Windows Forum / Windows Me / Networking / September 2006
Filesharing: XP & ME
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Ed - 29 Aug 2006 23:45 GMT I have a lan setup using a Netgear FM114P modem. I've been using it a long time, mostly for filesharing and sharing of a DSL modem.
The problem is after I switch my primary computer (Goliath) to XP Professional I have not been able to get to shared directories on one of my other machines running ME (OldGoliath). The ME shared directories show up under MyNetworkPlaces on the XP, but when I try to access those directories I'm asked for a password. The dialog seems to be asking for a machine/user password, i.e., it says password OldGoliath/Guest. I've tried the Windows login password for the Guest user on the ME machine, the login password for the admin user on the ME machine, and the password for the shared directory. It will not accept any of them. I have another XP machine on the network and have exactly the same problem from it, so i know it's something on the ME machine.
BTW, I can access the shared file on Goliath from OldGoliath.
My suspicion is there is something in the ME registry left over from the Win95 that was on it years ago. I say that since if I select OldGolith in the Microsoft Windows Network tree from Windows Explorer and look at its Properties it says Type: Windows 95 Workstation. It's almost as if it thinks I have specified User level access control, but I have not.
Anyone have any idea how I can straighten this out?
TIA
Ed
N. Miller - 30 Aug 2006 01:34 GMT > I have a lan setup using a Netgear FM114P modem. I've been using it a > long time, mostly for [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Anyone have any idea how I can straighten this out? When you created the shared folders on the Windows ME computer, you probably created password protected shares. At least, in my experience, if a Windows ME shared resource is password protected, the Windows XP computer requests a password. If you don't know the passwords (which are not the Guest, or other user passwords of a WinXP setup), or you don't want the shares password protected, just "unshare" the resource on the Windows ME computer, then share it again. When you re-establish the share, either write down the new share name and password, or don't set a password on the share.
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Ed - 30 Aug 2006 04:04 GMT >> I have a lan setup using a Netgear FM114P modem. I've been using it >> a [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > set a > password on the share. Thanks, Norman.
I do know the password of the shared directories on the ME machine, but it doesn't work. IOW, I've done what you suggested.
What exactly does want? Is it asking for: (a) the shared directory on the ME machine I am trying to access (b) the password of the Guest user on the ME machine (c) the password of the user on the XP machine from which the access is being attempted
Ed
N. Miller - 31 Aug 2006 19:36 GMT > Thanks, Norman. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > (c) the password of the user on the XP machine from which the access > is being attempted Based on the Windows XP computer on my LAN, when Windows XP tries to access a password protected share on the Windows ME computer, it passes a password request from the Windows ME computer to the Windows XP user. I can't get to the Windows XP computer, right now. In the past, I have just left the user as the Windows ME computer name, and the password for the Windows ME shared resource. If you are splitting between a read-only password, and a full access password on the Windows ME computer, you might need to change that to full access only.
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N. Miller - 01 Sep 2006 05:30 GMT > What exactly does want? Is it asking for: > (a) the shared directory on the ME machine I am trying to access This one. I just had a chance to check. The password box that popped up was preloaded with the User Name: "Megumi/Guest". I put in the password I had set for the share on the Windows ME computer (Megumi) without changing the User Name. Windows XP got access to the shared folder on the Windows ME computer.
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Steve Winograd [MVP] - 30 Aug 2006 09:45 GMT >I have a lan setup using a Netgear FM114P modem. I've been using it a >long time, mostly for [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >Ed When you access a password-protected Windows 95/98/Me shared directory from Windows XP, the password prompt always shows the name of the computer that owns the share, followed by the account name "Guest". It's prompting for the password that you assigned to the shared directory on 95/98/Me, not for the password of any user account.
I agree with Norman's suggestion: un-share the shared directory on Me, then re-share it with the desired password and try accessing it from XP again.
If that doesn't fix the problem, try this on the XP Pro computer: go to Control Panel > User Accounts, click your user account, click "Manage my network passwords", and remove any stored passwords for network shares. Then try accessing the share again.
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Ed - 30 Aug 2006 20:08 GMT > When you access a password-protected Windows 95/98/Me shared > directory [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > "Manage my network passwords", and remove any stored passwords for > network shares. Then try accessing the share again. Steve, Norman:
Tried it all. Only thing that works is to share without a password. If I give it a password in the share and try to access it I am asked for a password, but it will not accept that password.
Thanks anyway.
Ed
Ed - 30 Aug 2006 21:44 GMT The more I think about this the more I begin to think it's an XP problem. I now realize that when I share a directory on one of my XP machines there is no place to give a password. So, what it amounts to is the way I have my network set up, if I want to share a directory it is without password protection. Since the Netgear router is a firewall, I guess that's OK.
Ed
Steve Winograd [MVP] - 31 Aug 2006 08:39 GMT >The more I think about this the more I begin to think it's an XP >problem. I now realize [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Ed Windows XP doesn't have a way to define passwords for its shared folders. Only Windows 95, 98, and Me do.
Your router will prevent other people on the Internet from accessing your shared folders. A firewall program on each computer (XP's built-in firewall or a third-party program) would add a second layer of access protection.
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Ed - 06 Sep 2006 21:00 GMT > Windows XP doesn't have a way to define passwords for its shared > folders. Only Windows 95, 98, and Me do. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > built-in firewall or a third-party program) would add a second layer > of access protection. Thanks, Steve.
That's what I noticed. Yet, Xp Professional is supposed to be a more secure environment, so it would seem that PW protected shares would be better. Wonder why they took it away? My guess is they are discouraging sharing of directories, pushing instead putting things into the Shared Documents directory structure. I find that a nuisance.
Ed
Steve Winograd [MVP] - 07 Sep 2006 08:31 GMT >> Windows XP doesn't have a way to define passwords for its shared >> folders. Only Windows 95, 98, and Me do. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Ed They took PW protection away in XP because XP is based on Windows NT and 2000, which never had password protection. XP isn't based on Windows 95/98/Me.
Windows XP has a way to control access to shared folders that's much more powerful and secure than passwords. Ron Lowe and I have written a web page with details:
Windows XP Professional File Sharing http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm
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