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Jim Cladingboel - 12 Aug 2006 05:50 GMT
Mike,

Using Adaware today, I took note of the following
items found, some of which were duplicated :

Last application to use DirectX
Last application to use Direct Draw
Last application to use Direct 3D
Last application to use Direct Input
Last downloaded directory in IE
List of addresses in IE
Last play index loaded in WMP
List of documents opened in MS Word
List of files opened in MS Excel
Last key accessed using Regedit
List of recently opened programs
List of recently saved files, by extension
List of recent documents opened
MRU list for items opened in Start | Run

My question is, what does any of this Spyware have to do
with protecting intellectual property?

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Jim, in sunny Brisbane, Oz.

Mike M - 12 Aug 2006 08:51 GMT
Jim,

A strong dose of reality please.  Just what does your last post have to do
with spyware?  Paranoia has its place and that's not in this newsgroup.
Let me answer my own question.  The MRU (Most recent used) lists you
mention have nothing to do with spyware unless you are worried about say
your children or your parents using your PC and discovering the files you
open.  Personally I find it extremely useful when using say Excel to use
the Last Used list to select and open a spreadsheet.  Likewise when using
WordPerfect and most other applications since it saves me having to locate
documents and similar that I use over and over again.  Remember that the
MRU lists are only accessible by someone using the PC and are there for
the benefit of the user.

If this all worries you then perhaps you really should follow my previous
suggestion and head for your local tropical forest and leave your PC and
the real world behind you.
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Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com

> Mike,
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> My question is, what does any of this Spyware have to do
> with protecting intellectual property?
Jim Cladingboel - 13 Aug 2006 05:43 GMT
Mike,

If these are NOT Spyware items, transmitted to MS, then what are
they doing in an Adaware search?   Everything else Adaware lists is
intended for use by third parties presumably, in this case, MS.

Jim.

> Jim,
>
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> > My question is, what does any of this Spyware have to do
> > with protecting intellectual property?
Mart - 13 Aug 2006 07:58 GMT
Jim, excuse butinski - in the meantime, from Adaware's own Help pages :-

Search for negligible risk entries
Negligible risk entries are not considered to be a threat. They consist of
MRU (Most Recently Used items) lists which store information about the most
recently used items, for example files, search words and programs. The MRU
lists can be removed if the user desires.

But I'm sure Mike will soon respond in his own inimitable style <g>

Mart

> Mike,
>
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>> > My question is, what does any of this Spyware have to do
>> > with protecting intellectual property?
Mart - 13 Aug 2006 08:15 GMT
BTW - You can turn the 'negligible risks' option off if you don't want to
use it.

Mart

> Jim, excuse butinski - in the meantime, from Adaware's own Help pages :-
>
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>>> > My question is, what does any of this Spyware have to do
>>> > with protecting intellectual property?
Mike M - 13 Aug 2006 11:47 GMT
Jim,

If you really are going to get paranoid then remember that your computer
is watching and recording every keystroke that you make.  But of course if
it didn't do so how would it work?  As for your question think about it
and then if you are still upset about nothing switch off your computer and
go head for that jungle.  Just don't let the snakes and crocs get you
though.
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Mike Maltby
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> If these are NOT Spyware items, transmitted to MS, then what are
> they doing in an Adaware search?   Everything else Adaware lists is
> intended for use by third parties presumably, in this case, MS.
NormanM - 14 Aug 2006 00:41 GMT
>  If these are NOT Spyware items, transmitted to MS, then what are
> they doing in an Adaware search?   Everything else Adaware lists is
> intended for use by third parties presumably, in this case, MS.

MRU, or "Most Recently Used" items can be used by one person on a given
computer to see what other persons have been doing. If you have a shared
computer, you might want to clear MRU lists to foil noisy parties who
share the computer. I am the only user on my computer, though, so I
don't worry about those MRU lists.

What some consider "spyware", others might not. Backweb was (maybe still
is) used by HP for pushing ads and updates onto Pavilions. I turned it
off, but didn't remove it. I added it to the AdAware and Spybot S&D
ignore list because it isn't actually doing anything. Alexa "might" be
spyware under certain conditions, but I have hijacked it to my own ends.
Again, added to the ignore lists.

When you come to these groups seeking assistance, you will, hopefully,
pay attention. Some, especially MVPs, know enough about what is going on
to be quite helpful. There are plenty of trustworthy sorts in these
groups who will quickly jump in and correct a poster who is trying to
steer you the wrong way. Mike M is one of those. If he says, "Don't
worry", well; don't worry!

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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Jim Cladingboel - 14 Aug 2006 06:27 GMT
Thank you, one and all.

Paranoia cured - but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike.

Regards,  Jim.

> >  If these are NOT Spyware items, transmitted to MS, then what are
> > they doing in an Adaware search?   Everything else Adaware lists is
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> steer you the wrong way. Mike M is one of those. If he says, "Don't
> worry", well; don't worry!
Mike M - 14 Aug 2006 07:53 GMT
< but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike.

Can I join you Jim?  It might be a bit too hot for me (my younger daughter
spend a couple of weeks in Cairns and Port Douglas earlier this year) and
there's no way I'm going to the jungle either! <g>  A nice cool sea breeze
would do me nicely.  :-)
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> Thank you, one and all.
>
> Paranoia cured - but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike.
Joan Archer - 14 Aug 2006 12:35 GMT
You'd be in your elements here then Mike <g>
Joan

>< but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike.
>
> Can I join you Jim?  It might be a bit too hot for me (my younger
> daughter spend a couple of weeks in Cairns and Port Douglas earlier
> this year) and there's no way I'm going to the jungle either! <g>  A
> nice cool sea breeze would do me nicely.  :-)
Mike M - 14 Aug 2006 13:34 GMT
> You'd be in your elements here then Mike <g>

Correction.  A nice _warm_ sea breeze, not one of your freezing blasts
thank you Joan!
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Mike

Joan Archer - 14 Aug 2006 21:33 GMT
<lol> Oh OK enough said, mind you at least we still have some sunshine
with it as well and I'm still in my short sleeved t-shirts even if I do
get goose bumps at times <g>
Joan

> Correction.  A nice _warm_ sea breeze, not one of your freezing blasts
> thank you Joan!
Joan Archer - 14 Aug 2006 12:36 GMT
I've just noticed the time on your post, have you actually been to bed at
all yet <g>
Joan

> Can I join you Jim?  It might be a bit too hot for me (my younger
> daughter spend a couple of weeks in Cairns and Port Douglas earlier
> this year) and there's no way I'm going to the jungle either! <g>  A
> nice cool sea breeze would do me nicely.  :-)
Mike M - 14 Aug 2006 13:32 GMT
Hi Joan,

Yes been to bed!  I'm still not feeling too well and have been heading
bedwards well before midnight most nights in the last week.  The downside
being that I am getting up earlier and earlier each day.  :-(
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Mike

> I've just noticed the time on your post, have you actually been to
> bed at all yet <g>
Joan Archer - 14 Aug 2006 21:37 GMT
Sorry to hear you're still feeling under the weather, lets hope the
weather will soon be kinder to you, take care and I'm sending you an email
either tonight or tomorrow for you to look out for. <g>
Joan

> Hi Joan,
>
> Yes been to bed!  I'm still not feeling too well and have been heading
> bedwards well before midnight most nights in the last week.  The
> downside being that I am getting up earlier and earlier each day.  :-(
Mike M - 14 Aug 2006 22:04 GMT
Thanks Joan,

Have just got off the phone with Noel who seems to be OK.  Unfortunately I
had to hang up when I got a coughing fit.  I can't really believe it -
coughing fits and bronchial problems to add to my "normal" breathing
problems because of my obstructive sleep apnoea.  I suspect that another
early night calls but whether I will manage to get any sleep is open to
doubt.  Must go now - will try and keep my eyes open for your e-mail.

Cheers to both you and John,
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Mike

> Sorry to hear you're still feeling under the weather, lets hope the
> weather will soon be kinder to you, take care and I'm sending you an
> email either tonight or tomorrow for you to look out for. <g>
Jim Cladingboel - 15 Aug 2006 10:22 GMT
Well, Mike, you'd have to be prepared to put up with clear blue skies,
a temperature of about 23/25 (C), dropping to around 10 overnight.
Mind you, this is our winter (G).

As a bonus, prices here are generally about half of those I found in UK
last Sept/Oct.

Meantime, hope you are fit and well again very soon.

Jim.

> < but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike.
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> >
> > Paranoia cured - but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike.
Mike M - 15 Aug 2006 10:34 GMT
Jim,

It's the dropping to 10C overnight that attracts me unlike London where
for much of July there seemed to be little difference in temp between day
and night.  It's Queensland summers though that worry me. <g>  As for
clear blue skies we've had plenty of those recently although today it is
pretty dull and rather reflects how I'm feeling at the moment.
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Mike Maltby
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> Well, Mike, you'd have to be prepared to put up with clear blue skies,
> a temperature of about 23/25 (C), dropping to around 10 overnight.
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>
> Meantime, hope you are fit and well again very soon.
Jim Cladingboel - 16 Aug 2006 00:52 GMT
Mike,

You probably would not enjoy our summers.  Those temperatures for
winter are both increased by about 10 degrees before and after Christmas,
while humidity can reach 99% altho is mostly 60/70%.  Strangely, what
we really need now is rain as we are enduring the most severe drought
for at least the last 100 years.   "Sunny Brisbane" indeed!

Jim.

> Jim,
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> >
> > Meantime, hope you are fit and well again very soon.
 
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