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Windows Forum / Windows Me / System Tools / March 2005Totally Remove Items from Startup List in MSCONFIG?
For months now I've been struggling with what is supposed to be my best computer, a Dell Dimension 4100, running Windows ME (with 256 MB of RAM and a 40 GB hard drive with more than half the space free). System resources drain away so fast that I must restart the machine multiple times every day to get them back. I run exactly the same programs that I run on this desktop (McAfee VirusScan, MS Outlook 2000, Netscape 7.1 [two windows], MS Word 2000, Verizon DSL, devldr16.exe, and an occasional Quicken 2000 and/or SuperLex French-English dictionary) on my little Compaq laptop with half the RAM and almost one-tenth the hard drive space, and the laptop never needs to be restarted. I should perhaps mention that the laptop runs on Windows 98SE rather than Windows Me. I have disabled everything in MSCONFIG>Startup except for ScanRegistry, SystemTray, WinPoet, EM_EXEC, McAfeeVirusScanService, Resource Meter.exe, and TCLOCKEX.EXE. When I went to Dell Technical Support for help, they put me through a series of maneuvers the result of which were that my system tray was so full of startup icons that it took up practically the whole taskbar. In other words, after Dell's idea of a solution, I had even more resource-draining programs running than I'd had before their no doubt well-intentioned but not very helpful assistance. I then went to the pacs-portal startup site and tried to follow their two-step instructions to remove devldr16.exe, because I don't use any DOS programs at all on this machine, but the "Creative SB Live 16 Emulation" device that I was supposed to be able to find on the Control Panel was nowhere to be found. So I'm at my wits' end, wondering if I should try uninstalling Windows Me from the desktop and putting Windows 98SE on there instead. My laptop uses a dialup Internet connection, so I would have to be sure that Windows 98 was compatible with my DSL software, WinPOET. Many thanks for any and all good suggestions! Joan > I have disabled everything in MSCONFIG>Startup except for > ScanRegistry, SystemTray, WinPoet, EM_EXEC, McAfeeVirusScanService, > Resource Meter.exe, and TCLOCKEX.EXE. > > Joan Try disabling completely TClockEx ..... that worked for me on WinME.  Signatureaardvark (ard'-vark) a controversial animal with a long probing nose used for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. Hmm. I'll try it and let you know what happens. Thanks. Joan > > I have disabled everything in MSCONFIG>Startup except for > > ScanRegistry, SystemTray, WinPoet, EM_EXEC, McAfeeVirusScanService, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > aardvark (ard'-vark) a controversial animal with a long probing nose used > for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. I disabled TCLOCKEX.EXE in the startup folder under MSCONFIG. It hasn't been long enough to tell yet whether or not that change will solve the problem I've been having, but I did notice one odd thing. Usually on startup, Resource Meter shows me the following profile: System: 90% User: 90% GDI: 95% After disabling TCLOCKEX.EXE, those figures were 89% 89% and 95%! What sense does that make? Joan > > I have disabled everything in MSCONFIG>Startup except for > > ScanRegistry, SystemTray, WinPoet, EM_EXEC, McAfeeVirusScanService, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > aardvark (ard'-vark) a controversial animal with a long probing nose used > for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. Unfortunately, the disabling of TCLOCKEX.EXE does not seem to have improved the performance of my system. I still have to shut down and restart several times a day to retrieve lost resources. Is there anything else I might try? Thanks! Joan > > I have disabled everything in MSCONFIG>Startup except for > > ScanRegistry, SystemTray, WinPoet, EM_EXEC, McAfeeVirusScanService, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > aardvark (ard'-vark) a controversial animal with a long probing nose used > for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. You may have a virus/spyware hijack download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that A-V-disabling viruses are not present on your PC http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/stinger.exe - update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files. Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the CoolWebSearch hijacker. http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html Use CWShredder, the removal tool: http://www.merijn.org/files/cwshredder.zip http://www.merijn.org/files/CWShredder.exe http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads/tools/CWShredder.exe http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip download AdAware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Unfortunately, the disabling of TCLOCKEX.EXE does not seem to have > improved [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> aardvark (ard'-vark) a controversial animal with a long probing nose used >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. Thank you, Noel. I will do all these things and report back! Joan > You may have a virus/spyware hijack > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >> aardvark (ard'-vark) a controversial animal with a long probing nose used > >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. I have completed both the Stinger scan and the full system scan using McAfee antivirus. No infected files were found by either one. Every time I've tried to go to http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html, I get the message "The connection was refused when attempting to contact www.merign.org. Is there something I can do to get around this? Joan > You may have a virus/spyware hijack > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >> aardvark (ard'-vark) a controversial animal with a long probing nose used > >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. >I have completed both the Stinger scan and the full system scan using >McAfee [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Is there something I can do to get around this? I don't know (yet). But being unable to get to www.merign.org is a good thing in itself. If you ever do get there, don't believe a word it says! btw it is nothing to do with merijn (note the difference in spelling. merign.org would appear to be trying to pass itself off as trustworthy by adopting a very similar name). Shane > Joan > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > used >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. Oops, the second instance of the URL I referred to correctly (i.e., www.merijn.org) the first time was misspelled. I didn't misspell it when I typed it in the address field of my Internet browser. Thanks for the tip, though. Joan > >I have completed both the Stinger scan and the full system scan using > >McAfee [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > used > >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. try the alternative sites in the original post.... SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Oops, the second instance of the URL I referred to correctly (i.e., > www.merijn.org) the first time was misspelled. I didn't misspell it when I [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] >> > used >> >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. I have now done all the scans. Neither Stinger nor the full, up-to-date McAfee scan of my system found any infected files. Ad-Aware found and quarantined 115 items, most of them cookies. Regrettably, however, there has been no improvement in the performance of this system. Resources continue to drain away, and I continue to restart the machine. I also tried using System Restore, thinking that perhaps that might help. I tried between ten and fifteen different restore points in March, April, and May. Every one of them failed, bringing up a screen that said something like "System Restore was unsuccessful. No changes have been made to your computer." I have 27.2 out or 40 GB of free space on my (unpartitioned) hard drive. As I mentioned in my original post, my older, smaller laptop, running Windows 98SE instead of Windows Me, has no performance problems when I run the exact same programs that I run on the desktop. Would it make sense for me to uninstall Windows Me from the PC and install Windows 98SE in its place? Thanks. Joan > try the alternative sites in the original post.... > [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] > >> > used > >> >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion. All I can say is that if you don't discover the cause of the problem, then the chances are that you'll end up with the same problem in Win 98 - or whatever other OS you install. Have you managed to run CWShredder yet? What did it find? It's time to bring out the big guns, I think....look here for the instructions for the next stage - http://forum.aumha.org/viewtopic.php?t=4075 - read. learn and inwardly digest that, then follow the instructions, and post the resulting log to the forum for analysis. Good Luck! SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's >I have now done all the scans. Neither Stinger nor the full, up-to-date > McAfee scan of my system found any infected files. Ad-Aware found and [quoted text clipped - 139 lines] >> >> >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and > discussion. Sorry. Yes, I did run CWShredder, and that, too, found no infected files. I was not able to update the version I got when I downloaded it, however. It was version 1.59.0.1 Thanks for the instructions re "the next stage"! Joan > All I can say is that if you don't discover the cause of the problem, then > the chances are that you'll end up with the same problem in Win 98 - or [quoted text clipped - 164 lines] > >> >> >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and > > discussion. I just clicked on the link you gave me in this post, only to discover that my primary Internet browser, netscape.exe, along with the shortcut to it that has been on my Quick Launch toolbar on the Windows taskbar for months if not years, has disappeared since the last time I was on the computer, a few hours ago. Have you ever heard of such a thing? > All I can say is that if you don't discover the cause of the problem, then > the chances are that you'll end up with the same problem in Win 98 - or [quoted text clipped - 164 lines] > >> >> >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and > > discussion. That sounds like you may have had a registry failure, and the system restored back to the latest available working backup...... Look in the C:\Windows\Sysbckup folder You should have 5 or so files in there, - 5 will be named rb000.cab to rb004.cab. What's the dates on them? They should in theory be the last 5 days in which you booted the computer - if any different, then you may be having registry problems - are you getting error messages at startup? Such registry problems could be caused either by overzealous attempts at cleaning the registry, or by hardware problems (most likely the RAM sticks) - or something else entirely<g>. Download DocMemory2 from www.simmtester.com, create the boot disk, and run it overnight to see what it reports. Try running SCANDISK /FIX from a command prompt (windows will reboot) - and see if that helps your symptoms. Does Netscape still exist in Add/Remove Programs? (did you or someone else remove it in an attempt to fix your problems?) - Think about reinstalling it (preferably the same version, if you have the install disks handy) SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's >I just clicked on the link you gave me in this post, only to discover that > my primary Internet browser, netscape.exe, along with the shortcut to it [quoted text clipped - 185 lines] >> >> >> >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and >> > discussion. I've been over at the HijackThis forum, following the trail you suggested in your previous message. I also downloaded and installed Netscape 7.2 last night so I could use it to go there! I had not removed it from the computer, and no one else uses this computer (except perhaps an as yet unidentified hijacker :-). The person who checked my HijackThis Log--I'm DrJackie--didn't see anything unusual in it, however). In the C:\Windows\Sysbckup folder, I have rb000.cab files dated 9/24/04, 9/25/04, 9/26/04, 9/27/04, and 9/28/04 (not in that order). No, no error messages at startup. I will try your suggestions tonight. Thanks. Joan > That sounds like you may have had a registry failure, and the system > restored back to the latest available working backup...... [quoted text clipped - 214 lines] > >> >> >> >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and > >> > discussion. And now, as if things were not weird enough already, I can no longer save anything to the CD-RW on which I back up all files in drive E. "The specified device is not accessible" or some such nonsense! The actual CD has 38.4 MB of used space and 496 MB of free space. Plus, when I try to use Windows Explorer to check out the situation on that disk, it takes FOREVER to react to clicks and double-clicks. Joan > I've been over at the HijackThis forum, following the trail you suggested in > your previous message. I also downloaded and installed Netscape 7.2 last [quoted text clipped - 252 lines] > > >> >> >> >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and > > >> > discussion. This begins to sound familiar...... Have you at ANY time reinstalled ME over itself? Reboot to Safe Mode - open Device Manager Make a list of the duplicated devices - there should be none outside of the System Devices branch (and only a couple within it!) If duplicated devices exist, the Remove ALL instances of them, and reboot to Normal mode - Windows will reinstall required drivers. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > And now, as if things were not weird enough already, I can no longer save > anything to the CD-RW on which I back up all files in drive E. "The [quoted text clipped - 297 lines] >> > >> >> >> >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and >> > >> > discussion. Yes, I realized the other day that I did indeed reinstall Windows Me once. I don't think it was "over itself." I did what Dell told me to do, and it involved stripping all my own files off the computer. I will take the steps you list below and report back. Joan > This begins to sound familiar...... > [quoted text clipped - 316 lines] > >> > >> >> >> >> >> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and > >> > >> > discussion. If that's the case, then you may have a case of 'version soup' - post back with the results of my earlier suggestions, and I'll take you to the next step (hopefully checking for soup before getting too drastic!<g>) SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Yes, I realized the other day that I did indeed reinstall Windows Me once. > I [quoted text clipped - 362 lines] >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> > >> > discussion. Noel, Joan has quite definitely at some time reinstalled Win Me over itself. For evidence of this see the thread "Belarc-Recommended Update Nowhere to Be Found" in this newsgroup. SignatureMike > If that's the case, then you may have a case of 'version soup' - post > back with the results of my earlier suggestions, and I'll take you to > the next step (hopefully checking for soup before getting too > drastic!<g>) I did all the scans you suggested earlier, and everything came back clean. I've just finished the safe boot and checking the Device Manager. I removed two instances of Kodak DX6440 Digital Camera and two instances of Microsoft Streaming Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter. I also found 8 instances ofACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering under System Devices but didn't dare to remove that many system-related devices. Should I? Joan > If that's the case, then you may have a case of 'version soup' - post back > with the results of my earlier suggestions, and I'll take you to the next [quoted text clipped - 294 lines] > >> >> > >> >> > A-V-disabling > >> >> > >> >> >> >> viruses are not present on your PC http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/stinger.exe > >> >> > >> >> >> >> - update your virus scanner and run a full system scan > >> >> > >> >> >> >> of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >> >> > >> >> >> >> http://www.merijn.org/files/cwshredder.zip > >> >> > >> >> >> >> http://www.merijn.org/files/CWShredder.exe http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads/tools/CWShredder.exe > >> >> > >> >> >> >> http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip > >> >> > >> >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> and > >> >> > >> > discussion. When I go to System Tools>System Information>Components>Problem Devices, I find: ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering ACPI\*PNP0C0F\00000003 22 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering ACPI\*PNP0C0F\00000005 22 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering ACPI\*PNP0C0F\00000007 22 As I said in my previous post, there are 8 instances of ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering listed in the Device Manager. > I did all the scans you suggested earlier, and everything came back clean. > [quoted text clipped - 418 lines] > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> and > > >> >> > >> > discussion. Joan, Forget about these entries none of which is likely to be the cause of any problem. There is nothing to correct. Error Code 22: See MS KB 272291 - "ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering" Problem Device Entry in System Information Tool" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=272291) where you will find it stated that what you are seeing is "by design". Such entries are often the result of having changed the layout of your PCI cards or following the removal of a card. Forget about this "error" as it is unlikely to have an effect and is simply indicating that the place holder previously used is no longer required. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP mcmaltby@hotmail.com > When I go to System Tools>System Information>Components>Problem > Devices, I find: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > As I said in my previous post, there are 8 instances of ACPI IRQ > Holder for PCI IRQ Steering listed in the Device Manager. Thanks, Mike. So why, since my PC seems to have passed every virus, parasite, adware, spyware, etc. test known to man, do I still have to start my computer several times a day to retrieve lost resources? And why won't system restore work? Joan > Joan, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > As I said in my previous post, there are 8 instances of ACPI IRQ > > Holder for PCI IRQ Steering listed in the Device Manager. > Thanks, Mike. So why, since my PC seems to have passed every virus, > parasite, adware, spyware, etc. test known to man, Has it? I wouldn't know. > do I still have to > start my computer several times a day to retrieve lost resources? Because you are launching application that are consuming resources? Use of a process viewer such as WinTop (part of the Win95 Powertools available from http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/contents/WUToys/W95KernelToy/Default.asp) or SysInternals Process Explorer (www.sysinternals.com) might help you identify the cause of your problems or even just looking at what is running using System Information | Software Environment | Running Tasks. > And why won't system restore work? I haven't a clue since I don't know what problem you are having with system restore. What I do know is that at some stage you reinstalled Win Me over itself and that in itself is a recipe for many a disaster after which all bets are off. SignatureMike Maltby MS-MVP [2001-2004] mcmaltby@hotmail.com > Thanks, Mike. So why, since my PC seems to have passed every virus, > parasite, adware, spyware, etc. test known to man, do I still have to > start my computer several times a day to retrieve lost resources? And > why won't system restore work? Yes, I did indeed remember eventually that I had reinstalled Windows Me back a ways, meticulously following the instructions of the company, Dell, that manufactured my PC. I realize that Windows 98 and Windows Me limit the amount of resources that are devoted to running system processes. It doesn't make sense to me that a desktop PC with twice the RAM and many times more free hard drive space cannot stably run the exact same programs that I run all day long with no problem on my little five-year-old laptop without needing to be restarted multiple times every day to get its resources back. The PC runs on Windows Me, and the laptop on Windows 98 SE. I am not a technical expert by any means, but I am not entirely moronic, either. And I definitely don't understand why your message is so full of sarcasm. In any event, it's not at all helpful. Joan > > Thanks, Mike. So why, since my PC seems to have passed every virus, > > parasite, adware, spyware, etc. test known to man, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > of a process viewer such as WinTop (part of the Win95 Powertools available > from http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/contents/WUToys/W95KernelToy/De fault.asp) > or SysInternals Process Explorer (www.sysinternals.com) might help you > identify the cause of your problems or even just looking at what is [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > start my computer several times a day to retrieve lost resources? And > > why won't system restore work? RAM and Hard Disk space have nothing to do with system resources. You can throw RAM and hard disks at your system and it will do nothing to help with system resources since this refers to two 64KB stacks used for 16 bit pointers and their size is fixed and cannot be increased. Win Me or Win 96SE the resource stacks are the same. As for your reading my message as being sarcastic then that perhaps tells me something about your attitude as their was no sarcasm intended in my message. As I said I have no way whatsoever in knowing whether your system is free of malware and as for your system restore problems I haven't a clue as I don't recall personally having seen a single message from you on that subject but obviously could be mistaken. That doesn't mean that you don't have problems but rather that I have not a clue as to what those might be. SignatureMike Maltby MS-MVP [2001-2004] mcmaltby@hotmail.com > Yes, I did indeed remember eventually that I had reinstalled Windows > Me back a ways, meticulously following the instructions of the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > moronic, either. And I definitely don't understand why your message > is so full of sarcasm. In any event, it's not at all helpful. I suspect that the problem with System Restore is related to the following statement..... "I have disabled everything in MSCONFIG>Startup except for ScanRegistry, SystemTray, WinPoet, EM_EXEC, McAfeeVirusScanService, Resource Meter.exe, and TCLOCKEX.EXE." You need to re-enable the "*Statemgr" entry to have any chance of getting SR to work. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > RAM and Hard Disk space have nothing to do with system resources. You can > throw RAM and hard disks at your system and it will do nothing to help [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> moronic, either. And I definitely don't understand why your message >> is so full of sarcasm. In any event, it's not at all helpful. Thanks Noel. It would have helped if Joan had said what her problem was with system restore but that statement explains a lot. :-) Cheers, SignatureMike > I suspect that the problem with System Restore is related to the > following statement..... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You need to re-enable the "*Statemgr" entry to have any chance of > getting SR to work. Do I not understand how this newsgroup works? I explained in my message of 2:46 p.m. on September 27, 2004, at 2:46 p.m. the problems I was having with System Restore. Should I be pasting into every new post the things I've said in every previous post? > Thanks Noel. It would have helped if Joan had said what her problem was > with system restore but that statement explains a lot. :-) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > You need to re-enable the "*Statemgr" entry to have any chance of > > getting SR to work. No you clearly don't understand how this newsgroup works. Why you should expect me to go back through every message in this newsgroup to see something that you might or might not have written in the past escapes me but then again my mind clearly works in a different way to your own as we are two different individuals. I posted a response to a query about Code 22 errors (IRQ Holder for PCI RQ Steering) in the Device Manager to which you responded.. > And why won't system restore work? to which I made the honest reply > I haven't a clue since I don't know what problem you are having > with system restore. Don't bother replying as I now have no wish or intention to try and help you further. SignatureMike Maltby MS-MVP [2001-2004] mcmaltby@hotmail.com > Do I not understand how this newsgroup works? I explained in my > message of 2:46 p.m. on September 27, 2004, at 2:46 p.m. the problems > I was having with System Restore. Should I be pasting into every new > post the things I've said in every previous post? Ahhhh . . . Okay. I will do that. Thanks. Joan > I suspect that the problem with System Restore is related to the following > statement..... [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >> moronic, either. And I definitely don't understand why your message > >> is so full of sarcasm. In any event, it's not at all helpful. Many thanks for all your help. Things seem to be functioning better today, perhaps because of all the scans that you suggested I perform. The readings and suggestions on the AUMHA site were helpful, too. All best, Joan > I suspect that the problem with System Restore is related to the following > statement..... [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >> moronic, either. And I definitely don't understand why your message > >> is so full of sarcasm. In any event, it's not at all helpful. Glad to hear it - go back to Aumha, and use the resources there (they're really good guys, who know a heck of a lot more about this sort of sh%t than I ever will!) SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Many thanks for all your help. Things seem to be functioning better today, > perhaps because of all the scans that you suggested I perform. The [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >> >> moronic, either. And I definitely don't understand why your message >> >> is so full of sarcasm. In any event, it's not at all helpful. On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:19:58 GMT, "A Baffled User" >Thanks, Mike. So why, since my PC seems to have passed every virus, >parasite, adware, spyware, etc. test known to man, do I still have to start >my computer several times a day to retrieve lost resources? See http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/bthink.htm Hardware issues will never go away no matter how many times you "just re-install Windows" etc. so start by excluding those. Then do a *formal* av scan. All those Windows-based scans are worthless if you are trying to exclude malware, because the malware will be running when these scans try to startup and run. They'd only be allowed to operate and clean the malware if the malware writer failed to take steps to prevent this (or kill your PC in retaliation). Presuming on mercy of malware writers is a poor stragey. Then exclude commercial malware in the usual way, and then check out what software you are running underfoot. Several apps (including most web browsers) behave badly when it comes to resource heap leaks, so that it's often necessary to shutdown and restart Win9x daily. Make sure you always shutdown properly, so that you never see the automatic Scandisk "fixing" the file system. Else expect "bit rot". >And why won't system restore work? SR is dead out of the box, unless it has a particular patch that enables it to work with current and future dates. If you have to use SR often, then you're taking excessive risks with your PC and can expect things to go pear-shaped in a while. >-------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, does not go away (PKD) >-------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - Many thanks, cquirk. I will follow up tomorrow morning. Things are better now, but I need to find out everything I can! All best, Joan > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:19:58 GMT, "A Baffled User" > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > in it, does not go away (PKD) > >-------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - > For months now I've been struggling with what is supposed to be my best > computer, a Dell Dimension 4100, running Windows ME (with 256 MB of RAM and [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Joan >>For months now I've been struggling with what is supposed to be my best >>computer, a Dell Dimension 4100, running Windows ME (with 256 MB of RAM and >>a 40 GB hard drive with more than half the space free). System resources >>drain away so fast that I must restart the machine multiple times every day >>to get them back. Are you restarting the machine just because the Resource Meter says you're out of resources ? The RM isn't a really good tool, "resources" refers to legacy DOS tags and WinME will naturally take up as much room as memory allows for. Is there a performance problem ? >>I run exactly the same programs that I run on this desktop (McAfee >>VirusScan, MS Outlook 2000, Netscape 7.1 [two windows], MS Word 2000, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>device that I was supposed to be able to find on the Control Panel was >>nowhere to be found. You can get rid of that one by removing your current drivers and reinstalling the older-model set from the Creative CD (don't install the WDM choose the other set which name I can't recall). rpl >>So I'm at my wits' end, wondering if I should try uninstalling Windows Me >>from the desktop and putting Windows 98SE on there instead. My laptop uses a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >>Joan ">The RM isn't a really good tool, "resources" > refers to legacy DOS tags and WinME will naturally take up as much room > as memory allows for." I do NOT concur, with this perception of Win9x "System Resources": http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/resource.htm Jack E. Martinelli MS MVP for Win9X / XP Shell/User ------ > >>For months now I've been struggling with what is supposed to be my best > >>computer, a Dell Dimension 4100, running Windows ME (with 256 MB of RAM and [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >> > >>Joan As much as I appreciate the attempt at diplomacy, Tim...er Jack, "Wot? yer a bloody idiot!!!" works just as well, too. Try again, then The "System Resources" that are limited and can cause problems are the ones that are for 16-bit backwards compatibility with programs that were written for Windows 3.1 and early Windows95. Rick better? :) Timothy Martinelli wrote: > ">The RM isn't a really good tool, "resources" > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Jack E. Martinelli MS MVP for Win9X / XP Shell/User > ------ Since my attempt to aid you has utterly failed, I will now redirect your attention again to another MVP and his FAQ on this issue: http://www.aumha.org/a/resource.htm P.S. I was previously posting from my brother's machine in another state, so, please, do not attack him, also. I have no further comment. SignatureJack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ > As much as I appreciate the attempt at diplomacy, Tim...er Jack, "Wot? > yer a bloody idiot!!!" works just as well, too. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Jack E. Martinelli MS MVP for Win9X / XP Shell/User > > ------ > Since my attempt to aid you has utterly failed, I will now redirect your > attention again to another MVP and his FAQ on this issue: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I have no further comment. ?? mebbe you should remove the bee from your bonnet there, I wasn't trying to insult/attack you or your brother. |
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