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System Restore Question

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Job - 10 Feb 2006 02:33 GMT
Last evening I began to try to remove some remnants of
Microsoft Works 6 so that I could install Works 7.0.  I cut
a Manual Restore point prior to starting in case things fell
apart.  You guessed it, things did come unglued (I have
since accomplished the removal/install).

At this point I tried to do a Restore to the Manual Restore
point and got the famous message "Restore was
unsuccessful...no changes have been made".  There were also
four System Checkpoints available, two each for the previous
two days.  When I tried those I got the same message
"Restore was unsuccessful...no changes have been made".

Then I got serious and pulled out my Mike M System Restore
file.  I checked the version of the smgr.dll in the
windows\system folder and it showed the correct version
v4.90.0.3003.  Although my problem didn't appear to be
related I then checked to make sure I didn't have a
wininit.ini file.

After these checks I did the test of System Restore by
1) creating shortcut to desktop
2) cutting manual restore point
3) deleting shortcut off desktop
4) doing  a System Restore
The shortcut was restored to the desktop and I did not get
any errors.

I again tried to do a Restore to the Manual Restore point
that I cut prior to the removal/install attempt but still
got the message "Restore was unsuccessful...no changes have
been made".

Now after all these words my question is why might the other
Restore attempts fail although the "test of System Restore"
worked properly?

Thank you.

Job says, "A restore a day should keep the doctor away."
Noel Paton - 10 Feb 2006 10:57 GMT
The short answer is probably that the control files somehow got corrupted -
possibly either by manual editing of the content, or by an AV scan that
attempted to remove something it shouldn't, or by a disk error

Check your AV and see if it's tried doing anything in the _Restore archive.
Did you run any other malware scanners? did you do anything to any of the
contained files? - disk you run a Scandisk? - what was the scandisk.log
result?

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> Last evening I began to try to remove some remnants of
> Microsoft Works 6 so that I could install Works 7.0.  I cut
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> Job says, "A restore a day should keep the doctor away."
Job - 10 Feb 2006 21:06 GMT
Hi Noel,  I appreciate your response.

Answers to your questions--I had not run Scan Disk nor
malware scanners nor virus scan.

I did do some registry cleaning (I know, dangerous) in
trying to purge Works 6.0 but I reviewed the log of deleted
items and did not see anything obviously related to Restore.
Although I guess that could have corrupted something.

Anyhow, a subsequent System Checkpoint was created and I was
able to restore to it successfully so I'm in high cotton
again.

It's ironic that prior to starting my removal/install
activity I had cut a Manual Checkpoint so that I would have
a recovery if I screwed anything up.  I think that in the
future I will build a Ghost Image before I start an activity
that may get hairy.

Cheers and thanks for your help.

Job says, "I live by the carpenter's rule: cut to fit, beat
into place."

> The short answer is probably that the control files somehow got corrupted -
> possibly either by manual editing of the content, or by an AV scan that
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> > Job says, "A restore a day should keep the doctor away."
Noel Paton - 11 Feb 2006 10:02 GMT
A simple registry clean should not reset System Restore (unless perhaps the
cleaner predated Win ME/XP), as none of the data pertaining to SR is held in
the registry, except for the startup item *Statemgr.exe  - and you'd have
had to re-enable that to get SR working again.

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> Hi Noel,  I appreciate your response.
>
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>> > Job says, "A restore a day should keep the doctor away."
 
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