Until/whilst the KB89711 issue is (being) resolved, why not run scandisk
and/or defrag in Safe Mode, or even run scandisk in Real Mode DOS?

At least you won't suffer from any internet activity - you won't be able to
connect <g>

Mart

Hallo,
What i do after having the same problems as you reported is:
-shutdown ZA (via the right mouse buttom)
-any virusscanner disabling the auto-protect
-of course no internet connection
-disabling the screensaver to "no"
-no stand-by timer neither sleep function.

I had other problems with the KB-patch...

A lot of disabling work but scandisk is now successfull already for several
years.

success
Huib

ashutdown

Delboy, I agree that defrag checking disk for errors seems redundant after a
scandisk however; it is possible that defrag checks for different errors than
scandisk so I tolerate it. As for bsod and other errors, setting restrictive
mode and restart machine is supposed to restrict running processes and
applications to the absolute minimum. Open the log file and it should show
what was running and which, if any processes were terminated. By any chance,
have you replaced scandisk with norton speed disk ?

Hi All Good Folks out there

Thanks for all your feedbacks (feedsback?) and suggestions. It seems that
KB891711 has to take the blame once more for some of the problems although
apart from this I have had no problems with KB891711 (whatever it's supposed
to do).

Shane's solution to the desktop changes is neat, I will write that one down
in my little black book.  Yes I do have quite a lot of desktop icons, but
would suggest that one of the main purposes of the desktop is to put
shortcuts there; otherwise why have anything on your desktop at all? Still
everybody to their own preferences.

To TheReal Fastlane, perfectly valid point about scandisk and defrag error
checking, although I do recall once only seeing defrag stopping and a
message saying "there are errors on your disk, run scandisk" or words to
that effect, whatever that might prove or disprove. But this was so long ago
that I can't remember the circumstances. It might even have been on Win95.
No I do not have any Norton apps. Being a tightwad, all my software came
bundled, as giveaways or freeware.

After taking in everybody's comments and suggestions, I have come to the
conclusion that any advantages ScanDefrag will give will only be marginal. I
will either clean up at the end of a session by Enditall,  Stop all internet
activity via ZoneAlarm, and clean up with the maintenance wizard; then pour
myself a stiff whisky (or 2) and relax for 5 or 10 whilst they run and then
shut down or go the scanreg, safe mode,  maintenance wizard and restore
depending on how I feel.

Anyway thanks again for all your advice and comments.

Delboy