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Doug - 28 Sep 2003 18:28 GMT

hello! 3 machines, all ME, cablemodem with hub. All
machines are assigned an IP by ISP..no sharing not router
etc. None of machines will see the other. All file and
print sharing boxes are checked. The network just shows
the individual machines not the other two. any help is
appreciated.

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BobC - 28 Sep 2003 21:16 GMT

"Doug" <tac001@insightbb.com> wrote in news:038201c385e5$e5f21b40
$a101280a@phx.gbl:

> hello! 3 machines, all ME, cablemodem with hub. All
> machines are assigned an IP by ISP..no sharing not router
> etc. None of machines will see the other. All file and
> print sharing boxes are checked. The network just shows
> the individual machines not the other two. any help is
> appreciated.

Replace the hub with a router.

Each of your computers is directly connected to the Internet with your
configuration, so you do not have a LAN.

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melvin - 29 Sep 2003 00:00 GMT

Hello;

My experience agrees with the suggestion made by BobC. You
have to install a router. I struggled using a DSL Modem
along with a Netgear hub which connected 3 ME computers.
This configuration will not work properly. You get what I
call a pseudo LAN. It is a curse. Remember, your ISP
provides you with one, and only one computer address
(unless you are willing to pay for 2 0r more.). The router
assigns sub-addresses to the computers connected to it
which makes them distinguisable from one another for
outgoing and incoming traffic. This is the principle task
of the router. Try it. It works.

P.S. Do no despair regarding the addition of a router.
They will all work with your DSL modem. They are user
friendly. You can purchase a cable router on the Internet,
via Ebay cheap($25.00)because everyone is stampeding to
upgrade to wireless connections.Good luck.

melvin

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Steve Winograd [MVP] - 28 Sep 2003 21:56 GMT

>hello! 3 machines, all ME, cablemodem with hub. All
>machines are assigned an IP by ISP..no sharing not router
>etc. None of machines will see the other. All file and
>print sharing boxes are checked. The network just shows
>the individual machines not the other two. any help is
>appreciated.

The answer that follows applies to computers that connect to a cable
modem or DSL modem through a hub or switch. It doesn't apply if they
connect through a broadband router.

By default, ME uses the TCP/IP protocol for file and printer sharing.
That isn't appropriate with your setup for these reasons:

1. If your cable or DSL provider assigns IP addresses in different
subnets to your computers, it isn't possible for them to communicate
with each other using TCP/IP.

2. Since your computers connect directly to the Internet through the
cable or DSL modem, they receive public IP addresses that are
accessible by everyone on the Internet. Using TCP/IP for file sharing
could let other people access your shared files.

The solution is to choose a different protocol for file sharing
(either NetBEUI or IPX/SPX), install that protocol on all computers,
and un-bind sharing from TCP/IP.

To un-bind sharing from TCP/IP:

1. Go to Control Panel | Network.
2. Double click "TCP/IP->network adapter".
3. Click Bindings.
4. Un-check all of the boxes.

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Carey Holzman - 29 Sep 2003 08:49 GMT

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Carey

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