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Windows Forum / Windows Me / System Tools / May 2005System restore won't work
I tried to "search" for a soultion to this problem and can't find one. My system restore won't create any restore points. State mgr is checked and I can create a restore point but the computer won't create any on it's own. I have checked for viruses and found none. I am running a Dell with ME, Spybot, and Spyware BlasterAVG virus scan and Sygate firewall. I saw the one post where it was suggested to enable "teatime" in SpyBot but that didn't do anything. Dell tech support suggested I disable system restore and and renable it which did nothing.Their other suggestion was to do a reinstall. It was working fine when I checked it a couple of months ago. Please help. The first thing to check is whether you can create a manual system restore checkpoint. If not, what is the error message? Note also that if you are unable to create a manual checkpoint then no automatic checkpoints will be created for the same reason. Lack of automatic system created checkpoints: There can be many reasons for lack of regular automatic system created checkpoints including running programs such as seti@home, folding@home or other similar programs, or because a background application is fooling Win Me's state manager into thinking that the system is not idle although this is not in fact the case. Examples of the latter utility include v4 of MotherBoardMonitor (but not v5), Cacheman, The Cleaner (TCActive and TCMonitor) and Norton's System Doctor where users have reported use of the Disk Health sensor has prevented the creation of automatic checkpoints. NAV7 has also been reported as causing similar problems in certain circumstances. Other users have reported similar behaviour due to their always on cable or ADSL connection continually polling their HD and thus giving the impression that the system is never idle. A significant number of users report that 3.x versions of Zone Alarm also prevent the creation of automatic checkpoints but this didn't seem to affect all ZA users including myself for a long time but my Win Me system stopped making automatic checkpoints some time ago however now that it has ZA Pro 5.xxx this problem seems to have been resolved. Similar problems have been experienced by BlackIce users and other software firewalls have also been reported to cause some users similar problems. One user has reported that B's CLIP UDF packet writing software (http://www.bhacorp.com/products/clip/clip.html) prevented the creation of automatic checkpoints and another that they had experienced the same problem with Roxio's DirectCD. Another user has also reported that CookieWall by AnalogX will prevent automatic checkpoints being made if its "Scan for cookies every .... seconds" is set to a value less than 121 seconds (two minutes).  SignatureMike Maltby MS-MVP mike.maltby@gmail.com > I tried to "search" for a soultion to this problem and can't find one. > My system restore won't create any restore points. State mgr is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > did nothing.Their other suggestion was to do a reinstall. It was > working fine when I checked it a couple of months ago. Please help. Hey Mike, You can add another one to your list of auto System Checkpoint killers.......that would be the file <ezprint.exe> that comes with Lexmark printers. Email support posts to Lexmark have resulted in responses from Rakesh and Tajesh with typical 'rubber stamp' answers that have had nothing to do with the issue. But, like a pitbull, I am not giving up easily...... Heirloom, old and Lexmark must be rooming with Symantec in Pakistan > The first thing to check is whether you can create a manual system restore > checkpoint. If not, what is the error message? Note also that if you are [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > did nothing.Their other suggestion was to do a reinstall. It was > > working fine when I checked it a couple of months ago. Please help. Thanks H - likewise I should also add Digiguide (or rather its executable client01.exe), -- Mike > Hey Mike, > You can add another one to your list of auto System Checkpoint [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and Lexmark must be rooming with > Symantec in Pakistan Also add Ccleaner running in clean at boot mode and teatimer tool in spybot Delboy > Thanks H - likewise I should also add Digiguide (or rather its executable > client01.exe), [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > and Lexmark must be rooming with > > Symantec in Pakistan Thanks. SignatureMike > Also add Ccleaner running in clean at boot mode and teatimer tool in > spybot I can create a restore point but the computer won't do one on it's own. I don't have any of the programs running that you mentioned. > The first thing to check is whether you can create a manual system restore > checkpoint. If not, what is the error message? Note also that if you are [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > did nothing.Their other suggestion was to do a reinstall. It was > > working fine when I checked it a couple of months ago. Please help. > I can create a restore point but the computer won't do one on it's > own. I don't have any of the programs running that you mentioned. I only gave examples of some of the programs that can prevent the creation of an automatic checkpoint. If you want to have automatic checkpoints created you'll have to do the hard work and determine which of the applications you have running continuously in the background is causing this problem. Start by checking what you have being loaded each time you boot your system and that isn't part of the basic operating system. One of these is most likely to be the culprit. SignatureMike Maltby MS-MVP mike.maltby@gmail.com It is now working. It was my AVG virus scan control center.Thanks for all the help > > I can create a restore point but the computer won't do one on it's > > own. I don't have any of the programs running that you mentioned. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > boot your system and that isn't part of the basic operating system. One > of these is most likely to be the culprit. I find it difficult to believe that it's a problem with the AVG Control Center - a great many of the users in these groups use AVG, and none have reported similar problems before. Which version are you running?? SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > It is now working. It was my AVG virus scan control center.Thanks for all > the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> boot your system and that isn't part of the basic operating system. One >> of these is most likely to be the culprit. I concur with Noel. I recently installed the most recent free AVG to a "parallel" WinME installation while troubleshooting. It did not interfere with auto SR checkpoint creation. SignatureJack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ > I find it difficult to believe that it's a problem with the AVG Control > Center - a great many of the users in these groups use AVG, and none have [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >> boot your system and that isn't part of the basic operating system. One > >> of these is most likely to be the culprit. Get a good process viewer, i.e. Process Explorer, free, from www.sysinternals.com . It will show you every running process, including background processes not shown in End Task (C-A-D) and the % of cpu usage by each. Heirloom, old and back from KC > I can create a restore point but the computer won't do one on it's own. I > don't have any of the programs running that you mentioned. [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > > did nothing.Their other suggestion was to do a reinstall. It was > > > working fine when I checked it a couple of months ago. Please help. In case I did not make it clear DISenable teatimer in spybot. I had exactly the same problem as you and this was the cause I tracked it down to Delboy > I tried to "search" for a soultion to this problem and can't find one. > My system restore won't create any restore points. State mgr is checked and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > renable it which did nothing.Their other suggestion was to do a reinstall. It > was working fine when I checked it a couple of months ago. Please help. Thanks for clairifying that. I thought I read in one of your other posts to "toggle" teatimer. Which to me means to enable it. > In case I did not make it clear DISenable teatimer in spybot. I had exactly > the same problem as you and this was the cause I tracked it down to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > It > > was working fine when I checked it a couple of months ago. Please help. A "toggle" has two positions: "On" and "Off". AKA, "Enable" or "Disable". SignatureJack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ > Thanks for clairifying that. I thought I read in one of your other posts to > "toggle" teatimer. Which to me means to enable it. <SNIP> Sorry about the confusion. In future I will have to say something less ambiguous. Toggle on or off maybe? Check or uncheck? Delboy > Thanks for clairifying that. I thought I read in one of your other posts to > "toggle" teatimer. Which to me means to enable it. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > It > > > was working fine when I checked it a couple of months ago. Please help. |
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