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Windows Forum / Windows Me / General Topics / August 2005Upgrade from 95 to 98 or ME?
Hello, group. Have an older Dell Dimension with 200 MHz processor (with MMX technology, if that scores me any additional points). OS is Windows 95 -- came pre-installed on the Dell when I bought it. I'd like to add this PC to my home network and use it for light duty work. Can I upgrade the OS to ME? My gut tell me to jump to 98 SE, but was told I could not upgrade to 98 SE unless I had already had 98, which I don't. Must I go 95 to 98 to 98 SE? Any advice would be appreciated. Joe Starin Joe You can go direct to 98SE without any problems - but I would not recommend ME on that system.  SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's Hello, group. Have an older Dell Dimension with 200 MHz processor (with MMX technology, if that scores me any additional points). OS is Windows 95 -- came pre-installed on the Dell when I bought it. I'd like to add this PC to my home network and use it for light duty work. Can I upgrade the OS to ME? My gut tell me to jump to 98 SE, but was told I could not upgrade to 98 SE unless I had already had 98, which I don't. Must I go 95 to 98 to 98 SE? Any advice would be appreciated. Joe Starin I would also recommend 98SE. A great system that everybody has had at some time or another that also runs OK on older systems. There is no need to go to ME. Get 98SE and be happy not frustated! Cheers Lenny > Joe > You can go direct to 98SE without any problems - but I would not recommend [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > upgrade to 98 SE unless I had already had 98, which I don't. Must I go 95 > to 98 to 98 SE? Any advice would be appreciated. Joe Starin >Hello, group. Have an older Dell Dimension with 200 MHz processor (with MMX technology, if that scores me any additional points). OS is Windows 95 -- came pre-installed on the Dell when I bought it. I'd like to add this PC to my home network and use it for light duty work. Can I upgrade the OS to ME? My gut tell me to jump to 98 SE, but was told I could not upgrade to 98 SE unless I had already had 98, which I don't. Must I go 95 to 98 to 98 SE? Any advice would be appreciated. Joe Starin How much RAM does the system have? In order to get reasonable performance from Windows 98 SE on that hardware you should have at least 64 mb of RAM, and perhaps more depending on the applications that you are going to run. Your hardware might be okay for running Windows Me if you have at least 128 mb of RAM, but I would prefer Windows 98 on that hardware because Windows Me can be problematic at times. You should also check the Dell website for driver updates and other patches for your specific model number and whichever version of Windows you do decide to upgrade to. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP http://aumha.org/alex.htm Thanks Noel, Lenny and Ron for your comments. I became concerned about jumping to SE because someone selling SE on eBay said you needed to have 98 installed before you can upgrade to SE. Maybe he meant I needed to have 98 before I could use a 98 SE UPGRADE. Anyway, I have a whopping 64MB of RAM, but it sounds like that would be sufficient for light-duty work running 98 SE. I'm sold. Thanks. Joe Starin > >Hello, group. Have an older Dell Dimension with 200 MHz processor (with MMX technology, if that scores me any additional points). OS is Windows 95 -- came pre-installed on the Dell when I bought it. I'd like to add this PC to my home network and use it for light duty work. Can I upgrade the OS to ME? My gut tell me to jump to 98 SE, but was told I could not upgrade to 98 SE unless I had already had 98, which I don't. Must I go 95 to 98 to 98 SE? Any advice would be appreciated. Joe Starin > How much RAM does the system have? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Joe, That may be. There are several versions of win98SE floating around. There was an update version (cheapest) which could only be used to update an exisitng win98 installation. Then there is the retail upgrade version which requires proof of a qualifying product for a clean install. It does not require that a previous operating system be installed but will want to see a win95/win98/or dos 3.1 disk during install. Then there is the full retail version which can be used for an upgrade or clean install. Then last there is the OEM version which was designed for a clean install and may cause problems if being used for an upgrade. SignatureJon Hildrum DTS MVP Jon_Hildrum@msn.com www.hildrum.com > Thanks Noel, Lenny and Ron for your comments. I became concerned about > jumping to SE because someone selling SE on eBay said you needed to have [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada There was also an OEM Upgrade version (I have one!) SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Joe, > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >>> >>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Not sure if anyone is still following this thread, but I've purchased a Windows 98 SE upgrade OS (unopened) to allow my old Dell Dimension (described below) to be hooked to my wireless network as a light-duty backup PC. On this Dell, I have a 2GB FAT C drive with 518MB free and a 1GB FAT D drive with 720MB free. Shall I install Windows on the C or D? (Windows 95 is on the C drive.) Do I look good to go? Please don't tell me that I need to reformat anything <grin>. Thanks again, everyone, for your invaluable guidance. (And yes, the hard drive numbers are accurate.) Joe Starin > There was also an OEM Upgrade version (I have one!) > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > >>> > >>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Oy! Those numbers are horrendous!! I would think VERY seriously about flattening the driver (with a steam-roller!) or at least converting it to a single drive after backing up your data. You should just about have enough room to install the 98SE on the C: drive - but possibly only if you refuse the offer to backup the old system. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Not sure if anyone is still following this thread, but I've purchased a > Windows 98 SE upgrade OS (unopened) to allow my old Dell Dimension [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] >> >>> >> >>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Noel, maybe I'm wasting my time (and money) trying to bring this PC into the network. It sounds like I should resell the Windows 98SE SW via eBay (paid $37 US dollars), return the wireless card ($29 US dollars) and wait until I can afford a new notebook/desktop for my business. Plus, as you said, I'd need to backup my data and reformat (more time and money -- no CD burner on the 95). I'm losing interest in this project. Maybe I should continue to use the old backup Dell for writing only (my profession) and use a floppy to shuffle docs between my ME and 95 PCs. Thanks for your replies, as always. Joe Starin > Oy! > Those numbers are horrendous!! [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > >> >>> > >> >>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada There's no reason why you shouldn't back stuff up over the network....oh - wireless doesn't work in '95, does it?? Any chance you can wire it in for the moment? You should be able to get 10GB drives for pennies - which would give you more than enough room for manoeuvre. SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Noel, maybe I'm wasting my time (and money) trying to bring this PC into > the [quoted text clipped - 116 lines] >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada > Not sure if anyone is still following this thread, but I've purchased a > Windows 98 SE upgrade OS (unopened) to allow my old Dell Dimension [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > reformat anything <grin>. Thanks again, everyone, for your invaluable > guidance. (And yes, the hard drive numbers are accurate.) Joe Starin 'twere me, I'd reformat everything and install fresh after finding out how to install a 98 Upgrade fresh of course, and getting all the relevant Dell Dimension drivers off the net. A couple hours work now will save you more than that further on down the line. And considering it's an occasional use system, I'd use 98-Lite from www.pclite.com with the 95 browser option. Does that help ? Rick >>There was also an OEM Upgrade version (I have one!) >> [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] >>>>> >>>>>Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Good suggestions, Noel and Rick. According to the manufacturer, my wireless router will not work with Windows 95, even if hard wired -- hence my need to upgrade the OS. Plus the tech specs ask for a minimum 256MHz processor, and this backup PC has a 200MHz with MMX technology. Anyway, I like the idea of adding a new and very cheap hard drive, then starting fresh with Windows 98SE. I just hope I'm not throwing good money after bad, trying to squeeze this poor PC. It does run well, tho.... Regards, Joe Starin > > Not sure if anyone is still following this thread, but I've purchased a > > Windows 98 SE upgrade OS (unopened) to allow my old Dell Dimension [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > >>>>> > >>>>>Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Good Luck!! SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Good suggestions, Noel and Rick. According to the manufacturer, my > wireless [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Jon, or anyone else if you're still checking this thread, I have one final question: If I replace my monster 3GB hard drive with a bigger one and start clean with Windows 98SE, which version should I use? I have an actual Microsoft Windows 95 disc that came with my old Dell that says "For distribution only with a new PC." Would this allow me to legally use 98SE upgrade SW, inserting the 95 CD, if asked? I have purchased via eBay an unopened 98SE upgrade, but I think 95 would already have to be installed on the new HD for this upgrade to work -- and I'd rather just do a clean install of 98SE on the new HD. Am I being clear? Confusion is slowly creeping in on this end. Thanks.... Joe Starin > Joe, > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >> > >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Joe use the Win 98SE disk (and the floppy!) to begin the install At some point it will ask for a qualifying disk - which is where your Win95 disk comes into play - insert that, and just follow your nose...... SignatureNoel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's > Jon, or anyone else if you're still checking this thread, I have one final > question: [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >> >> >> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Easier than I thought, Noel. Good news. A hearty thank you from the state of Ohio, USA. Joe Starin > Joe > use the Win 98SE disk (and the floppy!) to begin the install [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > >> >> > >> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada |
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