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Microsoft Spyware in ME
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Jim Cladingboel - 12 Aug 2006 05:50 GMT Mike,
Using Adaware today, I took note of the following items found, some of which were duplicated :
Last application to use DirectX Last application to use Direct Draw Last application to use Direct 3D Last application to use Direct Input Last downloaded directory in IE List of addresses in IE Last play index loaded in WMP List of documents opened in MS Word List of files opened in MS Excel Last key accessed using Regedit List of recently opened programs List of recently saved files, by extension List of recent documents opened MRU list for items opened in Start | Run
My question is, what does any of this Spyware have to do with protecting intellectual property?
 Signature Jim, in sunny Brisbane, Oz.
Mike M - 12 Aug 2006 08:51 GMT Jim,
A strong dose of reality please. Just what does your last post have to do with spyware? Paranoia has its place and that's not in this newsgroup. Let me answer my own question. The MRU (Most recent used) lists you mention have nothing to do with spyware unless you are worried about say your children or your parents using your PC and discovering the files you open. Personally I find it extremely useful when using say Excel to use the Last Used list to select and open a spreadsheet. Likewise when using WordPerfect and most other applications since it saves me having to locate documents and similar that I use over and over again. Remember that the MRU lists are only accessible by someone using the PC and are there for the benefit of the user.
If this all worries you then perhaps you really should follow my previous suggestion and head for your local tropical forest and leave your PC and the real world behind you.
 Signature Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com
> Mike, > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > My question is, what does any of this Spyware have to do > with protecting intellectual property? Jim Cladingboel - 13 Aug 2006 05:43 GMT Mike,
If these are NOT Spyware items, transmitted to MS, then what are they doing in an Adaware search? Everything else Adaware lists is intended for use by third parties presumably, in this case, MS.
Jim.
> Jim, > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > My question is, what does any of this Spyware have to do > > with protecting intellectual property? Mart - 13 Aug 2006 07:58 GMT Jim, excuse butinski - in the meantime, from Adaware's own Help pages :-
Search for negligible risk entries Negligible risk entries are not considered to be a threat. They consist of MRU (Most Recently Used items) lists which store information about the most recently used items, for example files, search words and programs. The MRU lists can be removed if the user desires.
But I'm sure Mike will soon respond in his own inimitable style <g>
Mart
> Mike, > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >> > My question is, what does any of this Spyware have to do >> > with protecting intellectual property? Mart - 13 Aug 2006 08:15 GMT BTW - You can turn the 'negligible risks' option off if you don't want to use it.
Mart
> Jim, excuse butinski - in the meantime, from Adaware's own Help pages :- > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] >>> > My question is, what does any of this Spyware have to do >>> > with protecting intellectual property? Mike M - 13 Aug 2006 11:47 GMT Jim,
If you really are going to get paranoid then remember that your computer is watching and recording every keystroke that you make. But of course if it didn't do so how would it work? As for your question think about it and then if you are still upset about nothing switch off your computer and go head for that jungle. Just don't let the snakes and crocs get you though.
 Signature Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com
> If these are NOT Spyware items, transmitted to MS, then what are > they doing in an Adaware search? Everything else Adaware lists is > intended for use by third parties presumably, in this case, MS. NormanM - 14 Aug 2006 00:41 GMT > If these are NOT Spyware items, transmitted to MS, then what are > they doing in an Adaware search? Everything else Adaware lists is > intended for use by third parties presumably, in this case, MS. MRU, or "Most Recently Used" items can be used by one person on a given computer to see what other persons have been doing. If you have a shared computer, you might want to clear MRU lists to foil noisy parties who share the computer. I am the only user on my computer, though, so I don't worry about those MRU lists.
What some consider "spyware", others might not. Backweb was (maybe still is) used by HP for pushing ads and updates onto Pavilions. I turned it off, but didn't remove it. I added it to the AdAware and Spybot S&D ignore list because it isn't actually doing anything. Alexa "might" be spyware under certain conditions, but I have hijacked it to my own ends. Again, added to the ignore lists.
When you come to these groups seeking assistance, you will, hopefully, pay attention. Some, especially MVPs, know enough about what is going on to be quite helpful. There are plenty of trustworthy sorts in these groups who will quickly jump in and correct a poster who is trying to steer you the wrong way. Mike M is one of those. If he says, "Don't worry", well; don't worry!
 Signature Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
Jim Cladingboel - 14 Aug 2006 06:27 GMT Thank you, one and all.
Paranoia cured - but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike.
Regards, Jim.
> > If these are NOT Spyware items, transmitted to MS, then what are > > they doing in an Adaware search? Everything else Adaware lists is [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > steer you the wrong way. Mike M is one of those. If he says, "Don't > worry", well; don't worry! Mike M - 14 Aug 2006 07:53 GMT < but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike.
Can I join you Jim? It might be a bit too hot for me (my younger daughter spend a couple of weeks in Cairns and Port Douglas earlier this year) and there's no way I'm going to the jungle either! <g> A nice cool sea breeze would do me nicely. :-)
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> Thank you, one and all. > > Paranoia cured - but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike. Joan Archer - 14 Aug 2006 12:35 GMT You'd be in your elements here then Mike <g> Joan
>< but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike. > > Can I join you Jim? It might be a bit too hot for me (my younger > daughter spend a couple of weeks in Cairns and Port Douglas earlier > this year) and there's no way I'm going to the jungle either! <g> A > nice cool sea breeze would do me nicely. :-) Mike M - 14 Aug 2006 13:34 GMT > You'd be in your elements here then Mike <g> Correction. A nice _warm_ sea breeze, not one of your freezing blasts thank you Joan!
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Joan Archer - 14 Aug 2006 21:33 GMT <lol> Oh OK enough said, mind you at least we still have some sunshine with it as well and I'm still in my short sleeved t-shirts even if I do get goose bumps at times <g> Joan
> Correction. A nice _warm_ sea breeze, not one of your freezing blasts > thank you Joan! Joan Archer - 14 Aug 2006 12:36 GMT I've just noticed the time on your post, have you actually been to bed at all yet <g> Joan
> Can I join you Jim? It might be a bit too hot for me (my younger > daughter spend a couple of weeks in Cairns and Port Douglas earlier > this year) and there's no way I'm going to the jungle either! <g> A > nice cool sea breeze would do me nicely. :-) Mike M - 14 Aug 2006 13:32 GMT Hi Joan,
Yes been to bed! I'm still not feeling too well and have been heading bedwards well before midnight most nights in the last week. The downside being that I am getting up earlier and earlier each day. :-(
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> I've just noticed the time on your post, have you actually been to > bed at all yet <g> Joan Archer - 14 Aug 2006 21:37 GMT Sorry to hear you're still feeling under the weather, lets hope the weather will soon be kinder to you, take care and I'm sending you an email either tonight or tomorrow for you to look out for. <g> Joan
> Hi Joan, > > Yes been to bed! I'm still not feeling too well and have been heading > bedwards well before midnight most nights in the last week. The > downside being that I am getting up earlier and earlier each day. :-( Mike M - 14 Aug 2006 22:04 GMT Thanks Joan,
Have just got off the phone with Noel who seems to be OK. Unfortunately I had to hang up when I got a coughing fit. I can't really believe it - coughing fits and bronchial problems to add to my "normal" breathing problems because of my obstructive sleep apnoea. I suspect that another early night calls but whether I will manage to get any sleep is open to doubt. Must go now - will try and keep my eyes open for your e-mail.
Cheers to both you and John,
 Signature Mike
> Sorry to hear you're still feeling under the weather, lets hope the > weather will soon be kinder to you, take care and I'm sending you an > email either tonight or tomorrow for you to look out for. <g> Jim Cladingboel - 15 Aug 2006 10:22 GMT Well, Mike, you'd have to be prepared to put up with clear blue skies, a temperature of about 23/25 (C), dropping to around 10 overnight. Mind you, this is our winter (G).
As a bonus, prices here are generally about half of those I found in UK last Sept/Oct.
Meantime, hope you are fit and well again very soon.
Jim.
> < but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > Paranoia cured - but I will stay beside the sea thanks, Mike. Mike M - 15 Aug 2006 10:34 GMT Jim,
It's the dropping to 10C overnight that attracts me unlike London where for much of July there seemed to be little difference in temp between day and night. It's Queensland summers though that worry me. <g> As for clear blue skies we've had plenty of those recently although today it is pretty dull and rather reflects how I'm feeling at the moment.
 Signature Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com
> Well, Mike, you'd have to be prepared to put up with clear blue skies, > a temperature of about 23/25 (C), dropping to around 10 overnight. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Meantime, hope you are fit and well again very soon. Jim Cladingboel - 16 Aug 2006 00:52 GMT Mike,
You probably would not enjoy our summers. Those temperatures for winter are both increased by about 10 degrees before and after Christmas, while humidity can reach 99% altho is mostly 60/70%. Strangely, what we really need now is rain as we are enduring the most severe drought for at least the last 100 years. "Sunny Brisbane" indeed!
Jim.
> Jim, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > Meantime, hope you are fit and well again very soon.
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