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janjan - 24 Aug 2007 23:44 GMT
I don't use my computer often.  When I tried to defrag and scan disk I keep
getting messge tried to start 10 times are there other programs working.  I
don't know how to check programs running in the background.  Can anyone help
with this issue?
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Mike M - 25 Aug 2007 00:04 GMT
Try running defrag in Safe Mode.  Running in Safe Mode means that many
background programs won't have been started and therefore should minimise
the writing to the hard drive which is interfering with the defrag.
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> I don't use my computer often.  When I tried to defrag and scan disk
> I keep getting messge tried to start 10 times are there other
> programs working.  I don't know how to check programs running in the
> background.  Can anyone help with this issue?
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janjan - 26 Aug 2007 00:26 GMT
Mike M

I just got a chance to try your suggestion and it worked perfectly...thanks
so much.  Since I'm not on the computer daily this was a great help as it is
so frustrating and so time consuming to find the answer to problems. I was
surprised to find out that Microsoft no longer supports ME. I guess that
shows how behind the times I am computerwise.  It is great to know that there
are people out in cyperspace that can help.  Again, your help is much
appreciated.
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> Try running defrag in Safe Mode.  Running in Safe Mode means that many
> background programs won't have been started and therefore should minimise
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> > programs working.  I don't know how to check programs running in the
> > background.  Can anyone help with this issue?
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Mike M - 26 Aug 2007 14:22 GMT
It's good to read that booting to Safe Mode was all that was necessary to
allow you to run defrag without too many restarts.

Don't forget that if you have any further problems with your system to
post details to one of these newsgroups and hopefully someone should be
able to help you.
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> I just got a chance to try your suggestion and it worked
> perfectly...thanks so much.  Since I'm not on the computer daily this
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> out in cyperspace that can help.  Again, your help is much
> appreciated.
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O.J. Newman - 26 Aug 2007 17:34 GMT
Hello:

In addition to Mike's suggestion to running Defrag in Safe Mode, there is a
freeware utility that accomplishes much the same thing by running Defrag (or
optionally Norton's or the Jkessel defrag utilities) and , again optionally,
Windows ScanDisk and Clean-up utilities as part of the Windows start-up
process. This has the same effect of running these utilities with less
writes to the hard drive and less interference with the running of these
utilities. Some people find this easier than booting to Safe Mode (which
always scrambles my Desktop icons).

The freeware ScanDefrag utility can be found at
http://www.blueorbsoft.com/scandefrag/ .

HTH,
O.J.

> Try running defrag in Safe Mode.  Running in Safe Mode means that many
> background programs won't have been started and therefore should minimise
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>> programs working.  I don't know how to check programs running in the
>> background.  Can anyone help with this issue?
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SUZYQ - 05 Jan 2008 19:52 GMT
HOW DO I RUN IN SAFE MODE? GIVE ME STEP BY STEP INST.,PLEASE. ALSO I TRIED TO
RUN A SCAN DISK,IT SAYS THERE IS A DISK UTITIY THAT HAS IT LOCKED, WHAT IS
THAT? CAN U HELP?

> Try running defrag in Safe Mode.  Running in Safe Mode means that many
> background programs won't have been started and therefore should minimise
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > programs working.  I don't know how to check programs running in the
> > background.  Can anyone help with this issue?
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Mart - 05 Jan 2008 20:29 GMT
How to boot into Safe Mode? - The 'Official' MS method is holding down or
'stabbing at' the Ctrl OR the F8 keys, BUT you do need to do this
IMMEDIATELY after you power up your PC and keep 'stabbing' at them until the
WinMe splash screen shows. You could also try the same, but using the Shift
key instead.

Another alternative is when your machine is running in Normal Mode. Run
msconfig.exe and on the General tab, select Advanced and check the 'Enable
Startup Menu' box.

Don't forget to uncheck the box when you've finished with it. Oh! - and
don't forget to turn your 'Caps Lock' off too.

Mart

> HOW DO I RUN IN SAFE MODE? GIVE ME STEP BY STEP INST.,PLEASE. ALSO I TRIED
> TO
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>> > programs working.  I don't know how to check programs running in the
>> > background.  Can anyone help with this issue?
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O.J. Newman - 09 Jan 2008 22:07 GMT
Hello:

Another option to running in safe mode to scan & defrag is to use a freeware
utility called ScanDefrag. This utility can be set to do a scan disk &
defrag upon rebooting the PC, thus preventing other utilities and Windows
processes from interfering. See: http://www.blueorbsoft.com/scandefrag/ .

HTH,
O.J.

> HOW DO I RUN IN SAFE MODE? GIVE ME STEP BY STEP INST.,PLEASE. ALSO I TRIED
> TO
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>> > programs working.  I don't know how to check programs running in the
>> > background.  Can anyone help with this issue?
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Gary S. Terhune - 25 Aug 2007 18:00 GMT
See Clean Boot -- What it is and why you need it
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

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>I don't use my computer often.  When I tried to defrag and scan disk I keep
> getting messge tried to start 10 times are there other programs working.
> I
> don't know how to check programs running in the background.  Can anyone
> help
> with this issue?
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Gary S. Terhune - 25 Aug 2007 18:08 GMT
My mistake, I forgot I was in a Windows ME group. Still the article applies
to Windows ME with one small addendum -- You don't want to disable System
Restore items in MSCONFIG. What those specific items are, well I forget the
exact names. Maybe someone else can fill you in.

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> See Clean Boot -- What it is and why you need it
> http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
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>> help
>> with this issue?
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Mike M - 25 Aug 2007 18:25 GMT
Running defrag in Safe Mode is normally all that is required.
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> My mistake, I forgot I was in a Windows ME group. Still the article
> applies to Windows ME with one small addendum -- You don't want to
> disable System Restore items in MSCONFIG. What those specific items
> are, well I forget the exact names. Maybe someone else can fill you
> in.
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Gary S. Terhune - 25 Aug 2007 18:30 GMT
Yeah, I just add a lot of info on cleanup, too. It's also useful for
cantankerous installs/uninstalls.

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> Running defrag in Safe Mode is normally all that is required.
>
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>> are, well I forget the exact names. Maybe someone else can fill you
>> in.
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