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Internet connection - can't find DNS any more
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GeeBee - 12 Dec 2005 08:33 GMT I'm cleaning up a friend's Toshiba laptop which had been infested by spyware, adware, keyloggers and trojans. After it was cleaned, I created a Dial Up connection with the 56K internal modem, and connected to my ISP OK, with full Internet and POP e-mail access. The machine seemed clean and useable with correct acces to the Inernet.
However the machine has not been kept up to date with Windows updates, and the 56K modem would never have been a viable option to process all outstanding Windows updates.
I installed a USB Wifi connection so I could connect the laptop to my broadband connection through my network router, and downloaded and installed about 60 MB of Windows updates.
When I then tried connecting the machine through the Dial Up internal 56K modem (to be sure all was still working OK) it connects to the ISP but it can no longer find any sites. I have not made any changes to the DUN or TCP settings - so I can't see why it won't find any site names - it was working OK before the update.
The ISP provides a valid IP address - Winipcfg looks normal, and the DNS names displayed are as expected.
Unfortunately, the machine is installed with the Swedish language (which I can barely understand), and I am concerned I may have done something stupid during the update, because of the language difficulty.
I think TCP is OK as it connects to my network using the USB Wifi. However, I can't ping my ISP's DNS server.
Does anyone have any idea what may be the problem and what I need to do to fix it?
thanks GB
Noel Paton - 12 Dec 2005 10:35 GMT Run the LSPFix from here http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm
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> I'm cleaning up a friend's Toshiba laptop which had been infested by > spyware, [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > thanks > GB GeeBee - 13 Dec 2005 08:04 GMT Noel, thanks for the link.
I tried that last night, plusa similar one from Adware. No joy with either. Problem remains.
I tried reconnecting through the Wifi and that still works. I presume the DNS is being picked up through the router and its DNS linkage, but the recognition of DNS through the standard Dial Up modem still doesn't work.
I can ping localhost and 127.0.0.1 OK.
I tried pinging one of the redirected sites located in the HOSTS files, and that returned 127.0.0.1 OK. So, it seems that TCP/IP is OK? I'd hate to have to reinstall TCP (because of the Swedish language problem - I can't see what I am doing!).
There is a Winsock.dll, dated about 2001.
I'm completely stumped - desperate for suggestions.
Cheers, GB
> Run the LSPFix from here > http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > thanks > > GB Noel Paton - 13 Dec 2005 08:18 GMT Check to see whether there's a proxy server in use - it may not be required.
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> Noel, thanks for the link. > [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] >> > thanks >> > GB GeeBee - 13 Dec 2005 11:44 GMT OK, I'll check that out tonight. There probably is a proxy server set, as I usually use the ISP's proxy.
I can't see, though, if that is the problem, why it worked before I installed the Windows updates and then failed to work afterwards.
GB
> Check to see whether there's a proxy server in use - it may not be required. > [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > >> > thanks > >> > GB Noel Paton - 13 Dec 2005 11:49 GMT Updates can sometimes have the effect of toggling such options (another favourite one is the Default Email program - Outlook has this strange Idea that if it's installed, it has the right to be the default!<g>)
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> OK, I'll check that out tonight. There probably is a proxy server set, as > I [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] >> >> > thanks >> >> > GB GeeBee - 13 Dec 2005 17:45 GMT Noel - checked the proxy settings - all browsers (IExploer, Firefox, Netscape) are set to direct connection to Internet. Checked the settings from Internet Options in Control Panel - also no proxy set.
Disabled Norton and switched off the firewall, as a check. Still no joy :-(
What else?
BTW thanks for your help in this,
GB
> Updates can sometimes have the effect of toggling such options > (another favourite one is the Default Email program - Outlook has this [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > >> >> > thanks > >> >> > GB oops!! - 13 Dec 2005 18:06 GMT Try also this Winsock fix:
http://downloads.subratam.org/WinsockFix.zip
Download, unzip, scan and reboot when finished.
See if that helps.
If not, you may need a reinstall of TCP/IP:
http://kb.earthlink.net/case.asp?article=16361
Good luck,
Zee
> Noel - checked the proxy settings - all browsers (IExploer, Firefox, > Netscape) are set to direct connection to Internet. Checked the settings [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] >> >> >> > thanks >> >> >> > GB Noel Paton - 13 Dec 2005 19:17 GMT .....sounds like a good idea to me!
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> > Try also this Winsock fix: [quoted text clipped - 155 lines] >>> >> >> > thanks >>> >> >> > GB GeeBee - 14 Dec 2005 22:43 GMT Tried the Winsockfix - no joy.
Deleted and reinstalled TCP - no joy.
I can still access the Internet via the USB Wifi, but not via the 56K modem.
Looks like a re-install :-(( sigh!
Thanks guys for the help, though.
GB
> ......sounds like a good idea to me! > [quoted text clipped - 156 lines] > >>> >> >> > thanks > >>> >> >> > GB oops!! - 14 Dec 2005 22:49 GMT Are you sure the modem is correctly installed?
Have you tested it in Control Panel > Modem?
Zee
> Tried the Winsockfix - no joy. > [quoted text clipped - 186 lines] >> >>> >> >> > thanks >> >>> >> >> > GB GeeBee - 15 Dec 2005 08:39 GMT Well it was working OK before I ran the Windows Update. The Modem dials up the ISP and connects OK. But I can't ping any external address, nor get any DNS resolution for the Internet.
I have tried connecting with a different laptop and modem, noted the ipconfig results, and then compared it with the problem machine ipconfig. Results are identical.
I can connect the problem machine via a USB Wifi adapter through my router - all that works fine.
I 'll try looking for a modem driver update, maybe that's the problem.
Alternatively, I can try to undo the Windows updates, or else try a System restore to the point prior to it all going pear-shaped.
sigh!
GB
> Are you sure the modem is correctly installed? > [quoted text clipped - 192 lines] > >> >>> >> >> > thanks > >> >>> >> >> > GB Noel Paton - 15 Dec 2005 10:05 GMT Check your firewall isn't blocking? You do have the browser set to connect through the modem, don't you? - not through the LAN???
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> Well it was working OK before I ran the Windows Update. > The Modem dials up the ISP and connects OK. But I can't ping any external [quoted text clipped - 230 lines] >> >> >>> >> >> > thanks >> >> >>> >> >> > GB GeeBee - 16 Dec 2005 19:31 GMT Firewall disabled, and connection is not via the LAN.
However, PROBLEM SOLVED!
I stopped effing around and ran a system restore from a week ago, before I installed the USB Wifi and ran the Windows updates. 10 minutes and all was restored to full working order! I don't say it often but let's hear it for Windows Restore, folks!
Still don't know what the problem was - perhaps some screw-up with the USB Wifi, or possibly the Windows Update. However, the machine is back to operational status, and I can make some progress with it now.
Thanks for the help and support - it kept me sane when all else was falling apart :-))
cheers GB
> Check your firewall isn't blocking? > You do have the browser set to connect through the modem, don't you? - not [quoted text clipped - 200 lines] > >> >> >>> >> >> > names - > >> >> >>> >> >> > it oops!! - 16 Dec 2005 22:43 GMT Great news.
And... well done!
Zee
> Firewall disabled, and connection is not via the LAN. > [quoted text clipped - 241 lines] >> >> >> >>> >> >> > names - >> >> >> >>> >> >> > it
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