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Lando - 20 Mar 2005 20:18 GMT
I've cleared about 100 entries in the registry with Jv16 this morning .Now
that I'm trying to clear the remaing 200
unused entries, JV16 does an endless search !
Could it have broken a chain of records ?
What is the best thing that I can do : restore the system to a preceding
check point ( but it is a week old and there are some install and uninstall
actions since then ) or  I 've read of a scanreg/restore ( what does it ? )
or  scanreg /fix  or something else ...?
Thanks a lot !
Mike M - 20 Mar 2005 20:33 GMT
SCANREG  /RESTORE which can either be run from a DOS prompt (either within
Win Me or after booting with a boot floppy) or by entering the string in
the Start | Run box and clicking OK will offer you five copies of the
registry to restore, one from each of the last five days on which the PC
was booted.  Doing this will restore the registry but nothing else (OK, it
also restores system.ini and win.ini but not files that have been added,
deleted or amended).

SCANREG /FIX is used to repair the registry and may or may not be what is
required here.

As to restoring registry entries that you have deleted using JV16, does it
not backup these deletions, in other words doesn't it have the ability to
undo these actions?  (Sorry but it is a long time since I looked at JV16).
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> I've cleared about 100 entries in the registry with Jv16 this morning
> .Now that I'm trying to clear the remaing 200
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> else ...?
> Thanks a lot !
Lando - 20 Mar 2005 20:55 GMT
In scanreg /restore ,am I asked to choose the .cab file ?
I see that they are five ....If  I wanted  to do scanreg /restore in 15 days
could save
a .cab file in some place and use it  in 15 days ?

> As to restoring registry entries that you have deleted using JV16, does
it
> not backup these deletions, in other words doesn't it have the ability to
> undo these actions?  (Sorry but it is a long time since I looked at JV16).

I think there is a back-up ,but it couldn't help in case of a broken chain ,
I'm afraid that
restoring it could lock everything........
Many thanks.

> SCANREG  /RESTORE which can either be run from a DOS prompt (either within
> Win Me or after booting with a boot floppy) or by entering the string in
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> > else ...?
> > Thanks a lot !
Mike M - 20 Mar 2005 21:21 GMT
> In scanreg /restore ,am I asked to choose the .cab file ?
> I see that they are five ....If  I wanted  to do scanreg /restore in
> 15 days could save
> a .cab file in some place and use it  in 15 days ?

Scanreg /restore will offer you the option to restore any of the 5 most
recent copies of the registry.  I would not recommend restoring a copy of
the registry from 15 days ago, or rather one that when restored is from 15
days previously, but if you want to do this the easiest way to do this
would be to do this manually after booting to DOS from a floppy as
follows.

To restore the registry from a saved RB*.CAB file.  With Win Me running
extract the three files users.dat, classes.dat and system.dat to your
desktop.  Rename these three files USER.NEW. CLASSES.NEW and SYSTEM.NEW
and move them to the Windows Folder.  Now boot to a DOS prompt using a
boot floppy.  At the DOS prompt enter

REN  C:\WINDOWS\USER.DAT  USER.OLD
REN  C:\WINDOWS\CLASSES.DAT   CLASSES.OLD
REN  C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.DAT   SYSTEM.OLD
and then
REN  C:\WINDOWS\USER.NEW  USER.DAT
REN  C:\WINDOWS\CLASSES.NEW   CLASSES.DAT
REN  C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.NEW   SYSTEM.DAT

However if you knew that the only files in the Windows folder with DAT and
NEW extensions were user, classes and system then instead of the above
commands you could use
REN  C:\WINDOWS\*.DAT  *.OLD
REN  C:\WINDOWS\*.NEW  *.DAT

Now remove the floppy and boot back into Win Me.

>> As to restoring registry entries that you have deleted using JV16,
>> does it not backup these deletions, in other words doesn't it have
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> chain , I'm afraid that
> restoring it could lock everything........

So have you tried?  Undoing the changes you have made will do just that
which is what you say you want to do.

I also have no idea what you mean by broken chains.  The registry is made
up of keys, and within those keys are various types of values each of
which contains data.  What do you mean when you refer to "chains", a set
of keys, or values or what?

> Many thanks.
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Lando - 20 Mar 2005 21:46 GMT
> To restore the registry from a saved RB*.CAB file.  With Win Me running
> extract the three files users.dat, classes.dat and system.dat to your
> desktop.  Rename these three files USER.NEW. CLASSES.NEW and SYSTEM.NEW
> and move them to the Windows Folder.

This using windows explorer copy/paste ?

> > In scanreg /restore ,am I asked to choose the .cab file ?
> > I see that they are five ....If  I wanted  to do scanreg /restore in
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>
> > Many thanks.
Mike M - 20 Mar 2005 21:54 GMT
>> To restore the registry from a saved RB*.CAB file.  With Win Me
>> running extract the three files users.dat, classes.dat and
>> system.dat to your desktop.  Rename these three files USER.NEW.
>> CLASSES.NEW and SYSTEM.NEW and move them to the Windows Folder.
>
> This using windows explorer copy/paste ?

Whichever method takes your fancy.  Drag and drop, Cut and Paste, etc.
Note though that I DO NOT RECOMMEND that you attempt to restore a 15 day
old copy of the registry when all that is required is to UNDO the changes
made using JV16.
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Lando - 20 Mar 2005 22:11 GMT
> Whichever method takes your fancy.  Drag and drop, Cut and Paste, etc.
> Note though that I DO NOT RECOMMEND that you attempt to restore a 15 day
> old copy of the registry when all that is required is to UNDO the changes
> made using JV16

Yes , I've get .This would be my last action.....first I 'd try with scanreg
/fix ,then scanreg /restore
Thanks a lot.

> >> To restore the registry from a saved RB*.CAB file.  With Win Me
> >> running extract the three files users.dat, classes.dat and
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> old copy of the registry when all that is required is to UNDO the changes
> made using JV16.
Ron Martell - 20 Mar 2005 21:23 GMT
>In scanreg /restore ,am I asked to choose the .cab file ?
>I see that they are five ....If  I wanted  to do scanreg /restore in 15 days
>could save
>a .cab file in some place and use it  in 15 days ?

Not advisable to do so.  The number of changes on a system over a 15
day period usually means that restoring a registry that old causes far
more problems than it ever fixes.

Good luck

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KB - 20 Mar 2005 20:46 GMT
Your question is a bit confusing.  You say you're trying
to clear the remaining 200 entries but follow by saying
that you want to restore to an earlier version of the
registry <grin>?

Could you please detail your problem?

Is there an 'undo' option in Jv16 which could allow you to
recover what you've removed?  This would be the easiest
option, if available.

Post back and help will be on the way.

Good luck,

KB
>-----Original Message-----
>I've cleared about 100 entries in the registry with Jv16 this morning .Now
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>
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Lando - 20 Mar 2005 21:14 GMT
> Your question is a bit confusing.  You say you're trying
> to clear the remaining 200 entries but follow by saying
> that you want to restore to an earlier version of the
> registry <grin>?

My English is not so good.........as I said I cannot clear the remaining 200
entries
because JV16 doesn't find them any more and   continues in an endless seerch
........

> Your question is a bit confusing.  You say you're trying
> to clear the remaining 200 entries but follow by saying
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> >
> >.
KB - 20 Mar 2005 21:43 GMT
Ok, now it's clear.  My english isn't so good at times
either, usually late in the evening <g>.

Heirloom has posted a recommendation as well as Mike M and
Ron M.  I suggest following their leads.

Again, Good luck!

KB
>-----Original Message-----
>> Your question is a bit confusing.  You say you're trying
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>
>.
heirloom - 20 Mar 2005 21:21 GMT
jv16 Power Tools, ver 1.3, performs a backup of Registry cleaning.  From the
main GUI, it is labeled "Backup Tool".  There you will see a complete list
of all deletions made and their corresponding date.  Options at the bottom
of this screen will include Deleting or Removing any of these backups and
Restoring them.

                       Heirloom, old and use mine

> Your question is a bit confusing.  You say you're trying
> to clear the remaining 200 entries but follow by saying
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> >
> >.
Rick T - 20 Mar 2005 21:14 GMT
> I've cleared about 100 entries in the registry with Jv16 this morning .Now
> that I'm trying to clear the remaing 200
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> or  scanreg /fix  or something else ...?
> Thanks a lot !

You're not clearing stuff from the first screen that comes up as soon as
you start the program, are you ?

Rick
 
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