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ds22401 - 08 Oct 2005 17:54 GMT Everything I write is about my ME computer. My computer has slowed to a crawl. I recovered the hard drrive, put on protections. Won't speed up to do anything. Try to play Pogo games and it won't let me in most. This started over 6 months ago. I had previously played these games. I installed a firewall on the ME when I got a new computer, wouldn't let me in anything. Took firewall off, still problems. I have over 75% memory available. I have frequent freezes and lock-ups. I keep thinking it's pop-ups trying to come in. I rarely see any. I hope someone has a solution.
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Noel Paton - 08 Oct 2005 21:43 GMT You may already have a virus/spyware hijack
download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that A-V-disabling viruses are not present on your PC http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp
- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.
Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the CoolWebSearch hijacker. http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html
Use CWShredder, the removal tool: http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/
download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system.
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> Everything I write is about my ME computer. My computer has slowed to a > crawl. I recovered the hard drrive, put on protections. Won't speed up to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > in. I rarely see any. > I hope someone has a solution. ds22401 - 15 Oct 2005 12:05 GMT I ran all the scans, a mess. I don't see a prompt in the start-up that will let me open in safe mode. sStinger had a lot of items. Shredder stayed on for 3 days then said everything gone. ??? Nothing in adaware or spy sweeper
Faster, but not up to speed, yet. Thank you
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> You may already have a virus/spyware hijack > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > in. I rarely see any. > > I hope someone has a solution. Noel Paton - 15 Oct 2005 17:20 GMT You MUST get to Safe Mode!!
To nick Mart's post.....
"Essentially - How to boot into Safe Mode :-
There is an 'Official' (documented) MS method for WinMe - as per a search for 'safe mode' in Help and Support Centre will find - by holding down or 'stabbing at' the Ctrl or the F8 keys as the computer starts to boot (i.e - at switch-on)
A further couple of 'Unofficial' methods are by using the Shift key as above, or when your machine is running in Normal Mode, run msconfig.exe and on the General tab, select Advanced and check the 'Enable Startup Menu' box. (Not forgetting to disable it when you've finished <g>)
Good luck, but FYI - "Description of the Safe Mode Troubleshooter" http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;274155
or more detailed - "How to Troubleshoot Windows Millennium Edition Startup Problems" http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;273738"
HTH
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>I ran all the scans, a mess. > I don't see a prompt in the start-up that will let me open in safe mode. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> > in. I rarely see any. >> > I hope someone has a solution. ds22401 - 22 Oct 2005 16:06 GMT I got into "safe mode". Thank you. Ran everything again. Nothing found. No change in speed, but now computer ramdomly reboots with no warning, windows protection stopped working and system shut down, I had to shut off power to turn computer off. I think this one has had it. Something has taken control that can hide from the scans. Thank you for all of your help.
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> You MUST get to Safe Mode!! > [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > >> > in. I rarely see any. > >> > I hope someone has a solution. Noel Paton - 22 Oct 2005 17:32 GMT This does look to me as if you may have a hardware failure (probably the fans) - if you're not reasonably competent with electronics, your best bet is to take it to your local techie (NOT bestbuy/PCWorld/whatever - the local 'know-it-all') and ask him to have a look - make sure that you describe your symptoms first!!
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>I got into "safe mode". Thank you. Ran everything again. Nothing found. No > change in speed, but now computer ramdomly reboots with no warning, [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] >> >> > in. I rarely see any. >> >> > I hope someone has a solution. Mart - 22 Oct 2005 18:07 GMT Following on from Noel's conclusions (with which I would concur) - and whilst you are waiting to arrange for an inspection by your "local techie" - you may wish to do a little further testing for yourself to try and localise it further. Armed with your results, it might just help to assure your "local techie" that he can't pull the wool over your eyes <g>
> "computer ramdomly reboots with no warning," Boot using your Windows Startup (floppy) Disk and select Option 1 (or let it continue to 'time-out' to) the DOS Help page. Scroll up and down the Help pages every now and again. Leave it running for several hours and see if it still 'randomly reboots'.
If so, then it's a problem with your PC and not with WinMe (nor your Hard Disk!!).
Good luck
Mart
> This does look to me as if you may have a hardware failure (probably the > fans) - if you're not reasonably competent with electronics, your best bet [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] >>> >> > in. I rarely see any. >>> >> > I hope someone has a solution. ds22401 - 29 Jan 2006 20:40 GMT I haven't forgotten any of you. Been working on computer slowly. Had to recover hard drive and start over. Installed new protections. Nothing helps. The speed I had before will never come back. I thank you all for all your help. I see a new computer in my future.
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> This does look to me as if you may have a hardware failure (probably the > fans) - if you're not reasonably competent with electronics, your best bet [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > >> >> > in. I rarely see any. > >> >> > I hope someone has a solution. Ron Martell - 08 Oct 2005 21:46 GMT >Everything I write is about my ME computer. My computer has slowed to a >crawl. I recovered the hard drrive, put on protections. Won't speed up to do [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >in. I rarely see any. >I hope someone has a solution. We need some additional information about your computer.
- What is the make and model? - What type of CPU does it have and what speed does it run at? - How much RAM does your computer have?
Available memory is rarely if ever reported as a percentage so I assume that your comment about "over 75% memory available" is really a reference to the value of free system resources which does not relate directly to RAM usage. The 75% value indicates that your machine is fairly lightly loaded and should perform quite well.
Use Start - Run - MSCONFIG and go to the Startup tab. Make a list of all the items that shown there (just the names in the first column) and post that information back here together with the items I asked about at the beginning. That will help us to determine what might be affecting your machine.
Good luck
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ds22401 - 15 Oct 2005 11:58 GMT I'm not sure I can answer all qoestions. Not sure where to find answers. But , here goes: LanPlus, Inc. CentaurHauls ViaSamuel2 120.0MB Ram
Scan Registry Task Monitor PC Health System Tray Load Power Profile Lex Start Lexmark Pin-tray LXSUPMON D-LinkAirUSB Utility Spy Sweeper NavDefAlert NortonAuto-protect Load Power Profile Scheduling Agent WZCBDL Service KB891711
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> >Everything I write is about my ME computer. My computer has slowed to a > >crawl. I recovered the hard drrive, put on protections. Won't speed up to do [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Noel Paton - 15 Oct 2005 17:23 GMT 'Nuf Sed!
You have Norton installed!!!! (at this point I shall refrain from saying more on the subject of Norton/Symantec software, except to mention than IMNHO, it is best used anywhere else than on a computer)
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> I'm not sure I can answer all qoestions. Not sure where to find answers. > But [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Ron Martell - 17 Oct 2005 08:15 GMT >I'm not sure I can answer all qoestions. Not sure where to find answers. But >, here goes: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >WZCBDL Service >KB891711 Norton Antivirus is basically incompatible with WindowsMe and you need to give serious consideration to replacing it with a different product.
The following antivirus products are ones that do not have specific compatibility issues with WindowsMe, at least insofar as I am aware. There may be others:
AVG (free) http://www,grisoft.com Avast (free) http://www.avast.com eTrust http://www.my-etrust.com PC-cillin http://www.trendmicro.com Kaspersky http://www.kaspersky.com
If there are still problems after uninstalling Norton then post a further response back here. Note that Norton is so shoddily programmed that you will likely have to make use of a secondary uninstaller (available from the Symantec/Norton website) in order to fully clean it off your system.
Good luck
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Heather - 17 Oct 2005 17:41 GMT Hi Ron......
I would like to add the "free" (trial) version link for EZ Trust.....I am presently using that one myself. It is for one year.
http://store.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/caconsum/staticContent/PYP CtrialUS.html
Which should be the same as here (if I did it right, lol)... http://snipurl.com/hh6r
Cheers, Heather
>>I'm not sure I can answer all qoestions. Not sure where to find answers. >>But [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Joan Archer - 17 Oct 2005 21:48 GMT Got Pogo sorted out yet Heather <g> Joan
> Hi Ron...... > > I would like to add the "free" (trial) version link for EZ > Trust.....I am presently using that one myself. It is for one year. Heather - 17 Oct 2005 23:56 GMT No....dammit!! I will go over and see Willy tomorrow. Seems the Pogo techs are saying that it isn't their fault, but that people should try either an older version of Sun Java or the "really old" MS Java.....and that people who have Audigy cards are having problems and that is not "their problem"......bwa ha ha. Pass it on to everyone else, why doncha! I don't have Audigy.....ATI SoundMax, I believe.
Just had the new furnace installed today......am going out tomorrow with a tin cup and a sign begging for money.....ROFL!!
XX Heather
> Got Pogo sorted out yet Heather <g> > Joan [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> I would like to add the "free" (trial) version link for EZ >> Trust.....I am presently using that one myself. It is for one year. Heather - 18 Oct 2005 00:14 GMT Oops!! I usually manage to screw the names up re audio and video...this time I combined them. ATI Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis for video and SoundMax for audio. Updated the drivers on anything that needed it, but leaving the Asus motherboard alone, grin. (getting brave in my old age)
XX Figgs
> No....dammit!! I will go over and see Willy tomorrow. Seems the Pogo > techs are saying that it isn't their fault, but that people should try [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>> I would like to add the "free" (trial) version link for EZ >>> Trust.....I am presently using that one myself. It is for one year. Mike M - 18 Oct 2005 00:39 GMT > (getting brave in my old age) Oh so very brave indeed! I can well remember when you were loath to update a driver for fear of what might happen. Trouble was, for you it often did. :-)
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> Oops!! I usually manage to screw the names up re audio and > video...this time I combined them. ATI Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis > for video and SoundMax for audio. Updated the drivers on anything > that needed it, but leaving the Asus motherboard alone, grin. (getting > brave in my old age) Heather - 18 Oct 2005 04:30 GMT LOL!! You betcha it did. I have a black cloud over my head!! I always know when things are going to go **** up....the old intuition hasn't failed me yet!!
And I wrote you a private epistle to catch you up and will inflict the *same pain* on Noel, Joanie and the Loon, lol. Back in the saddle again, so to speak.
XX Heather
>> (getting brave in my old age) > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> that needed it, but leaving the Asus motherboard alone, grin. (getting >> brave in my old age) Joan Archer - 18 Oct 2005 11:43 GMT ROFL Joan
>> (getting brave in my old age) > > Oh so very brave indeed! I can well remember when you were loath to > update a driver for fear of what might happen. Trouble was, for you > it often did. :-) Joan Archer - 18 Oct 2005 11:45 GMT <lol> Just remember to put on your oldest clothes <g> Joan
> Just had the new furnace installed today......am going out tomorrow > with a tin cup and a sign begging for money.....ROFL!! > > XX Heather Heather - 18 Oct 2005 17:57 GMT I wear those ones every day.....lol.
Being retired has its distinct advantages!! No makeup required and I am recycling my wardrobe!!
XX Heather
> <lol> Just remember to put on your oldest clothes <g> > Joan [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> XX Heather Noel Paton - 18 Oct 2005 20:38 GMT (what - only your wardrobe?? ) <GD&R - fast!!!!>
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>I wear those ones every day.....lol. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>> >>> XX Heather Joan Archer - 18 Oct 2005 21:58 GMT <lol> She'll have you for that <g> Joan
> (what - only your wardrobe?? ) > <GD&R - fast!!!!> Heather - 19 Oct 2005 02:32 GMT Hmmm, I will deal with you later!! Glad to see you are still alive, lol. Do I interpret your new address right and you crashed your computer? Probably!! (snicker)
Figgs
> (what - only your wardrobe?? ) > <GD&R - fast!!!!> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>>> >>>> XX Heather Joan Archer - 19 Oct 2005 11:43 GMT <lol> You obviously haven't been to have a look at his site lately, have a wander over and all will be revealed <g> Joan
> Hmmm, I will deal with you later!! Glad to see you are still alive, > lol. Do I interpret your new address right and you crashed your > computer? Probably!! (snicker) > > Figgs Noel Paton - 19 Oct 2005 20:19 GMT (I haven't stripped in public recently - that I remember, anyway!!<g>)
New things are coming - and hopefully a new site altogether, if I can sort out a few technical things (like cash, etc<g>)
Intention is to move/mirror the technical stuff to a more 'tech-friendly' host, and leave the 'personal' stuff there for the moment - and expand the techie stuff on the new site considerably, in my spare time.
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> <lol> You obviously haven't been to have a look at his site lately, > have a wander over and all will be revealed <g> > Joan Joan Archer - 19 Oct 2005 20:53 GMT ROFL Does that mean I'll be able to get back to your photo's <g> Joan
> (I haven't stripped in public recently - that I remember, anyway!!<g>) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > moment - and expand the techie stuff on the new site considerably, in > my spare time. Heather - 19 Oct 2005 20:59 GMT Yeah......where's the photos?? Love the chick with the blonde wig!!
XX Figgs
> ROFL > Does that mean I'll be able to get back to your photo's <g> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> moment - and expand the techie stuff on the new site considerably, in >> my spare time. Noel Paton - 20 Oct 2005 06:32 GMT The photo's are still there - I just removed the link in the opening page to them!
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> Yeah......where's the photos?? Love the chick with the blonde wig!! > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> moment - and expand the techie stuff on the new site considerably, >>> in my spare time.
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