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David - 01 Oct 2004 11:47 GMT

When I run winipcfg my network adapter is showing up
as 'PCI Bus Master Adapter' rather than the adapter name.
Instead of 'IP address' it says 'IP autoconfiguration'
with ip of type 169.etc & subnet of 255.255.0.0.

This ip cannot be release 7/or renewed.

How can I get my network adapter name to show up so that I
can release & renew the ip address?

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N. Miller - 02 Oct 2004 00:15 GMT

> When I run winipcfg my network adapter is showing up
> as 'PCI Bus Master Adapter' rather than the adapter name.
> Instead of 'IP address' it says 'IP autoconfiguration'
> with ip of type 169.etc & subnet of 255.255.0.0.

> This ip cannot be release 7/or renewed.

It can't be released because it wasn't assigned by a DHCP server. Addresses
in the 169.254.0.0/16 IP range are automatically assigned when a DHCP server
can't be found.

> How can I get my network adapter name to show up so that I
> can release & renew the ip address?

I would start by checking the connection between the computer and the
network which has the DHCP server running. Bad port, cable, or NIC could be
the problem.

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David - 02 Oct 2004 01:41 GMT

Norman

It's a simple home network involving 2 computers and an
adsl modem. The computers are supposed to be getting their
ips from the modem but aren't.

The modem is connected by usb & therefore has a network
emulation. The computer connected to the modem can connect
to the internet (hence this message). The other computer
can share files, printers, etc, but cannot connect to the
internet. Both computers are showing their network card
as 'PCI bus master adapter' with ips of 169.etc instead of
192.etc.

It would appear therefore that something is preventing
these nics from getting their ips from the modem. Any
ideas on what this might be? (I'll pose the same question
to the modem manufacturer & if they respond I'll post it
here.)

Thanks

David

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>network which has the DHCP server running. Bad port, cable, or NIC could be
>the problem.

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B.J.Honeycut - 02 Oct 2004 02:41 GMT

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:41:31 GMT,"David"
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> Norman
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> cable, or NIC could be
>>the problem.

Some simple facts are missing:
1. Does the modem have Routing capabilities?
2. Does it include a switch? or
3. Are you using ICS?

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David - 03 Oct 2004 00:28 GMT

Mike

Yes the modem has routing capabilities & includes a
switch. I have tried ICS but this prevents both computers
from connecting to the internet not just one. So at the
moment both computers are set up to obtain ip
automatically with no gateway & DNS disabled.

David

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>On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:41:31 GMT,"David"
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>2. Does it include a switch? or
>3. Are you using ICS?

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B.J.Honeycut - 03 Oct 2004 04:58 GMT

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> Mike
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>>Mike
>>.

USB setups can bite sometimes, but I would first try setting up static IP's
for the machines rather than using DHCP - I don't know why but it sometimes
works. Second, you're right to leave ICS out of the picture. If you can
access the modem setup pages, determine the DHCP range and pick addresses
outside that but still in the subnet, or just disable DHCP temporarilly.

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David - 03 Oct 2004 13:14 GMT

Mike

My first step was to set up static ips, this is how I set
a network at work. This works fine. The modem in that case
was connected via ethernet as the computer had 2 nics.

Manually specifying ips still only allows the computer
connected to the modem internet access. It has the added
downside of preventing the modem web access to work. So to
modify a modem setting I have to switch to find ip
automatically, reboot the computer then I can log onto web
interface its a very slow process.

I'll temporarily switch dhcp off & manually assign the ips
and see if that works. I'll let you know how I get on -
tomorrow night perhaps.

David

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>On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:28:42 GMT,"David"
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>access the modem setup pages, determine the DHCP range and pick addresses
>outside that but still in the subnet, or just disable DHCP temporarilly.

hidden;

> it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in

splendor."

> Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet.
>
>Mike
>.

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senyumlah - 13 Oct 2004 01:27 GMT

Mike

I managed to get it up and running on the weekend. What I did was disable
the DHCP in the modem. The NIC in PC1 was set to find ip automatically. I
then ran ICS. PC2 was also set up to find ip automatically.

This has set up both pcs on a 192.168.0.etc subnet, but they both talk to
each other, share files, etc. They both have internet access & the modem can
be accessed via the web interface.

David

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B.J.Honeycut - 13 Oct 2004 03:22 GMT

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> Mike
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>> >Mike
>> >.

Glad to hear it, thanks for the feedback. Usually theres some redundancy
between routers or something like that to get in the way.

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N. Miller - 03 Oct 2004 04:55 GMT

> It's a simple home network involving 2 computers and an
> adsl modem. The computers are supposed to be getting their
> ips from the modem but aren't.

So I gathered.

> The modem is connected by usb & therefore has a network
> emulation. The computer connected to the modem can connect
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> as 'PCI bus master adapter' with ips of 169.etc instead of
> 192.etc.

Which tells me that the computers can't reach a DHCP server. This is
important because the DHCP server is how the NICs obtain an IP address
automatically. But, that USB connection may hold the key.

> It would appear therefore that something is preventing
> these nics from getting their ips from the modem. Any
> ideas on what this might be? (I'll pose the same question
> to the modem manufacturer & if they respond I'll post it
> here.)

Yep. That seems to be the case; that something is preventing these NICs from
obtaining an IP address.

Getting back to the USB modem; If, in fact, you have the modem connected by
USB, could you expand on that in detail? Is there a USB cable from the modem
to one computer? How does the other computer connect to the modem? What
ports are the Ethernet cables from the computers connecting to? Heck, what
brand and model of modem is it?

A USB modem will have, aside from the power connection, either two, or three
connectors. If it is a pure USB modem, there will be a connector (either an
'F-Type', or an 'RJ-11') for the provider's network (cable or telephone),
and there will be a Type B USB connector. You will connect the USB cable
Type B plug to the modem, and the Type A plug to the computer.

If that is all that you have, how do you get the rest of the LAN talking to
the Internet? ICS on the modem connected computer.

Tell us what your modem configuration is. What kind of connection on the
provider's side (my Westell Wirespeed has an RJ-11 socket for the telephone
network; my brother-in-law's cable modem has an F-Type connector for the
cable network)?

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David - 03 Oct 2004 13:05 GMT

Nick

The modem is a Netcom NB1300 it is connected via usb as I
have mentioned. The connection between the modem to the
telphone line is RJ111. The two computers connect via a
cross over cable (cat 5e).

I have tried ICS but it prevents either computer from
connecting. If I manually type in ip addresses the
computer connected to the modem has internet access,
however the web interface of the modem ceases. If I assign
ip automatically, the web interface works.

If I assign an ip, say 192.168.1.100 & put as the gateway
the modem ip, then there is no internet access. Delete the
gateway and internet access in restored. Giving 2nd
computer ip of say 192.168.1.101 only allows the twos
computers to talk.

In my nic list (via winipcfg) there is one for the modem.
This was getting its ip automatically too, the ips were
211.etc. I have released & renewed this and it is now on
the say subnet as the modem & has the modem as the
gateway. I thought this would help with the problem but
has appeared to have little effect.

The modem because its working via usb will automatically
switch on NAT, could this interfere?

One final thing if the ips are obtained automatically I
can ping both the modem and the ethernet simulation.
However specify the ip and I can ping the simulation but
not modem. Computer 2 cannot ping either modem or
simulation regardless of how it gets its ip. Computers can
always ping each other.

Hope this helps

David

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>network; my brother-in-law's cable modem has an F-Type connector for the
>cable network)?

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