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Linksys WPC54G not showing in winipcfg
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Lunaray - 29 Jul 2005 21:08 GMT When I run winipcfg the drop-down list doesn't show my wireless adapter, yet in Device Manager, it shows that it's working properly with no conflicts. Also, the software that came with the adapter, shows that it's active and connected to the Access Point (WRT54G router) but there is no communication between the two!
Please help!
Ray
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Steve Winograd [MVP] - 30 Jul 2005 04:01 GMT >When I run winipcfg the drop-down list doesn't show my wireless adapter, yet >in Device Manager, it shows that it's working properly with no conflicts. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Ray There's probably a problem with the binding of the TCP/IP protocol to the WPC54G network adapter.
Go to Control Panel | Network and look for a "TCP/IP -> WPC54G" entry. If it's there, remove it. Then, click Add | Protocol | Add | Microsoft | TCP/IP | OK to add it. Click OK to exit, and reboot.
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Lunaray - 30 Jul 2005 07:28 GMT Hi Steve, I was hoping that you were on to something so I did what you suggested! I went to Control Panel/Network and there was an entry called: "TCP/IP -> Wireless-G Notebook Adapter v.2.0", so I removed it! Then I selected "Client for Microsoft Networks" and chose Add/Protocol/TCP/IP and clicked okay, I got an "Updating Settings" dialog, then I was prompted to restart my computer so that the new settings would take effect (those might not be the exact words, but you know what I mean!) After restarting, I checked Control Panel/Network, and I expected to see a TCP/IP entry for "Client for Microsoft Networks" but there wasn't one; instead, the "TCP/IP -> Wireless-G Notebook Adapter v.2.0" was back, and my adapter still doesn't show up in the "winipcfg" drop-down list! And I'm still not talking to my router i.e. connected to the Access Point, but no signal, and no router pingy! :-(
Thanks for your help!
Ray
Steve Winograd [MVP] - 30 Jul 2005 09:33 GMT >>>When I run winipcfg the drop-down list doesn't show my wireless adapter, yet >>>in Device Manager, it shows that it's working properly with no conflicts. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Ray "Client for Microsoft Networks" is irrelevant here. TCP/IP binds to network adapters (like the WPC54G), not to network clients.
What exactly appears in the Winipcfg drop-down list -- I'd expect "PPP Adapter" (dial-up networking) and at least one actual network adapter. What network adapters do you see if you do "ipconfig /all" in a command prompt window (Start | Run | command)?
Un-installing and re-installing the WPC54G and its software might help.
I don't know if this applies to your situation, but I've had so much trouble getting Linksys network adapters to work, over many years and in several versions of Windows, that I won't buy Linksys for myself or for my consulting clients. If a client's computer has a problem with a Linksys adapter and an un-install/re-install doesn't fix it, I replace the Linksys with a different brand -- it's less expensive for the client (and better for my sanity) than trying to figure out what's wrong with the Linksys. For wireless G adapters, Motorola is the best that I've found, followed by D-Link, Netgear, and Belkin.
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N. Miller - 30 Jul 2005 18:32 GMT > I don't know if this applies to your situation, but I've had so much > trouble getting Linksys network adapters to work, over many years and > in several versions of Windows, that I won't buy Linksys for myself or > for my consulting clients. I have tried running two different Linksys products. Both were dogs right out of the box. I never got my BEFSR11 straightened out. I did get my friend to trade a Linksys WAP for a D-Link WAP within three days of the purchase, while a straight across exchange was still possible.
Although I have never owned a D-Link device, working on both the D-Link WAP, and the D-Link router that my friend bought has convinced me that they have a solid product line.
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Lunaray - 30 Jul 2005 19:37 GMT The only two adapters shown in the drop-down list of winipcfg are: TNET1130 (?) and PPP! Here's what I get when I run "ipconfig/all" from a DOS prompt:
0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : TNET1130
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-13-10-FB-9C-C1
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Media Status. . . . . . . . : Disconnected
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
1 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
Also, this TNET1130 (whatever it is) doesn't show up in the list when I click on control panel/network!
Since my adapter isn't showing in "winipcfg", or "ipconfig/all", doesn't this mean I have a Windows problem? My point being that if I call Linksys again and point this out, they'll probably just blow me off and say "it's not our problem"! If I upgraded my laptop to Windows XP, or if I did a complete factory restore from the original Dell disks, might this solve my problem?
Like Norman told me, looks like my problem is that I'm not getting an ip address from the router, probably 'cause it doesn't see an adapter to send it to. (but it shows up in Device Manager, and the adapter software says that it's active and connected to the Access Point)
By the way, in the TCP/IP properties of my adapter, I have everything set to automatic i.e. DNS disabled, WINS resolution assigned by DHCP, etc., I haven't assigned any values for anything, all DHCP!! Also, I've uninstalled/reinstalled the adapter/software numerous times!
Thank you again for your help!
Steve Winograd [MVP] - 30 Jul 2005 20:39 GMT >The only two adapters shown in the drop-down list of winipcfg are: TNET1130 >(?) and PPP! Here's what I get when I run "ipconfig/all" from a DOS prompt: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >Also, this TNET1130 (whatever it is) doesn't show up in the list when I >click on control panel/network! It's probably a wired Ethernet adapter that appears in the list with a different name. What do you see in the list?
>Since my adapter isn't showing in "winipcfg", or "ipconfig/all", doesn't >this mean I have a Windows problem? My point being that if I call Linksys >again and point this out, they'll probably just blow me off and say "it's >not our problem"! If I upgraded my laptop to Windows XP, or if I did a >complete factory restore from the original Dell disks, might this solve my >problem? I think it's a Linksys problem, not a Windows problem.
Upgrading a troublesome Windows installation isn't likely to fix a problem. I only do upgrades on installations that are working well.
A complete factory restore might or might not help, but it would be a real pain -- you'd have to back up your data files before, reinstall your applications and restore your data after, etc.
>Like Norman told me, looks like my problem is that I'm not getting an ip >address from the router, probably 'cause it doesn't see an adapter to send >it to. (but it shows up in Device Manager, and the adapter software says >that it's active and connected to the Access Point) Winipcfg and Ipconfig show that the TCP/IP protocol isn't binding to the network adapter. That's why the adapter can't get an IP address from the router.
>By the way, in the TCP/IP properties of my adapter, I have everything set to >automatic i.e. DNS disabled, WINS resolution assigned by DHCP, etc., I >haven't assigned any values for anything, all DHCP!! Also, I've >uninstalled/reinstalled the adapter/software numerous times! Those look like the right settings.
OK, you've uninstalled and reinstalled the adapter several times without solving the problem. Based on my experience, I think that the Linksys network adapter and/or its software is defective. I'd stop trying to fix it, uninstall it permanently, return it for a refund, and replace it with a different brand.
>Thank you again for your help! You're welcome!
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Lunaray - 31 Jul 2005 02:24 GMT I guess the "TNET1130" is my adapter, I tried the latest driver from Linksys's web site and after I unzipped it, I noticed a couple of files with that name. The different driver didn't work, so I'm doing what you suggested, I'm going to return it and try a different brand, I've had it with Lynksys!!
Thanks again!
N. Miller - 30 Jul 2005 09:41 GMT > Hi Steve, I was hoping that you were on to something so I did what you > suggested! I went to Control Panel/Network and there was an entry called: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to my router i.e. connected to the Access Point, but no signal, and no > router pingy! :-( There is no entry labeled "TCP/IP -> Clienet for Microsoft Networks". In my network configuration table, the topmost entry is "Client for Microsoft Networks". The properties for that entry are simple; just a "General" tab, and some settings. On mine I have selected, "Quick logon" in the "Network logon options". I have no Windows NT domain servers, so I leave that one unchecked.
Below that should be an entry with a green PCB icon labeled, "Wireless-G Notebook Adapter v.2.0". Bringing up the properties for that one should show a menu box with tabs; mine has three tabs, but that might be driver dependent. I did not have to change anything on those tabs.
The "TCP/IP -> Wireless-G Notebook Adapter v.2.0" sounds like the proper one for the adapter. It indicates that the "Bindings" tab on the adapter properties is checked. Here is where things can go wrong. I have five tabs, but I have seen fewer on other computers. My tabs are:
"IP Address" ------------- Mine is set for Obtain an IP address automatically. If your router is making DHCP assignments of IP addresses, this setting should work. Other than that, I have the "Detect connection to network media" box checked. I have flipped between checked and unchecked over time without seeing an effect. I am not enough of a network guru to fully understand the purpose of this one, so if an MVP says I am wrong, well, I must be wrong. :P
"WINS Configuration" -------------------- Mine is set to "Disable WINS Resolution". I don't have WINS server. You probably don't, either. If you do, you should have mentioned it. If you don't know, it is unlikely that you have one.
"Gateway" --------- There are no entries here. This should not be used unless you are setting up a static LAN. If you are, just say so; setting this up for static IP addresses isn't too hard.
"DNS Configuration" ------------------- The same thing applies to this tab as for the "Gateway" tab. Unless you are setting up a static LAN, nothing here.
"NetBIOS" --------- This one should have a check in the box, and be grayed out. You are behind a router, so disabling this is not necessary; and it *will* break the TCP/IP LAN.
"Advanced" ---------- As far as I know, mine is at the default settings. The only property is "Allow Binding to ATM", and it is set to, "No". Set this protocol to be the default protocol" is checked.
"Bindings" ---------- "Client for Microsoft Networks" is checked; necessary if you are going to access LAN shares from this computer.
"File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks" is checked; necessary if you are going to make any files, and/or an attached printer available to other computers on the LAN.
"Microsoft Family Logon" ------------------------ Most people don't have this on a Windows ME computer, but I was playing with setting up different users. It is probably a drain on my resources, though, and does not afford any security. It mostly enables a single computer to be shared by people who want to have there own Desktop, and other such personalization.
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