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Can't find Windows Loader Installer

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ms@invalid.com - 22 May 2006 22:47 GMT
I've had no trouble before, shut down normally the other day.

Cold boot just now, after BIOS screen, after password screen, next phase,
get the error screen "can't find Windows Loader Installer", it shows the
path statement.

The path statement is to a subfolder in my Download folder, this is not in
my  Windows folder, there is nothing in my Download folder that would
effect Windows bootup.

This screen stops the bootup process.

In Task Manager, Windows Loader Installer, run once, and something else, no
other entries.

This computer is not on the internet, recent virus scan was clean.

Advice?

TIA
Mart - 23 May 2006 00:10 GMT
Try running System Restore - if you can access it in Normal Mode - if not,
have you tried booting into Safe Mode?

Boot into Safe Mode (Ctrl or F8 keys during bootup) and let it continue to
the Help Centre (may take a few minutes). Halfway down the page, select and
run System Restore.

Then pick the last time that the PC was working normally.

See if that improves things.

Mart

> I've had no trouble before, shut down normally the other day.
>
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>
> TIA
ms@invalid.com - 23 May 2006 00:27 GMT
> Try running System Restore - if you can access it in Normal Mode - if
> not, have you tried booting into Safe Mode?
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>
> Mart

To add to my OP, it progresses through the password screen, as always I
cancel, the next screen is the error message.

I first held down F8 during bootup, no difference.

Next I held down CTRL during bootup, still windows normally loads as
described, not Safe Mode.

Advice?

>> I've had no trouble before, shut down normally the other day.
>>
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>>
>> TIA
Mart - 23 May 2006 07:08 GMT
You've tried the 'Official' MS method of holding down or 'stabbing at' the
Ctrl or the F8 keys, BUT you do need to do this IMMEDIATELY you power up
your PC and keep 'stabbing' at them before the
WinMe splash screen shows. You may even need to keep them pressed throughout
the boot process. You could also try the same using the Shift key.

If however, you are still unable to get into Safe Mode, try booting using
the Windows Startup (floppy) Disk and choose options 2) or 3)
At the A:\> prompt, type "scanreg /restore" (no quotes and note the space
between the g and  /) then press Enter.
Follow the screen prompts and when asked, select the last 'good' date prior
to your problems, continuing with the instructions.

Don't forget to remove the floppy disk BEFORE you tell the machine to
reboot.

However, what also worries me a little is your need to cancel your logon
screen - but that's for another time.

Mart

>> Try running System Restore - if you can access it in Normal Mode - if
>> not, have you tried booting into Safe Mode?
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>>>
>>> TIA
ms@invalid.com - 23 May 2006 20:09 GMT
> You've tried the 'Official' MS method of holding down or 'stabbing at'
> the Ctrl or the F8 keys, BUT you do need to do this IMMEDIATELY you
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> Follow the screen prompts and when asked, select the last 'good' date
> prior to your problems, continuing with the instructions.

Thanks, Mart.

If scanreg works, it would be IDEAL, it saved me in W98. But AFAIK it does
not apply to ME.

Sure enough, I typed exactly as you noted, but I get  "bad command or file
name".

In the boot menu was Safe Mode, but IIRC, System Restore was disabled to
give some benefit before (???).

1. How to get scanreg to work- this would be perfect.

2. In safe mode, if System Restore is N/A, advice?

Thanks,

Mike

> Don't forget to remove the floppy disk BEFORE you tell the machine to
> reboot.
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>>>>
>>>> TIA
ms@invalid.com - 23 May 2006 21:42 GMT
> You've tried the 'Official' MS method of holding down or 'stabbing at'
> the Ctrl or the F8 keys, BUT you do need to do this IMMEDIATELY you
> power up your PC and keep 'stabbing' at them before the
> WinMe splash screen shows. You may even need to keep them pressed
> throughout the boot process. You could also try the same using the Shift
> key.

Thanks, that method works. I kept hitting F8 and did wind up in Safe Mode.
Then I edited the registry and hard drive to remove all instances of the
program that should not have had any effect anyway. Then I rebooted and
everything is fixed!!

Several questions-
please answer my other reply about scanreg for the future.

Also, I checked and System Restore was not disabled in the File System
screen in System in Control Panel. But I looked in my Restore folder and
the subfolders are all labled 12/03. ????

So I am not creating new System Restore points. How to do it?

Thanks

Mike
> If however, you are still unable to get into Safe Mode, try booting
> using the Windows Startup (floppy) Disk and choose options 2) or 3)
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>>>>
>>>> TIA
Mart - 24 May 2006 00:35 GMT
Hi mike,

First, well done for 'hanging on-in' with your attempt to boot into Safe
Mode - it paid off <g>

> 1. How to get scanreg to work- this would be perfect.

> If scanreg works, it would be IDEAL, it saved
> me in W98. But AFAIK it does not apply to ME.

It's saved a lot of people!! <bg> and, it DOES also apply to WinMe

> Sure enough, I typed exactly as you noted, but
> I get  "bad command or file name".

Mmm .. maybe.. - are you using a WinMe Startup floppy or a Win98 floppy? A
WinMe floppy has the path to the scanreg.exe file 'built-in' to
autoexec.bat, whereas you have to state/define the path yourself, if you use
a Win98 floppy. The path is C:\windows\command

BTW - seeing that you can now boot (successfully) into Safe Mode, you can
run scanreg /restore from the Run command box on the Start Menu - although I
prefer to do it using the WinMe floppy.

> 2. In safe mode, if System Restore
> is N/A, advice?

Maybe several reasons - but I strongly recommend that you visit Noel's site
:-
http://www.crashfixpc.com/quiktipsr.htm

Good luck

Mart

>> You've tried the 'Official' MS method of holding down or 'stabbing at'
>> the Ctrl or the F8 keys, BUT you do need to do this IMMEDIATELY you
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>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
 
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