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How can I see hidden files (not hidden system files) and registry

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Chrispy - 17 Feb 2005 22:41 GMT
I just got my computer freed from a nasty Trojan.  During some of the disk
scans to clean my computer, I saw some directories and registry entries flash
across the screen that I didn't recognize.  I went to look for them, but they
don't come up in the directory listings or in the registry!  (I'm not talking
about hidden system files here.)  Is there a way to "make" Windows show me
everything?

I'm using Windows Me.  I'm not sure what version it is.

Thanks.

Chris
Mike M - 17 Feb 2005 22:48 GMT
Chris,

Control Panel | Folder Options | View and check "Show hidden files and
folders" and UNcheck "Hide protected operating system files"

This will display all files and folders other than a few special files in
the Refuse Bin and a few other places as well as certain files in the
Temporary Internet Files folder.
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> I just got my computer freed from a nasty Trojan.  During some of the
> disk scans to clean my computer, I saw some directories and registry
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> Chris
Chrispy - 17 Feb 2005 23:01 GMT
That's already checked (or unchecked, as the case may be).  Scanning with the
products I mentioned show the directories and registry entries.  Looking at
the directories listings doesn't.  (I can see the "hidden" files and
directories, but not these strange ones.)  Same with the registry entries -
they show up on the scan, but not when I use Regedit.

Chris

> Chris,
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Mike M - 17 Feb 2005 23:26 GMT
If I knew what your problem was I would try and help but as it is I'm
sorry but I don't really have a clue as to the actual problem you are
having.  For example what files can't you see when using Explorer?  Same
with the registry, I again don't know what the problem is you are having
there.  I'm sorry but you will have to try and explain what the problem is
you are having as it appears I'm being a bit dense today.  For example
what entries show up when doing what scan with what tool?
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> That's already checked (or unchecked, as the case may be).  Scanning
> with the products I mentioned show the directories and registry
> entries.  Looking at the directories listings doesn't.  (I can see
> the "hidden" files and directories, but not these strange ones.)
> Same with the registry entries - they show up on the scan, but not
> when I use Regedit.
Chrispy - 17 Feb 2005 23:47 GMT
Thanks for your patience, Mike.

On Tuesday, I clicked on a link in an e-mail message from an insurance
company that I thought was OK.  WRONG!  I got a Trojan called
"Downloader.Mediket" installed on my machine.  VERY nasty.  It installs
long-distance porn dialers on your machine, and will hijack your home page.  
(I don't do porn, by the way.)  Love that spam!

I scanned my computer with two programs, XoftSpy and NoAdWare to find where
the culprit was lodged on my computer.  During the XoftSpy scan of the
Registry, some porn-related names went flying by.  But when I go to look for
them to delete them, Regedit doesn't find them.

During the NoAdWare scan, a couple directories came flying by as well, at
least one Windows subdirectory, and another listed as %Program Files% (with
the percent signs).  But looking for these rascals with Explorer comes up
empty.

These situations can be reproduced at will with these two programs.

The Trojan's been disabled, but I'd like to get rid of the garbage it left
behind.

Thanks for your help.

Chris

> If I knew what your problem was I would try and help but as it is I'm
> sorry but I don't really have a clue as to the actual problem you are
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> > Same with the registry entries - they show up on the scan, but not
> > when I use Regedit.
Mike M - 18 Feb 2005 00:18 GMT
Neither NoAdware nor XoftSpy have much of a reputation as suitable tools
for such tasks.  In fact what reputation they have on the whole stinks.
You would be much better served sticking to more reputable products such
as AdAware, SpyBot Search & Destroy and PestPatrol.

If Regedit didn't find the entries then they aren't there and you are
seeing false positives, something for which both of the products you
mention are renowned, especially NoAdware.

%Program Files% is, by default, your C:\Program Files folder, in the same
way %WinDir% is the C:\Windows folder  and %winsys% the C:\Windows\System
folder.  Similarly %Temp% is by default C:\Windows\Temp, %CommonFiles% is
C:\Program Files\Common Files, %personaldocuments% what ever name you have
given the My Documents object (folder) and %internetcache% your Temporary
Internet cache, by default the C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files folder.
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> Thanks for your patience, Mike.
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> Thanks for your help.
Jack E Martinelli - 20 Feb 2005 21:20 GMT
Here is the best site I know for tracking bad choices in antiparasite
software:

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

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> > > Same with the registry entries - they show up on the scan, but not
> > > when I use Regedit.
 
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