Thanks for the advice Mow, I think I'll give firefox a go...
As for upgrading.... not yet, I really like ME. So what's the deal now... do
Microsoft expect everyone to upgrade to 2K/XP because no more support is
going to be given on 9x?
I suppose they have got to make their money some how. <g>
Craig.
(I like my O/S to start up within 5 minutes)
> Use Firefox. It's pop up blocker works rather well. Uninstall all other
> crap toolbars and your system will love you. Really, it will.
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> > Craig.
> (I like my O/S to start up within 5 minutes)
In which case you will really like XP since it loads much faster than
older/legacy Win9x systems such as Win Me. <g> However for many with
somewhat older hardware Win Me will often continue to be the best option.

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> Thanks for the advice Mow, I think I'll give firefox a go...
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> Craig.
> (I like my O/S to start up within 5 minutes)
canna - 19 Dec 2005 14:40 GMT
Hi Mike,
I was just going on feedback from people who use XP. There has been many
times when someone has used my PC at home and commented on how fast it starts
up. I have said to them what OS do you use and they said XP and takes a lot
longer to startup. Also, I'm using Win 2K SP4 on a Compaq Evo, Pentium 4,
1.70 Ghz now at work and this PC takes about 1 and half mins just to get to
the login screen.
However, your the expert Mike and I'm sure you have a lot more experience
and have seen many more PC's startup than me.
Craig.
> > (I like my O/S to start up within 5 minutes)
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> > Craig.
> > (I like my O/S to start up within 5 minutes)
Mike M - 19 Dec 2005 15:12 GMT
Craig,
Win Me is undoubtedly quicker than 98SE and Win2K to load and I know that
fast start up was one of Microsoft's objectives when developing Win Me.
XP also starts up very quickly, even quicker than Win Me, but if the
system only has limited RAM XP can be a real dog. So whilst Win Me can
boot quickly and run happily with 64MB and upwards of RAM (32MB is a bit
slow), XP really seems to need 512MB to start quickly and if run on
systems with 128MB or 256MB can be very slow indeed to start up.
Cheers,

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> Hi Mike,
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> However, your the expert Mike and I'm sure you have a lot more
> experience and have seen many more PC's startup than me.
In addition to the helpful advice that Mike has given, consider this :
http://www.emailbattles.com/archive/battles/security_aacddidjci_dh/
>> Hacker Defender's creator, holy_father (hf), offers several versions of the
>> Hacker Defender rootkit. All are aimed at all versions of Windows NT, XP, 2000
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>> a bug in any userland application, it may damage other processes or even kernel memory,
>> directly without any special code.
With a sufficient amount of memory installed, XP boots very quickly. I'm
not pushing anyone to buy hardware or software. But be aware that older,
unsupported OS' are a security risk. And we all know the nature of
the internet today. Some argue that Win 9x can be sufficiently
protected, in fact, better than NTFS ( Win 2k, XP ). I disagree.
If you can hold out, get a new system next year that comes with Vista
installed. ;)
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
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> Thanks for the advice Mow, I think I'll give firefox a go...
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>>>Craig.
canna - 20 Dec 2005 09:16 GMT
Thanks for the info. At the moment I'm happy with the setup I've got and
can't remember the last time I found any Spyware or Virus on this PC. I am
confident that I'm well protected from the nasties from the net.
"That's why these 9x and ME systems crash a lot."
I see this statement *a lot* but I find that my PC is opposite. Very rare
when something doesn't work or I get a crash.
Also, when Microsoft stop supporting ME will these ME forums still be here?
Thanks,
Craig.
> In addition to the helpful advice that Mike has given, consider this :
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> >>>Craig.
Mike M - 20 Dec 2005 09:41 GMT
I agree with you and cannot accept Mow's statement "That's why these 9x
and ME systems crash a lot." since it is so far from the truth and the
statement about rootkits he quotes is IMO of almost no relevance
whatsoever to Win 9x systems however highly esteemed the source might be.
As to your question about how long these newsgroups will survive after end
June 2006, I have no idea but suspect that Microsoft might attempt some
(overdue) consolidation of the various Win 9x newsgroups however that is
far from easy given the nature of Usenet where a "dead" newsgroup can
quite easily be resurrected but at least the newsgroups carried on the
Microsoft servers could be reduced.

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> Thanks for the info. At the moment I'm happy with the setup I've got
> and can't remember the last time I found any Spyware or Virus on this
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> Also, when Microsoft stop supporting ME will these ME forums still be
> here?
canna - 20 Dec 2005 10:01 GMT
Thanks Mike, fingers crossed.... These groups are invaluable to me and I
think a lot of other people will agree. I suppose there's always Google, but
it's not the same ; ' )
Craig.
> I agree with you and cannot accept Mow's statement "That's why these 9x
> and ME systems crash a lot." since it is so far from the truth and the
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> > Also, when Microsoft stop supporting ME will these ME forums still be
> > here?
MowGreen - 21 Dec 2005 05:27 GMT
I just quoted him as a warning as to what some deranged individual could
accomplish *if* said individual really had a strong desire to cripple 9x
systems. As of now, that's not happening, thank goodness.
As far as ME being unstable, it's still running on my dual boot box and
quite nicely. But not as my main OS, more as a research sys.
And, I can even surf without a firewall for short periods of time due to
forgetting to turning it on. Would never do that using XP SP2, no matter
how patched it's been. Of course SP2 would be nagging about no firewall,
but that's another matter.
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
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Never Forgotten
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> I agree with you and cannot accept Mow's statement "That's why these 9x
> and ME systems crash a lot." since it is so far from the truth and the
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> newsgroup can quite easily be resurrected but at least the newsgroups
> carried on the Microsoft servers could be reduced.