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will more RAM fix low system resources?

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teasdam - 29 Dec 2005 17:16 GMT
My computer is a Pentium III 733mhz with 256m RAM. We recently got cable
internet service from Comcast which comes with McAfee security stuff - e.g.
firewall, virus scan, and privacy agent. The computer ran fine until I
installed the McAfee stuff, now it runs very slow much of the time. The
system resource meter says I'm at ~68% (for "user resources") immediately
after startup. This drops to 40-50% once I start doing other things.

From what I've read online, RAM is not the issue when it comes to low system
resources. The suggestions I've found pretty much all just say to remove as
many of the TSR programs as possible, but I don't have anything left to cut
out. Before I drop any money on RAM I want to make sure that I'm
understanding correctly that additional memory will NOT fix the low resources
issue. The system requirements for the security software is far below what I
have...any ideas?

Thanks!
Noel Paton - 29 Dec 2005 17:23 GMT
In answer to your headline - NO!!
Your problem is simply overkill on McAfee
If you're connected via a router, then you can ditch the McAfee Firewall and
speed your system up

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> My computer is a Pentium III 733mhz with 256m RAM. We recently got cable
> internet service from Comcast which comes with McAfee security stuff -
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> Thanks!
teasdam - 29 Dec 2005 19:59 GMT
hmm, interesting...we're using a run-of-the-mill Netgear router. Are you
saying that the router itself will act as a firewall, or that the router may
have some firewall capabilities that I can turn on somewhere in the config?

> In answer to your headline - NO!!
> Your problem is simply overkill on McAfee
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> > Thanks!
Noel Paton - 29 Dec 2005 22:34 GMT
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> hmm, interesting...we're using a run-of-the-mill Netgear router. Are you
> saying that the router itself will act as a firewall,

If it's any sort of a decent NAT router, then yes, it includes firewall
capability

or that the router may
> have some firewall capabilities that I can turn on somewhere in the
> config?

Which model? what firmware?? a few details (insignificant htough they may
seem to you) owuld help!

>> In answer to your headline - NO!!
>> Your problem is simply overkill on McAfee
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>> >
>> > Thanks!
teasdam - 30 Dec 2005 04:01 GMT
the router model is Netgear WGR614...just bought it a couple weeks ago so
firmware I suppose would be the most recent or pretty close. (Router is
wireless, but this computer I'm having trouble with is wired to the router
via ethernet.)

Looking at the router config options, the only mention I see of a firewall
is an option to "disable SPI firewall"

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> >> > Thanks!
Noel Paton - 30 Dec 2005 07:36 GMT
http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WGR614.php
Yes - it's a NATted device - providing you secure your wireless side
properly, you should be able to run without a software firewall on any wired
PC.

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> the router model is Netgear WGR614...just bought it a couple weeks ago so
> firmware I suppose would be the most recent or pretty close. (Router is
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>> >> > Thanks!
teasdam - 30 Dec 2005 17:48 GMT
gotcha...I'l unload the firewall and see how she flies...

Thanks much!

> http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WGR614.php
> Yes - it's a NATted device - providing you secure your wireless side
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> >> >> > Thanks!
Mike M - 29 Dec 2005 17:24 GMT
System Resources as usually defined when running Win 9x systems has
nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of RAM, the cpu or the hard disk
but instead refers to two fixed size 64KB stacks used for storing 16 bit
pointers and the like.  What confuses me is what actual problems you are
having.  Resources are there to be used and you should not expect to see
problems until they drop to the low teens if not into the units at which
time you will have to close (not minimise) windows before opening new
windows.

The more applications you have being launched each time you boot your
system the more resources that you will be using.  If you feel you need to
have more resources available immediately following booting then you have
to reduce the number of applications being launched when booting and
instead only start them when required.
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> My computer is a Pentium III 733mhz with 256m RAM. We recently got
> cable internet service from Comcast which comes with McAfee security
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>
> Thanks!
Ron Martell - 30 Dec 2005 02:57 GMT
>My computer is a Pentium III 733mhz with 256m RAM. We recently got cable
>internet service from Comcast which comes with McAfee security stuff - e.g.
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>
>Thanks!

See http://www.onlinehelp.bc.ca/tips.htm#resources
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/resource.htm

One of the best ways to improve the value of free System Resources is
to reduce the number of background "tools and toys" (a.k.a. crap and
corruption) that gets loaded when the computer starts up. Use Start -
Run - MSCONFIG and go to the Startup tab.  Compare the list of items
that are loading at startup with the following checklist web sites to
see what can be safely dispensed with:

http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html - has trojan related
items listed

Note:  Please ensure that you fully understand the purpose of a
startup item, how and why it was put into the startup, and the
consequences (if any) of removing it before you make any changes. Some
items are very important for the proper and safe functioning of your
computer, including at least one item that is listed twice.

Disabling an item by unchecking it in MSCONFIG should only be done for
testing purposes or as a "last resort" when no other way of getting
rid of the unwanted item can be found.

Good luck

Ron Martell     Duncan B.C.    Canada
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