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jbly - 06 Dec 2005 16:45 GMT
I can connect using my modem, but I'm getting nothing in IE, nor Outlook.
After talking with my ISP tech support, we found that the Dial Up Networking
is 0.00 MB in the Windows Setup in Add/Remove Programs. I unchecked the box
to uninstall, rebooted, reinstalled (re-checked), rebooted and it is still
not working. The tech support has seen this happen on ME machines before for
no apparent reason. She said the unchecking and rechecking of the install
does not usually work. She suggested taking it to a shop to get fixed.

Has anyone seen this happen? How can I fix? Why did it lose the dial up
networking?

Thanks in advance
Jason
Mike M - 06 Dec 2005 17:41 GMT
Jason,

Dial-Up Networking is quite correct when reporting as 0.0MB in Windows
Setup | Communications as no additional files are installed simply various
registry entries updated.  Your problem probably has little or nothing to
do with DUN or your net connection but instead appears to be a problem
with your installation of Internet Explorer.  Have you tried using system
restore to roll your system back to a checkpoint created before your
problems began?  In addition what changes were made to your system around
the time this problem started?
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> I can connect using my modem, but I'm getting nothing in IE, nor
> Outlook. After talking with my ISP tech support, we found that the
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> Thanks in advance
> Jason
jbly - 06 Dec 2005 18:12 GMT
I have not tried system restore. I'm sure I can figure it out, but how do I
go about that?

I did just install Norton Internet Security and did a LiveUpdate. I don't
recall exactly, but I think that was when the problem began. I did try to
disable it, but it still was not finding the server. Even if the security
settings are blocking me, it shouldn't be blocking itself to LiveUpdate
again, which is now not working either. I guess I could try to uninstall
that, but I was trying to avoid that because the LiveUpdate takes me forever
to download the 21 MB. Tech Support ran through all the DNS numbers and what
not. Everything appears fine for the ISP settings. Thanks

Jason

> Jason,
>
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> > Thanks in advance
> > Jason
Mike M - 06 Dec 2005 18:25 GMT
Don't bother with System Restore it is almost a dead certainty that your
problems are due to installing NIS.  Have you configured NIS correctly so
as to allow IE to access the internet?  Also, regrettably, Norton's flawed
software will probably have broken system restore.

May I be allowed to repeat that your problem is most unlikely to have
anything to do with Dial-Up Networking or your ISP and is local to your
PC.
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> I have not tried system restore. I'm sure I can figure it out, but
> how do I go about that?
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> ran through all the DNS numbers and what not. Everything appears fine
> for the ISP settings. Thanks
jbly - 06 Dec 2005 18:40 GMT
I will uninstall it tonight just to see what happens. I thought I disabled
it, maybe I didn't do it entirely. I don't know off the top of my head where
to configure it, but I'll play around to see if I can find it, otherwise,
I'll just uninstall to prove if that's the problem.

Thanks for your help. I'll post back tomorrow with results.
Jason

> Don't bother with System Restore it is almost a dead certainty that your
> problems are due to installing NIS.  Have you configured NIS correctly so
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> > ran through all the DNS numbers and what not. Everything appears fine
> > for the ISP settings. Thanks
Mike M - 06 Dec 2005 18:51 GMT
Jason,

If uninstalling NIS doesn't fix the problem try downloading and run
LSPFix.exe as this should repair any possibly damaged entries in winsock.
LSPfix can be downloaded from http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm.

Best of luck,
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> I will uninstall it tonight just to see what happens. I thought I
> disabled it, maybe I didn't do it entirely. I don't know off the top
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>
> Thanks for your help. I'll post back tomorrow with results.
jbly - 06 Dec 2005 20:03 GMT
Someone told me that if it doesn't work, then I would have to reload the OS.
Is that true?

> Jason,
>
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> >
> > Thanks for your help. I'll post back tomorrow with results.
Mike M - 06 Dec 2005 20:13 GMT
No.. Did you read my last post?
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> Someone told me that if it doesn't work, then I would have to reload
> the OS. Is that true?
jbly - 06 Dec 2005 21:09 GMT
Yes, I read the last post. I think he was talking about the Winsock repair
not fixing the problem, then I'd have to reinstall OS. I'm not sure. I was
just repeating what he said. I'll try it and see.

Jason

> No.. Did you read my last post?
>
> > Someone told me that if it doesn't work, then I would have to reload
> > the OS. Is that true?
jbly - 06 Dec 2005 21:16 GMT
I misunderstood him. He read that if the Winsock fix does not work, then I
would probably have to reinstall OS. Sorry.

> No.. Did you read my last post?
>
> > Someone told me that if it doesn't work, then I would have to reload
> > the OS. Is that true?
Mike M - 06 Dec 2005 21:31 GMT
OK, understood, but you shouldn't have to reinstall the OS for a problem
such as this.  LSPFix fixes most if not all connectivity problems
especially those resulting from the removal of some unwanted
malware/spyware and also an improperly uninstalled Firewall or AV
application (improper not being your fault but due to a faulty
uninstaller).  LSPFix removes all additional Layered Service Providers
(LSPs) that have been added to those that are part of the basic system
which should restore connectivity but could mean you have to reinstall
your AV application.

Best of luck and I hope all goes well,
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> I misunderstood him. He read that if the Winsock fix does not work,
> then I would probably have to reinstall OS. Sorry.
jbly - 07 Dec 2005 13:33 GMT
I did not use the LSPFix. I got everything working after trying several
things including, uninstalling Norton Internet Security, running Defrag,
Scandisk, then doing a System Restore which was the final step that got
things working.

Thanks for all your help. I'll hold on to the LSPFix program just in case.
Jason

> OK, understood, but you shouldn't have to reinstall the OS for a problem
> such as this.  LSPFix fixes most if not all connectivity problems
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> > I misunderstood him. He read that if the Winsock fix does not work,
> > then I would probably have to reinstall OS. Sorry.
Mike M - 07 Dec 2005 16:36 GMT
> I did not use the LSPFix. I got everything working after trying
> several things including, uninstalling Norton Internet Security,
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> Thanks for all your help. I'll hold on to the LSPFix program just in
> case.

Jason,

Thanks for the feedback and I'm pleased to read you've got your system
back talking to the net.  I would still suggest you install a firewall,
possibly even NIS, but only once you have worked out how to configure it
to allow both outgoing (and where necessary) incoming connections.

I would certainly strongly advise you to keep ISPFix as this applet is
extremely useful in rebuilding winsock which can so easily be damaged when
removing certain malware.

Best of luck,
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