME pc and then
> allow either computer to be on for internet access. I am also aware of the
> 24/7 issue. Personally, I don't mind if the connection drops after several
> minutes of inactivity.

> Thanks for your info!

Well, sometimes (if rarely) I do have a flash of brilliance...more often I
am likely to jam both feet firmly into my mouth. :(

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