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TJT - 05 Mar 2005 16:37 GMT
When I try to create a restore point, I type in a name, hit the next button
and get the following popup window:

title:  Internet Explorer Script Error
An error has occured in the script on this page
Line: 63
Char: 5
Error:  Object doesn't support this property or method
Code: 0
URL: res://rstrui.exe/SRUI-ConfRP.htm

Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?

Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tim
Galen - 08 Mar 2005 08:29 GMT
> Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Tim

Crack open IE, click tools, click options, click advanced, find and disable
script debugging other and Internet Explorer. If display a notification
about every script error is enabled disable that. Just an idea of course but
worth a shot.

Galen
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Noel Paton - 08 Mar 2005 20:55 GMT
.... and if that doesn't do the trick, then you need to look further afield
for a solution - If you are also having problems with Help&Support, then
start here...
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/HSfails.htm

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>> Any ideas?
>> Thanks,
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>
> Galen
TJT - 09 Mar 2005 03:09 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions.  Already had script debugging disabled so wasn't
able to use the suggestion.  Help and Support site opens fine, can navigate
among topics fine.  System Restore Wizard first screen works.  However, if I
choose Restore computer to earlier time, the next page has current month
calendar but no restore point choices.  Plus the scroll arrows atop the
calendar don't do anything.  If I choose Create a restore point, provide a
label, I'll get the hour glass for about 8 seconds and I can see the disk
working but then I get confirm New Restore Point window with the IE Script
Error window in it and the buttons at the bottom don't do anything whether I
choose Yes or No to continue running scripts on this page.  Noel, can you
expand on "look further afield "
Thanks again,
Tim

> .... and if that doesn't do the trick, then you need to look further afield
> for a solution - If you are also having problems with Help&Support, then
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> >
> > Galen
Noel Paton - 09 Mar 2005 06:03 GMT
Try this
At a command prompt (in a DOS  window), type the following commands,
pressing ENTER after each command:
cd system

cd restore

rstrui.exe   /makefirstrestorepoint

Close the DOS window, and reboot
now open System Restore and see if it has created a Restore point.

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> Thanks for the suggestions.  Already had script debugging disabled so
> wasn't
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>> >
>> > Galen
TJT - 10 Mar 2005 05:01 GMT
Tried this with no luck.  No restore points available.  Hard disk is shown
as having ~10G available space so disk space shouldn't be preventing this.
Is there somewhere I can go for a listing of files used by this application
that I could then check/verify they exist on my drive?  Thanks, Tim

> rstrui.exe   /makefirstrestorepoint
>
> Close the DOS window, and reboot
> now open System Restore and see if it has created a Restore point.
Noel Paton - 10 Mar 2005 06:30 GMT
Did you get any error messages when you ran the 'fix'? - If not, then you
probably don't have a file problem.

Are you running GoBack??

Are you running any registry cleaners and/or startup cleaners???

Look in MSCONFIG at the Startup listing - is *Statemgr checked (it should
be)?

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> Tried this with no luck.  No restore points available.  Hard disk is shown
> as having ~10G available space so disk space shouldn't be preventing this.
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>> Close the DOS window, and reboot
>> now open System Restore and see if it has created a Restore point.
TJT - 11 Mar 2005 03:48 GMT
Where and what name would the restore points be in the file system if for
some reason they were being created but not reported?

> Did you get any error messages when you ran the 'fix'? - If not, then you
> probably don't have a file problem.

I did not have any errors in the DOS cmd window.  On the first restart I did
get an error but did not capture the HEX code.  I've rerun this and have not
gotten the error to reoccur on subsequent restarts.

> Are you running GoBack??

Not that I'm aware of.

> Are you running any registry cleaners and/or startup cleaners???

scanregw, PC Health, REGSHAVE (no idea what this or a bunch of the other
checked startup items are.  I did save AltPrtScrn of the MSCONFIG startup in
word doc)

> Look in MSCONFIG at the Startup listing - is *Statemgr checked (it should
> be)?

*Statemgr is checked
Noel Paton - 11 Mar 2005 06:37 GMT
Open Windows Explorer
Go to Tools|Folder Options
Click on the View tab
Uncheck 'Hide file extensions...'
Check 'Show Hidden Files and folders'
Uncheck 'Hide protected operating.....'

Click OK - and then navigate to the C:\_Restore folder
r-click on the folder icon, and select 'Properties'
how many files and folders are reported?
What is the 'Size on disk'?

r-click on the c: drive icon - seelct Properties
How much free space is reported?
What's the drive capacity?

How

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> Where and what name would the restore points be in the file system if for
> some reason they were being created but not reported?
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>
> *Statemgr is checked
TJT - 12 Mar 2005 03:03 GMT
Thanks Noel.  Here's the info

> how many files and folders are reported?

_Retstore Properties:
12,619Files, 5 Folders

> What is the 'Size on disk'?

9.38GB

> r-click on the c: drive icon - seelct Properties
> How much free space is reported?

9.59GB

> What's the drive capacity?

37.2GB
Noel Paton - 12 Mar 2005 07:06 GMT
AH - there's the clue.
The maximum normal size of System Restore is 12% of the C: drive capacity -
and yours is running at over 20% - so the archive has gotten busted somehow
(are you running Norton?)

To correct this, you'll have to clear the SR archive manually from DOS

Boot to DOS, using your Startup Disk (if you don't have one and can't make
one from Start | Add/Remove Programs, then download a diskmaker from
www.bootdisk.com, and create the floppy by running the file)

At the A:\> prompt, type the following commands (followed by [return])

ATTRIB -S -R -H C:\_RESTORE

REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST

When the A:\> prompt returns, remove the floppy, and reboot the PC. The
Control Files will be rebuilt, and a Restore point should be created.

Then delete the C:\OLDREST folder, and reboot again.

Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder to your personal
preference - I'd say around 600MB (one notch up from the minimum setting)

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> Thanks Noel.  Here's the info
>
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>
> 37.2GB
TJT - 12 Mar 2005 15:59 GMT
Renamed _RESTORE and rebooted and SR created and displays a restore point.
I also ran a manual create point that finished but did not show up in the
available restore points list.  Is that because it is same as the automatic
one just created (except for name)?   Anyway auto creation seems to be
working again.  THANKS!

Just curious, during this exercise found that MSCONFIG is using selective
startup.  Is that typical?

I am running Norton AV.  Also running Ad-Aware, and I know this had found
items in the archive and I had it remove them.  Is that possibly an issue?

Tim

> AH - there's the clue.
> The maximum normal size of System Restore is 12% of the C: drive capacity -
> and yours is running at over 20% - so the archive has gotten busted somehow
> (are you running Norton?)
Noel Paton - 12 Mar 2005 21:49 GMT
It's unlikely that Ad-Aware caused the problems - but Norton is a known
SR-killer, (probably as revenge for the fact that SR exposes the weaknesses
in Norton's use of the registry for storing definitions data <g>)

NO version of NAV works properly in ME - and none ever will, now.
ALL versions of NAV will break System Restore sooner or later, unless you're
very lucky (or very clever).

WRT Selective Startup - what are the unchecked items?. - it's quite common
to have a couple, if you've had to do some system
maintenance/troubleshooting at some time. The trick comes in remembering to
switch back on the things that you need:)

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> Renamed _RESTORE and rebooted and SR created and displays a restore point.
> I also ran a manual create point that finished but did not show up in the
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> somehow
>> (are you running Norton?)
TJT - 13 Mar 2005 18:06 GMT
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> WRT Selective Startup - what are the unchecked items?. -

They are all checked, so not sure this differs from a normal startup.
Noel Paton - 13 Mar 2005 18:55 GMT
If you're getting the Selective Startup warning on boot, then something HAS
to be unchecked (or modified)

what is it?

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>> WRT Selective Startup - what are the unchecked items?. -
>
> They are all checked, so not sure this differs from a normal startup.
TJT - 14 Mar 2005 00:11 GMT
Not getting a warning on boot.  When I ran MSCONFIG in debugging the SR
issue, I noticed that selective startup is checked with all of its subitems
checked.  Just curious if all of the subitems are checked, is this the same
as normal boot?
Thanks,
Tim

> If you're getting the Selective Startup warning on boot, then something HAS
> to be unchecked (or modified)
>
> what is it?
Noel Paton - 14 Mar 2005 07:07 GMT
Pretty much - I'd be tempted to put the checkmark back into Normal Boot and
see if anything changes.

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> Not getting a warning on boot.  When I ran MSCONFIG in debugging the SR
> issue, I noticed that selective startup is checked with all of its
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>>
>> what is it?
TJT - 16 Mar 2005 02:43 GMT
Diff in normal startup seems to be that some additional device drivers
startup that aren't regularly on, scanner, etc.  Thanks again.

> Pretty much - I'd be tempted to put the checkmark back into Normal Boot and
> see if anything changes.
Noel Paton - 16 Mar 2005 07:19 GMT
In that case, probably some of the VxD's weren't loading - are you sure that
all the subsidiary options were checked on the front page?

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> Diff in normal startup seems to be that some additional device drivers
> startup that aren't regularly on, scanner, etc.  Thanks again.
>
>> Pretty much - I'd be tempted to put the checkmark back into Normal Boot
> and
>> see if anything changes.
TJT - 08 May 2005 05:04 GMT
Apologies to all.  Trying to find original response to this where Noel was
able to determine that my restore files had exceeded file size (or something
like that) and by deleting/resizing was able to get system restore to create
restore points.  Recently updated NAV version and having same problem (I
suspect) but don't rember exact files involved in earlier solution and those
earlier posts are not showing up in my newsgroup browser anymore.
Thanks,
Tim

> Tried this with no luck.  No restore points available.  Hard disk is shown
> as having ~10G available space so disk space shouldn't be preventing this.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > Close the DOS window, and reboot
> > now open System Restore and see if it has created a Restore point.
Noel Paton - 08 May 2005 09:15 GMT
Well. your first mistake was in updating NAV, rather than replacing it with
something that works! (You just knew I was going to say that, didn't you?)

OK try a Reset of SR first
To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider
to your preferred setting.

Most people find that a setting of 200-300MB is sufficient to hold 10-15
days worth of restore points, unless you are doing a lot of
installs/uninstalls, or installing large applications (such as Office).

If that doesn't work, then try a manual clearance of the SR points
Boot to DOS, using your Startup Disk (if you don't have one and can't make
one from Start | Add/Remove Programs, then download a diskmaker from
www.bootdisk.com, and create the floppy by running the file)

At the A:\> prompt, type the following commands (followed by [return])

ATTRIB -S -R -H C:\_RESTORE

REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST

When the A:\> prompt returns, remove the floppy, and reboot the PC. The
Control Files will be rebuilt, and a Restore point should be created.

Then delete the C:\OLDREST folder, and reboot again.

Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder

See how that goes, and post back.

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> Apologies to all.  Trying to find original response to this where Noel was
> able to determine that my restore files had exceeded file size (or
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>> > Close the DOS window, and reboot
>> > now open System Restore and see if it has created a Restore point.
TJT - 08 May 2005 23:13 GMT
Thanks again Noel.  The disable, enable sequence worked.  For some reason
the Hard Disk size was bumped up to max again, even though I set it closer
to 300 MB after the last set of troubles with SR.   Could it be NAV ;-)  .
Free is not always as cheap as it seems.

> Well. your first mistake was in updating NAV, rather than replacing it with
> something that works! (You just knew I was going to say that, didn't you?)
Mike M - 08 May 2005 23:43 GMT
Resetting system restore always results in the space allocated being reset
to the maximum.  NAV isn't involved here at all.
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> Thanks again Noel.  The disable, enable sequence worked.  For some
> reason the Hard Disk size was bumped up to max again, even though I
> set it closer to 300 MB after the last set of troubles with SR.
> Could it be NAV ;-)  . Free is not always as cheap as it seems.
Joan Archer - 09 May 2005 11:14 GMT
<lol> That makes a change <g>
Joan

NAV isn't involved here at all.
Mike M - 09 May 2005 13:00 GMT
> <lol> That makes a change <g>

Indeed.  :-)
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