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KRBland - 26 Apr 2004 21:24 GMT
Among the many processes listed on my Startup List there are four different
pairs that are first checked "on" and a little lower down the list the same
process names appear unchecked.  I don't understand it nor do I know how
they got that way or even it it's incorrect.  Shouldn't there be some
consistency here?

Thanks

Ken Bland
Noel Paton - 26 Apr 2004 21:48 GMT
Ken
The fact that they're both 'checked' and 'unchecked' is nothing to be
concerned about, as such - it does however indicate that using MSCONFIG is
not the best way to disable them.

The reason for their appearance is simple - there's something that's
re-enabling them (I have the same problem with Realschd.exe, here).
You need to establish what's enabling them, and then use any options within
that program's preferences that will turn them off permanently
(unfortunately for me, I can't find any such option, except uninstalling
AOL - which would be a major PITA).

What particular programs are we talking about, here?

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> Among the many processes listed on my Startup List there are four different
> pairs that are first checked "on" and a little lower down the list the same
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> Ken Bland
KRBland - 27 Apr 2004 16:09 GMT
Thanks for your prompt response, Noel.

In answer to your question about the processes themselves, there are four,
appearing in this order and assuming they are executed in this order:

Cookie Pal (a cookie examiner; first on, then off)
Quick Time Task (first on, then off)
SchedulingAgent (first on, then off)
ScriptBlocking (first on, then off)

Ken Bland

> Ken
> The fact that they're both 'checked' and 'unchecked' is nothing to be
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> > Ken Bland
Noel Paton - 27 Apr 2004 20:11 GMT
ScriptBlocking is, I suspect, from Norton?? - you may want to reconsider
your choice of AV!

I've never used CookiePal - I personally don't see the need, with the
abilities built into IE6SP1

QuickTime Task - Use the Preferences in QT to set what you need/want - then
either check, or uncheck the appropriate entry in MSCONFIG - you'll end up
with a single entry.

SchedulingAgent..... could be a number of things  - what's the executable's
path/name??
.
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> Thanks for your prompt response, Noel.
>
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> > > Ken Bland
KRBland - 28 Apr 2004 21:24 GMT
Thanks again Noel.  Here's what I've found so far.

> ScriptBlocking is, I suspect, from Norton?? - you may want to reconsider
> your choice of AV!

No offense, Noel, but I know your feelings toward Norton, no doubt justified
in your experience, but NAV Systemworks 2004 has never given me any trouble
whatever.  Yes, ScriptBlocking is part of NAV and Pacman's Portal tells me
to keep it in and activated.  Here's the excerpt:

Update to Norton AntiVirus 2001. Detects certain types of script-based
viruses without the need for specific virus definitions - such as JavaScript
and VBScript. This will help protect you from these viruses even before
virus definitions are available. Note - some users complain of problems once
the update is installed

> I've never used CookiePal - I personally don't see the need, with the
> abilities built into IE6SP1

CookiePal is an excellent and trustworthy little program that gives me all
kinds of options and control over what's accepted and rejected.  I love it
(and besides, I paid $15 for it.)  It predates IE6SP1 by a couple of years.

> QuickTime Task - Use the Preferences in QT to set what you need/want - then
> either check, or uncheck the appropriate entry in MSCONFIG - you'll end up
> with a single entry.

Okay, I can handle this one.  I don't know how often or how much I need
QuickTime, but it seems that once in a while someone sends me something that
requires it.

> SchedulingAgent..... could be a number of things  - what's the executable's
> path/name??

SchedulingAgent: mstask.exe.  Pacman's Portal tells me that I don't need it
at all for the way I have things configured.  Here's the excerpt:

MS Scheduling Agent displayed as a box with a stopwatch in the System Tray
that is only needed if you have regular scheduled disk defragmenting,
ScanDisk, etc. Required if you have regularily scheduled events such as
weekly virus scans
> .

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Ken Bland
Noel Paton - 28 Apr 2004 21:45 GMT
Sounds reasonable to me - except for Norton!<g> - even diehard Norton fans
have come to realise that Symantec orphaned off ME back in 2001, and will
NOT provide either proper support, or proper applications for it. Many are
flocking away. YMMV, obviously.

If the choice is a flakey ME, or no Norton - there's only one way to go,
IMHO - and only one company to blame! Every other AV provider can do it -
why can't Symantec?

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> Thanks again Noel.  Here's what I've found so far.
>
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>
> Ken Bland
Jack E Martinelli - 29 Apr 2004 16:23 GMT
Here is a little Symantec NAV jewel from my recent troubleshooting:

Norton tries to connect on startup
Norton Antivirus 2004 keeps trying to dial my ISP, how do I stop it?
http://www.pcanswers.co.uk/tips/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=29022&subsect
ionid=616

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The Virus Bulletin
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/

ICSA Labs - TrueSecure Corp.
http://www.icsalabs.com/html/communities/antivirus/certifiedproducts.shtml

AV-Test
http://www.av-test.org/

University of Hamburg Computer Science Dept.
http://agn-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/vtc

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> Sounds reasonable to me - except for Norton!<g> - even diehard Norton fans
> have come to realise that Symantec orphaned off ME back in 2001, and will
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> > Ken Bland
 
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