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Windows Forum / Windows Me / Networking / January 2005XP/ME Network problem
I have two machines that I would like to network using a crossover cable but am having problems. Basically, I can't get the 2 Machines to see each other. I have run Network Setup wizards to no avail. I have scoured the net for a way to solve my problems and tried numerous suggestions, still no luck. Many places on the Net state that setting up a simple network between two Windows machines using a crossover cable is easy!!! I have considered buying a Hub but for all I know (not a lot but learning fast) I may well be no better off. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Here are the details: Machine 1 OS: XP Home NIC: VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adaptor (built into the Motherboard). Selecting properties of the NIC in Device Manager, the settings are as follows: Advanced Tab: Adaptive Interrupt: Enabled Connection Type: Auto-Negotiation Flow Control: Hardware Default (Auto) Network Address: Not Present Receive Buffers: 64 Transmit Buffers: 64 When viewed through Network Connections it shows: Name: Local Area Connection Type: LAN or High-Speed Internet Status: Connected Device Name: VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adaptor If I right-click on this it shows the following Local Area Connection Properties: General Tab: Client for Microsoft Networks (ticked) File & Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks (ticked) Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) (ticked) Properties for this are: Use the following IP Address: (Selected) IP Address: 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway: Blank Use the following DNS server address: (Selected) Preferred DNS Server: Blank Alternate DNS Server: Blank Authentication Tab: Enable IEEE 802.1x. (ticked) EAP Type: Smart Card or other certificate Authenticate as computer when computer information is available (ticked) Authenticate as guest when user or computer is unavailable (ticked) Full Computer Name: MACHINE1 Workgroup: MACHINES IPCONFIG Results: Windows IP Configuration: Host Name: Machine1 Primary DNS Suffix: Blank Node Type: Unknown IP Routing Enabled: No WINS Proxy Enabled: No Ethernet adaptor Local Area Connection: Description: VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adaptor DHCP Enabled: No IP Address: 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway: Blank Various drives/folders are set as Shared Firewall is off. This machine also has a ADSL Broadband Internet connection via a USB Modem ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Machine 2 OS: WinME NIC: SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) When I select Network within Control Panel the following is displayed: Configuration Tab: Client for Microsoft Networks. Properties for this are: Logon and restore Network connections (selected) Microsoft Family Logon SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) Properties for this are: Driver Type Tab. Click the type of the network driver to use: All greyed out - nothing selected Bindings Tab: TCP/IP (ticked) Advanced Tab: Link Speed/Duplex Mode: Auto Mode Network Address: Not present TCP/IP Properties for this are: IP Address Tab: Specify an IP Address (selected) IP Address: 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 WINS Config Tab: Disable WINS Resolution Gateway Tab: All Blank DNS Config Tab: Disable DNS NetBIOS Tab: All greyed out but 'I want to enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP protocol' is selected Advanced Tab: Allow binding to ATM. Yes is selected Bindings Tab: Client for Microsoft Networks (ticked) File and Printer sharing for MS Networks (ticked) MS Family Logon (ticked) File and Printer sharing for MS Networks Properties for this are: Browse Master: Automatic LM Announce: No Full Computer Name: MACHINE2 Workgroup: MACHINES Various drives/folders are set as Shared Firewall is off. IPCONFIG Results: Windows IP Configuration: Host Name: Machine1 DNS Servers: Blank Node Type: Broadcast NetBIOS Scope ID: Blank IP Routing Enabled: No WINS Proxy Enabled: No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS: No 0 Ethernet Adaptor: Description: NDIS 5.0 driver DHCP Enabled: No IP Address: 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway: Blank Primary WINS Server: Blank Secondary WINS Server: Blank www.careyholzman.com/net1.htm Carey >I have two machines that I would like to network using a crossover cable >but am having problems. [quoted text clipped - 231 lines] > > Secondary WINS Server: Blank > I have two machines that I would like to network using a crossover cable but > am having problems. > Basically, I can't get the 2 Machines to see each other. > I have run Network Setup wizards to no avail. I have scoured the net for a > way to solve my problems and tried numerous suggestions, still no luck. > Many places on the Net state that setting up a simple network between two > Windows machines using a crossover cable is easy!!! I have considered buying > a Hub but for all I know (not a lot but learning fast) I may well be no > better off. Any suggestions would be most welcome. From your comments about a USB ADSL modem I assume that you also have ICS set up, with the Windows XP computer as the "gateway" computer. That is unfortunate; for sharing an Interenet connection a broadband router is the preferred way to go, but that requires an Ethernet ADSL modem. Anyway, that really isn't the problem. There is an extremely small chance that a cross over cable won't work to connect to computers. Those cables were designed for linking hubs and switches; connecting two computers should be done with a hub, or a switch. Most broadband routers incorporate a switch; but they only work with Ethernet modems. Anyway, your problem isn't the Internet connection, but the basic ability of the computers to communicate. I see one setting on your Windows Me computer which differs from mine; on the TCP/IP Propteries "advanced" tab you have "Allow Binding to ATM" set to "Yes". On my computer this is set to "No". Try changing that; but wait! I am not done, yet... I see no mention of the setting for the "browsemaster". This is found on the "File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks" properties, the "advanced" tab. Try setting that to "disabled" on the Windows Me computer. While you're at it, make sure that the "LM Announce" setting is at "No". It seems that it can take up to 15 minutes after starting the computers until the network can sort out which computer should be the "Browsemaster". In your case I am pretty certain that should be the Windows XP computer. But, if the Windows Me computer is not set to "disabled", that computer will establish itself as the "browsemaster", which can then interfere with the Windows XP computer. When the Windows Me computer "browsemaster" setting is "disabled", give your network about twenty minutes, then try and see if they can see each other. Other than that, I am guessing that you took your "ipconfig" readings while disconnected from the Internet. I saw no gateway IP addresses. With an Internet connection, the Windows XP gateway IP address should match your ISP connection IP address, while your Windows Me gateway IP address should be the same as the Windows XP LAN IP address; I.e., 192.168.0.1. Both computers should have DNS server IP addresses which match those of your ISP.  SignatureNorman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint I have both at home and had a similar problem because of zone alarm on both computers. If ZA is at it's weakest settings or off it works. Mine are behind a router firewall so it's not a problem for me (I think.) Hope this helps. >I have two machines that I would like to network using a crossover cable >but am having problems. [quoted text clipped - 231 lines] > > Secondary WINS Server: Blank > I have both at home and had a similar problem because of zone alarm on both > computers. If ZA is at it's weakest settings or off it works. Mine are > behind a router firewall so it's not a problem for me (I think.) Hope this > helps. Did you not put your LAN IP address range in ZA's trusted zone? I don't know if it wants the netmask (typically 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0), or an IP address range (typically 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.255). SignatureNorman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint Sure didn't. Can you do this on the free version? If so how? >> I have both at home and had a similar problem because of zone alarm on >> both [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > if it wants the netmask (typically 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0), or an IP > address range (typically 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.255). > Sure didn't. Can you do this on the free version? If so how? I haven't used ZAF since I discovered that it won't offer full protection on an ICS host. Although I switched from using ICS to using a router when I went to ADSL service, I just stayed with the firewall that worked for me; for the outbound coverage. I am pretty sure that there is a way to add your LAN IP address range so ZAF will trust it, but I just can't remember how I did it. Hopefully, somebody who does know will come along; or, explore all of the ZAF configuration menus. If you do find a setting, and it works, post back to this thread for the benefit of other ZAF users. SignatureNorman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 08:10:43 GMT,N. Miller <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> penned this whopper in microsoft.public.windowsme.networking >> Sure didn't. Can you do this on the free version? If so how? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the ZAF configuration menus. If you do find a setting, and it works, > post back to this thread for the benefit of other ZAF users. IIRC, the only difference between ZAP and ZAF was that you have to add the address range manually. Signature"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden; it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor." Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet. Mike |
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