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Windows Forum / Windows Me / System Tools / November 2005System Restore + Active X disabled + Windows update - Problems all at once?
I used Windows update about 2 weeks ago and updated Internet Explorer (Ver 6.0.2800.1106 Update Ver. Q896688) - No problems. I sell a few things on e-bay from time to time and started to list another item. When I got to the picture upload page the enhanced picture program (Active X Control) was not there. In short I cannot download any Active X controls, not just e-bay but any Active X controls. I have not changed any security settings. I rechecked my security settings and they are still set up to accept Active X. Thinking it might be the last IE6 update I went to system Restore to reset my computer back to before the update. Blow me down I got this Error message;- Title "Internet Explorer Script Error An error has occurred in the script on this page Line: 14 Char: 9 Error: Object doesn't support this property or method Code: 0 URL: res://rstrui.exe/start.htm Do you want to continue running scripts on this page? There are Yes / No buttons This is a small window on my desktop So thinking I should see if I can Update my system again I went to WindowME update page. After it had loaded correctly and just before scanning a message came up to say "Administrators Only" I also have run "scanreg /fix" and attempted to repair IE6 My computer is a stand alone machine. To my knowledge I have not changed anything O/s: WindowsME Ram: 512mB Disc 45gB (35gB free) Processor: 1gB Broad Band connection Sorry this is long winded and I hope I have given you enough info to help Regards Grimreaper Two possible fixes, I'm not sure which applies in your case. Both apparently a side effect of installing the 896688 patch. See: KB909889 - "ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security update 896688" (http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889), and, KB909738 - "A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may not load as expected in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security update 896688" (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=909738).  SignatureMike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com > I used Windows update about 2 weeks ago and updated Internet Explorer > (Ver [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Regards > Grimreaper Hello Mike Thank you for your reply. I have just tried both with no success. With the first link I had to change the first line from Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 to Regedit4. Before I did this I got an error message saying that the entry was not a registry entry. I restarted my computer after this but still will not accept Active X controls. With the second link I have tried Set the ActiveX compatibility value in the registry and again ,after restarting my computer, no luck. I guess there is no way to remove the Q896688 update? I'm going to bed now so I will check back tomorrow night. > Two possible fixes, I'm not sure which applies in your case. Both > apparently a side effect of installing the 896688 patch. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Regards > > Grimreaper You should be able to uninstall the KB896688 using the "Internet Explorer Q896688" entry in Add/Remove Programs. Note though that if you do this you will have restored Internet Explorer's vulnerability to certain exploits. SignatureMike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com > Hello Mike > Thank you for your reply. I have just tried both with no success. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I guess there is no way to remove the Q896688 update? > I'm going to bed now so I will check back tomorrow night. Hello Mike I got home early today and went through the links you gave me again as I was very tired last night just in case I had made a mistake. Again no change. In desperation I re-installed WindowsME over itself which gave me IE5.5. I went to Windows update and updated all updates after several restarts. I did not install KB896688. All the items that did not work do work now. I have just read your post, I should have been more patient. I did not realise that you can uninstall these updates via Add/Remove Programs. BTW I have installed the System Restore Patch 290700usam.exe Thank you for your help. I appreciate I am at some risk. Is this problem something that Microsoft will fix, if in fact, it is a bug? Best Regards Grim > You should be able to uninstall the KB896688 using the "Internet Explorer > Q896688" entry in Add/Remove Programs. Note though that if you do this [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I guess there is no way to remove the Q896688 update? > > I'm going to bed now so I will check back tomorrow night. I *do* hope that you uninstalled IE6 before you reinstalled ME?? SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Hello Mike > I got home early today and went through the links you gave me again as I [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> > I guess there is no way to remove the Q896688 update? >> > I'm going to bed now so I will check back tomorrow night. Oh Dear! Reinstalling Win Me over itself without first uninstalling IE6 is going to have had the result of leaving Internet Explorer in an unknown and virtually totally trashed state due to it now having a mix of IE5.5 and IE6 version files. It seems though from your post that you might have been extremely lucky and got away with it in which case great sighs of relief all round. :-) If however you find that your start to experience problems with IE you might want to consider ripping out IE by the roots and then reinstalling IE6. Noel Paton has advice on how to do this on his site http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/ReInIE.htm Best of luck, SignatureMike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com > Hello Mike > I got home early today and went through the links you gave me again [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thank you for your help. I appreciate I am at some risk. Is this > problem something that Microsoft will fix, if in fact, it is a bug? Sorry Mike / Noel Yes I did gentlemen. I ran a program called IEradicator as I had a problem with IE a long time ago and this program removed it. I have been to Noel's web site (very helpful) but did not do all he suggested last night. All the faults seem to be OK now so I am reluctant to do anymore. Thanks to both of you again for your concerns and help. System Restore is creating restore points if the computer is left idle for some time. I have AVG 7 + Adaware + SpywareBlaster + The Cleaner + Zone Alarm. All are checked for updates daily. Again I ask is this KB896688 problem something that Microsoft will fix, if in fact, it is a bug? Best Regards Grim > Oh Dear! Reinstalling Win Me over itself without first uninstalling IE6 > is going to have had the result of leaving Internet Explorer in an unknown [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Thank you for your help. I appreciate I am at some risk. Is this > > problem something that Microsoft will fix, if in fact, it is a bug? You do need to complete the reinstallation by doing the updates and repairs I suggest. By all means, leave the 896688 patch until last - then create a manual restore point prior to installation of that patch. That way, even if an uninstall fails (should it be needed), you will have a way of returning the system to the functional state. Good Luck SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Sorry Mike / Noel > Yes I did gentlemen. I ran a program called IEradicator as I had a problem [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> > Thank you for your help. I appreciate I am at some risk. Is this >> > problem something that Microsoft will fix, if in fact, it is a bug? Just completed all you suggested but I am too 'chicken' to do the 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank you so much for your help Best Regards Grim > You do need to complete the reinstallation by doing the updates and repairs > I suggest. [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > >> > Thank you for your help. I appreciate I am at some risk. Is this > >> > problem something that Microsoft will fix, if in fact, it is a bug? I really think you should install the 8966688 hotfix. If you do find you have problems (I have experienced none here on Win Me with IE6 SP1 and 896688) you then have the choice of either uninstalling it using the entry it places in Add/Remove Programs or if that fails for some reason using the system restore checkpoint it creates before it installs itself. Without this patch you are wide open when on the net to your system being seriously compromised if you chance to visit a rogue web site. SignatureMike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com > Just completed all you suggested but I am too 'chicken' to do the > 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank you so > much for your help I agree wholeheartedly with Mike in this - despite a small hiccup in my personal experience of an 896688 update in WinXP! SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's >I really think you should install the 8966688 hotfix. If you do find you >have problems (I have experienced none here on Win Me with IE6 SP1 and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank you so >> much for your help Gentlemen Right or wrong I believe that this patch will knock out my System Restore if I install it just like it did before. If it will not uninstall via Add/Remove Programs I am back to the original problem. I do accept your concerns. Maybe one day when I'm feeling lucky and have more time I will have a go but right now I need this computer to work. Thank you both once again Best Regards Grim > I agree wholeheartedly with Mike in this - despite a small hiccup in my > personal experience of an 896688 update in WinXP! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >> 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank you so > >> much for your help Let me say this slowly. Installing the 896688 patch will have no, that is no, effect on system restore. Why is it that you think otherwise? The patch has nothing to do with any of the files involved in system restore. System Restore does not use ActiveX nor Internet Explorer. Why do you think that the patch will not uninstall using Add/Remove programs since from your posts it is clear that you have never tried this? SignatureMike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com > Gentlemen > Right or wrong I believe that this patch will knock out my System [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > work. > Thank you both once again System Restore was almost certainly dead and buried long before you installed the patch last time - it was simply the installation that brought it to light. Your choice - but you are insecure until you reinstall the patch. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Gentlemen > Right or wrong I believe that this patch will knock out my System Restore [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> >> 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank you so >> >> much for your help I will answer both of you with this post if I may There are a lot of people that use computers and to not think or try and logically sort out what might have happened. I am one of these people. Noel you must be right about my system restore not working before the 896688 update because I have not used it or checked to see if it was creating restore points for a very long time. The reason I thought (wrongly) that this patch had caused my system restore to fail was because when I tried to use it a warning message came up referring to an Internet Explorer Script Error. The page that should have loaded the Active X control commented that my security settings in Internet Explorer were not allowing my computer to download the control. Mike that is why I made the wrong assumption. I related the warning (Internet Explorer Script Error) I have a minimal amount of software on this computer and don't visit Add / Remove Programs very often. I thought that once these updates were installed they could not be removed. I'm sorry I was wrong to assume that. Is there any connection with this 896688 update and the fact that I could not access Windows update site or the fact that I could not use Active X controls? I really would like an answer to that because if you guys say that it was not my problem I will install this patch. If I do install the patch after your reply and get a problem with both the afore mentioned problems would I be right in thinking it was the patch? Best Regards Grim > System Restore was almost certainly dead and buried long before you > installed the patch last time - it was simply the installation that brought [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >> >> 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank you so > >> >> much for your help > Is there any connection with this 896688 update and the fact that I > could not access Windows update site or the fact that I could not use > Active X controls? Loop back to your original post and my reply to that post. In my case I have had no problems with Active-X controls and 896688 on Win Me or any other system. It appears that your system, at least last time round, is one of those affected. If you have since reinstalled Win Me I feel the best check would be to try for yourself. If 896688 again causes you problems you know how to remove the patch. Best of luck, SignatureMike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com > I will answer both of you with this post if I may > There are a lot of people that use computers and to not think or try [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] >>>>>> 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank >>>>>> you so much for your help Hello Mike I have installed the patch!!! All the problems that appeared last time have not reappeared again [:-)). Thank you so much and Noel. I am now up to date with security patches. I am not going to ask why it did not work last time and this time it did. The answer would be tooooooooooooo much for me to deal with. Thank you once again Best Regards Grim > > Is there any connection with this 896688 update and the fact that I > > could not access Windows update site or the fact that I could not use [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > >>>>>> 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank > >>>>>> you so much for your help That's good news to read. > I am not going to ask why it did not work last time and this time it > did. I prefer to be asked questions I can answer so on this occasion I'm glad you didn't ask the question. <vbg> If you find the odd problem with ActiveX in future hopefully you'll find that either KB909889 or KB909738 hold the answer. Cheers - best of luck for the future. SignatureMike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com > Hello Mike > I have installed the patch!!! All the problems that appeared last [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > tooooooooooooo much for me to deal with. > Thank you once again Glad to hear it - good luck for the future! SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Hello Mike > I have installed the patch!!! All the problems that appeared last time [quoted text clipped - 108 lines] >> >>>>>> 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank >> >>>>>> you so much for your help Thank you Mike and Noel Best Regards Grim > Glad to hear it - good luck for the future! > [quoted text clipped - 110 lines] > >> >>>>>> 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank > >> >>>>>> you so much for your help To everyone with this problem I Switched back to my old MSHTML.DLL file and everything is working again. I have a 98 Windows system my other system is XP and no problem there. I wish Microsoft could have warned us........!*%&. > I agree wholeheartedly with Mike in this - despite a small hiccup in my > personal experience of an 896688 update in WinXP! [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >> 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank you so > >> much for your help Doug - if you still have the problem mshtml file, could you please email it to me? I'd like to take a look at it (my email addy here is valid) Glad to hear you're fixed up, I'd just like to try and work out what went wrong... SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > To everyone with this problem I Switched back to my old MSHTML.DLL file > and everything is working again. I have a 98 Windows system my other [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >> 896688 patch again. All is well, including me now [:-) Thank you so >> >> much for your help |
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